OLEG VS PETER

I say Oleg wins by points.

But there could be a 12th round Rahmanian stoppage of an exhausted and dispirited Peter stumbling around the ring half out of his wits... ;D


In any case: to good and exciting fighters meeting each other!!!! Both of them tough guys who will give their all. It could be an even one. I just cant see what Peter brings to the table that Maskaev doesnt also have (plus a slight edge like height, stamina and so on)

So much at stake for both of them!

For Peter its obviously all he has ever dreamt of. For Oleg a win will redeem him completely from his checkered past.

How do you rate:

stamina?
grit? willpower?
technique?
speed?
power?

just look at this!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4KK7UKrRdmw

so sloppy. Peter cant hit a clean punch. Easy victim for Oleg.

i havent seen the klitschko peter fight.

Did he hit sharper there? What Ive seen he doesnt hit clean and accurate.
is the peter kltischko fight anywhere to be seen? ??? 8)

hahahahaha ;D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlYaX0mtDh8


look at Sam P hitting like a girl! at 05 sec left, man this guy is hopeless.

Peter looked terrible against Hawkins. Panama Lewis collapsed in the third round I think it was and that absolutely threw Peter off. Panama, as much shit as he takes and deservingly so, is a mentor to Peter and has really taught him a lot. So when that happened, he tried to swing for the fences to end it in 1 but Hawkins is to crafty. Peter didn't even do post fight interviews until he was told Panama was fine.

Look at the Toney fights if you want to see Peter at his best. Because he's improved a ton since Klitschko. I know the popular pick is Peter KO, but even I a huge fan of Peter have to look at Maskaev to see just how much he gets hit. But right now, it's Peter KO ;D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pT8bADqPJk


Imagine Oleg getting to hit at will like that... ;D

Ive changed my mind, Peter has zero chance.

At least he wasn't getting sparked out in any of those videos. Wouldn't be very hard to find a video of that sort of Maskaev now would it?

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Originally Posted by amat

Peter looked terrible against Hawkins. Panama Lewis collapsed in the third round I think it was and that absolutely threw Peter off. Panama, as much S*** as he takes and deservingly so, is a mentor to Peter and has really taught him a lot. So when that happened, he tried to swing for the fences to end it in 1 but Hawkins is to crafty. Peter didn't even do post fight interviews until he was told Panama was fine.

Look at the Toney fights if you want to see Peter at his best. Because he's improved a ton since Klitschko. I know the popular pick is Peter KO, but even I a huge fan of Peter have to look at Maskaev to see just how much he gets hit. But right now, it's Peter KO ;D

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Thanks that might explain somethings. It also makes you wonder how mentally professional he is. You are right that the last Toney fight he looked better. Still, his aim was off, the punches were mostly off target. Tony is of course defensively very strong. But still, I feel that Peter would have lost if Toney had had the energy to hit 20% more punches.

I dont dislike Peter, its just that he seems to lack accuracy and sharpness. He also does not seem so hard to hit.

You're pretty much spot on in the last line. But his game isn't based on accuracy and sharpness. He has raw power, and he knows when to throw the right punch. His jab isn't much but it's a stiff one and it sets his right up fairly well. Power in all punches, I think he gives EVERYONE trouble. I think the only person who beats him at this point is Wlad.

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At least he wasn't getting sparked out in any of those videos. Wouldn't be very hard to find a video of that sort of Maskaev now would it?

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He was KOd by McCall, no shame in that, David Tua no shame in that but it was in the 11th and his own stupid mistake. Kirk Johnson, Whitacker and Sanders.

So you are right he can be KOd. Maskaev was KOd last time 5 years ago!

However, I think he has learnt alot. And Peter has failed to stop many people much less tough!!

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You're pretty much spot on in the last line. But his game isn't based on accuracy and sharpness. He has raw power, and he knows when to throw the right punch. His jab isn't much but it's a stiff one and it sets his right up fairly well. Power in all punches, I think he gives EVERYONE trouble. I think the only person who beats him at this point is Wlad.

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WOW! I cant believe that you and I have such different views. I grant you that he may be able to KO anyone, but he also seems capable of losing many fights due to his lack of precision. i mean jovo pudar went the distance, and shufford and hawkins... its not like he is Vitali or something.

I think that an eastern european like Oleg or Sultan throwing hard accurate punches may simply win every round.

Maskaev pumping jab, then working in the straight right. hm.

How many top level fighters has Peter been able to stop?

Oleg by UD.

The Big O is on a very good strike. I was very impressed by the way he went to Germany and outboxed SSS. None has done it before in such an impressive way.

I think Peter's abillity to KO people is very overrated. His power is not overrated but he is so clumsy and almost never hits his opponent with a clean punch.

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Oleg by UD.

The Big O is on a very good strike. I was very impressed by the way he went to Germany and outboxed SSS. None has done it before in such an impressive way.

I think Peter's abillity to KO people is very overrated. His power is not overrated but he is so clumsy and almost never hits his opponent with a clean punch.

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Ok that's how I see it too. I didnt know he outboxed Sinan Sam that is very impressive. I bet on Oleg to beat Rahman based on that fact. I said I would never post here again if Maskaev didnt beat Rahman. Well that settles it. Maskaev can box and win every round. As a bonus he is also a puncher. Peter is not ready.

Peter's last combination on Toney looked so shoeshine phony ::** The only improvement he showed was a better jab.

He won, but he didn't change as much.

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Peter's last combination on Toney looked so shoeshine phony ::** The only improvement he showed was a better jab.

He won, but he didn't change as much.

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jabbing against a much taller Maskaev...is that a good idea?

Peter relies on his ability to take a hit and so therefore he tends to want to trade licks well when that fails he starts throwing wild swings.It looks like he did so well in the second fight with Toney.Well in the first fight he learned that Toney did not have the power to knock him out so he let his hands fly without fear in second fight and that made him look good.Now add a fighter with a good chin,power and skills, with that combination a win will be more elusive . IMHO Peter may be at the pinnacle of his career. ;)

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How many top level fighters has Peter been able to stop?

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None - the same pure "Jeff Lacymania over again" :-\

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Peter relies on his ability to take a hit and so therefore he tends to want to trade licks well when that fails he starts throwing wild swings.It looks like he did so well in the second fight with Toney.Well in the first fight he learned that Toney did not have the power to knock him out so he let his hands fly without fear in second fight and that made him look good.Now add a fighter with a good chin,power and skills, with that combination a win will be more elusive . IMHO Peter may be at the pinnacle of his career. ;)

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Yes, pinnacle I would say too. Its too late for him to learn how to box, and people will figure him out. I can't see how Maskaev could have much problem with him.

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How many top level fighters has Peter been able to stop?

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None - the same pure "Jeff Lacymania over again" :-\

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Thanks now I see. Because its obvious to me that Peter has less of everything (but perhaps chin) that Oleg has.
These are blind Peter fans, who cannot see how laughably crude this guy is.

I'm going with Oleg by decision. He is a much smarter boxer than people give him credit for. If Peter doesn't KO him in the first 2 rounds it's gonna The Big 'O' all night.

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I'm going with Oleg by decision. He is a much smarter boxer than people give him credit for. If Peter doesn't KO him in the first 2 rounds it's gonna The Big 'O' all night.

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Peter obviously has no tools to handle Vitali. I didnt see the wlad fight but I would expect, and have heard, that Peter couldnt find the range, and his aim is so way off that he must have lost big on points. THe same would be the case with Vitali.

Maskaev Vitali will be a war between two well schooled tough guys. OLEG knows Vitali so well style wise he is not scared of him. I think that he will last atleast as long as Corrie Sanders or better.

The biggest question is wether or not Maskayev's 38 year old legs,can keep pace with Peter's 26 year old ones

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The biggest question is wether or not Maskayev's 38 year old legs,can keep pace with Peter's 26 year old ones

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Do you think Peter has good pace in his legs?

You know, Oleg has gone 12 rounds lately against younger guys and at the end of fights his movement was still ok.

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The biggest question is wether or not Maskayev's 38 year old legs,can keep pace with Peter's 26 year old ones

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Do you think Peter has good pace in his legs?

You know, Oleg has gone 12 rounds lately against younger guys and at the end of fights his movement was still ok.

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Depends on what his trainers want him to do
Me personally if he was my guy,Id have him fighting away to force Maskayev,make him chase,and step to the sides to set up those big booming hooks of his

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The biggest question is wether or not Maskayev's 38 year old legs,can keep pace with Peter's 26 year old ones

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Do you think Peter has good pace in his legs?

You know, Oleg has gone 12 rounds lately against younger guys and at the end of fights his movement was still ok.

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Depends on what his trainers want him to do
Me personally if he was my guy,Id have him fighting away to force Maskayev,make him chase,and step to the sides to set up those big booming hooks of his

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So you mean that you want Peter to back up and have Oleg following him? But what about the distance; Oleg has better reach is that not a problem, and doesnt backing take away from the power?

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The biggest question is wether or not Maskayev's 38 year old legs,can keep pace with Peter's 26 year old ones

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Do you think Peter has good pace in his legs?

You know, Oleg has gone 12 rounds lately against younger guys and at the end of fights his movement was still ok.

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Depends on what his trainers want him to do
Me personally if he was my guy,Id have him fighting away to force Maskayev,make him chase,and step to the sides to set up those big booming hooks of his

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So you mean that you want Peter to back up and have Oleg following him? But what about the distance; Oleg has better reach is that not a problem, and doesnt backing take away from the power?

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Naw you never want to go straight back
You want to step to your sides,not only does that get your hips moving in to a power shot,and alot of time you can creak a guy open like that.
His best punches are those booming hooks he throws,and it keeps Oleg constantly having to follow him

I voted Peter by late TKO, with Samuels new found offense I think hes improved vastly and I think he would stop the older, slower Maskaev.

Oleg may die in the ring.

i like both guys but peter should win, but if vitaly is next...peter isn't keeping that title for long vitaly will take it from him right away.