Mayweather - Oscar ,anyone else not care ?

Lets get one thing straight this is not a superfight!!!

Duran - Sugar Ray was a superfight this is an intresting match up between an 35year old Semi retired hall of famer and the Speedy Gonzales of boxing !!

Floyd Mayweather has never paid his dues at Welterweight or Lightwelter and now gets the slice of the pie at Lightmiddle .

Oscar on the other hand has paid his dues but lets face it he's been in hibernation for the last 3 years his heart left boxing right after the Tito robbery and never really returned !!

He was beat by Sturm ( unofficially) and served himself up against Hopkins and never really shown any intrest in the Lightmiddleweights

So why does this fight meet the criteria of a Superfight in so many peoples eyes ?

One word .....HYPE .

The fight hinges on what De La Hoyas got left absolutley nothing else matters , Mayweather the biggest hyped fighter of the Millenium will not show great counter punching skills or a great power or a big heart and he will never dig deep he will do what he always does , box to a plan and stop the other guy working !!!

Stand off flashy combinations with no substance might be enough to impress the Johnny Come Latelys of the boxing world but it doesnt impress ME.

Mayweather the showout King who fought nothing but shit in the last 6 years is completely undeserving of this fight !!!

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Lets get one thing straight this is not a superfight!!!

Duran - Sugar Ray was a superfight this is an intresting match up between an 35year old Semi retired hall of famer and the Speedy Gonzales of boxing !!

Floyd Mayweather has never paid his dues at Welterweight or Lightwelter and now gets the slice of the pie at Lightmiddle .

Oscar on the other hand has paid his dues but lets face it he's been in hibernation for the last 3 years his heart left boxing right after the Tito robbery and never really returned !!

He was beat by Sturm ( unofficially) and served himself up against Hopkins and never really shown any intrest in the Lightmiddleweights

So why does this fight meet the criteria of a Superfight in so many peoples eyes ?

One word .....HYPE .

The fight hinges on what De La Hoyas got left absolutley nothing else matters , Mayweather the biggest hyped fighter of the Millenium will not show great counter punching skills or a great power or a big heart and he will never dig deep he will do what he always does , box to a plan and stop the other guy working !!!

Stand off flashy combinations with no substance might be enough to impress the Johnny Come Latelys of the boxing world but it doesnt impress ME.

Mayweather the showout King who fought nothing but shit in the last 6 years is completely undeserving of this fight !!!

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Take it you are not going to watch it then fella?

Ill watch it but the pragmatic sense of reality knows that this fight will not live up expectation and id rather go out and enjoy myself .

Porky , these fights rarely live upto expectation and anything with Mayweather the original Smoke and Mirrors kid is not worth a bucket of fermented Horse Milk .

Fair play to Oscar but he is well past it , Mayorga got bashed to live but remember Mayorga-Tito ?

Same template used by Oscar look good against Mayorga used by Tito and you saw what little Tito had Left against WW .

He couldnt have been shorter on Ideas .

Oscar carried Boxing on his shoulders for 10 years i begrudge him nothing .

reckon you might be in the minority on this one ;)

My above points are valid though Fenster .

I must say... other than the reference to the "Tito robbery"..... this is the first thread of yours I'm inclined to agree with. Very good points.

Its a fight I will of course watch, but im not that excited by it. This is perhaps because im not a huge PBF or DLH fan....

It isnt a super fight on the level of super fights of yesteryear, that is very obvious

Im not sure the styles will gel very well -

more interested than excited if that makes sense?

Then again, come fight night i'm sure we shall all be buzzing ! :laugh:

If you are looking for a battle of two (2) fighters exchanging big punches like Trinidad-Vargas, Morales-Barrera, Morales-Pacman, Ward-Gatti, Carbajal-Gonzalez, this might not be the fight. I think we are going to see a DLH probably chasing Floyd who will be trying to pass DLH punches and counter punch. Anything can happen, but it should be more of a tactical fight. But, if you are a boxing fan try to watch it. If you don't like to pay for this type of technical fights (in theory) then, may try to save your $$$ visiting a neighbor the night of the fight who paid for it. ;D

I don't get you Swashbuckling Gordy,
I mean the title of your thread states:
"Mayweather - Oscar ,anyone else not care?"
but then you say:

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Ill watch it but the pragmatic sense of reality knows that this fight will not live up expectation

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id rather go out and enjoy myself .

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Then my good man I suggest you do just that and go out and enjoy! yourself that night.

I see your points and what your saying but you contradict yourself cause you say you don't care and you rather go out BUT your gonna tune in to watch.

The only fight it might be compared to is..
ODLH vs Sweat Pea.

I don't know.

I think it will more hype than anything else.

Floyd will leave a lot to be desired.

I can see people booing his azz again and leaving.

I don't remember any fight as bad as the Baldo fight. I mean people booing and leaving a fight at the peak of Floyd's career? Un heard of. No one walked out on Ray Leonard's prime time fights except Roberto Duran.

If Floyd does not do well in this fight, he can kiss his so called legacy good bye. He will not be able to retire with all the hungry Welters waiting for his punk azz. He will be mocked and criticized for many years to come.

Its the best fighter in the game against the biggest draw in the game - who is still one hell of a fighter. Doesn't live up to the superfights of yesteryears, but it will still be a very intriguing fight for anyone who is a boxing fan. I understand your points, but to go so far as to say you don't care is bullshit and you know it.

Well,as an event,I think it looks awesome. I mean the whole will he,won't he with Floyd senior being in Oscar's corner etc and the touring,all the smack talk. But as a fight,I don't see it living up to the hype,although for the sake of boxing,I hope it does.

I hope we see an exciting fight because SO MANY people will be watching,it could attract more fans to boxing.If it's boring,fans(casual ones_) may think twice about watching boxing and may look into alternatives like mma etc.

name me a fight this year u want to see more

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Calzaghe VS Kessler

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Swash Buckling Gordy VS ProBoxer18 :D :boxing2:
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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Lets get one thing straight this is not a superfight!!!

Duran - Sugar Ray was a superfight this is an intresting match up between an 35year old Semi retired hall of famer and the Speedy Gonzales of boxing !!

Floyd Mayweather has never paid his dues at Welterweight or Lightwelter and now gets the slice of the pie at Lightmiddle .

Oscar on the other hand has paid his dues but lets face it he's been in hibernation for the last 3 years his heart left boxing right after the Tito robbery and never really returned !!

He was beat by Sturm ( unofficially) and served himself up against Hopkins and never really shown any intrest in the Lightmiddleweights

So why does this fight meet the criteria of a Superfight in so many peoples eyes ?

One word .....HYPE .

The fight hinges on what De La Hoyas got left absolutley nothing else matters , Mayweather the biggest hyped fighter of the Millenium will not show great counter punching skills or a great power or a big heart and he will never dig deep he will do what he always does , box to a plan and stop the other guy working !!!

Stand off flashy combinations with no substance might be enough to impress the Johnny Come Latelys of the boxing world but it doesnt impress ME.

Mayweather the showout King who fought nothing but S*** in the last 6 years is completely undeserving of this fight !!!

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:appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: CC..... and if we are in the minority then that that just means we're seeing things more clearly than most.

I also think this fight is vastly overhyped. Floyd has the opportunity to prove himself against good young fighters and yet he opts to fight a older version of DLH that is a just a dangerous question mark.

I'm a Tito fan and like all the other Tito fans went crazy when he beat Mayorga down. We all know what happened to him against Winky. All DLH has done in the last 3 years is beat a guy who just recently had his manhood taken away in the ring in his previous fight by Tito and sit on his title for exactly a year.

If Floyd wasnt so dominant....I'm sure you all would be thrilled to see it.

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I don't get you Swashbuckling Gordy,
I mean the title of your thread states:
"Mayweather - Oscar ,anyone else not care?"
but then you say:

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Ill watch it but the pragmatic sense of reality knows that this fight will not live up expectation

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followed by:

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

id rather go out and enjoy myself .

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Then my good man I suggest you do just that and go out and enjoy! yourself that night.

I see your points and what your saying but you contradict yourself cause you say you don't care and you rather go out BUT your gonna tune in to watch.

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I dont understand what you mean for a single second !!!

If i said i'd go out tonight but id rather have Keeley Hazel whilst watching pop idols sit on my face would you understand then ?


Contradicting myself ? Not in any sense of the English Language as i know it am i contradicting myself !

I could always catch the re run in the afternoon so i could go out and still watch the fight .

Nothing was definitive

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Calzaghe VS Kessler

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Nicely put :coolclick:

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Calzaghe VS Kessler

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Nicely put :coolclick:

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CC Back at ya....I origionally wrote Swashbuckling Gordy VS ProBoxer18 but changed it lol....Both were on stupid tirades on the boards when I poted it....Calzaghe VS Kessler right now is the fight that interest me most though

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Its the best fighter in the game against the biggest draw in the game - who is still one hell of a fighter. Doesn't live up to the superfights of yesteryears, but it will still be a very intriguing fight for anyone who is a boxing fan. I understand your points, but to go so far as to say you don't care is bullshit and you know it.

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Best fighter? Not so sure about that, but definitely the holder of the title for best orchestrated list of beatable fighters . If this is PBF's last fight then I assume his book will follow" The Idiot's Boxing Guide to Creating An Undefeated Record & Fame While Staying Out of Harms Way. The problem is that ODLH may ruin the rough draft!

It has all the makings of a bore snore. PBF in-and-out and ODLH stalking and frustrated. ZZZZZzzzz.....____________________________-

It's one thing to think that this fight is overhyped, because that could always end up being true.

But if you "don't care," then you're obviously not a real boxing fan. If you're a true a fan of the sport, then you always care when the fighter recognized as #1 PFP gets in the ring. Doesn't mean you have to root for him, but you at the very least care about whether he wins or loses.

I actually compare this fight a lot to DLH - Trinidad. It is an enormously hyped fight that will end up being a very much underwhelming tactical battle with possibly a controversial close decision.

That said, DLH - Trinidad had me 20 times more exited and hyped.

It is also ironic that this time it will be DLH who will be the stalker...

All in all this will be a very intriguing fight and I can't wait to see it.

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It's one thing to think that this fight is overhyped, because that could always end up being true.
But if you "don't care," then you're obviously not a real boxing fan. If you're a true a fan of the sport, then you always care when the fighter recognized as #1 PFP gets in the ring. Doesn't mean you have to root for him, but you at the very least care about whether he wins or loses.

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CC#156, SweetPea
Well said....
I mean I care about a fight even if they are some obscure fighters.... If it's boxing and it's going on/happening I'm interested....
Add the names ODLH & PBF forget it I'm intrigued....
To each is own though....
In every major fight you always have people wanting to be the outcasts/different so IF the fight goes that way they can say I told you so....
Does the name 'Starr' mean anything to anyone...
For years she always rows against the current trying ever so hard to predict how fights would turn out....
Anywho!!

I'll watch it but it still will be a tactical bore.

If you dont care,dont watch...its that simple.It sounds like people just want to see a KO...I'd suggest "Street Brawls" or watching a Kimbo fight.

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a made fight

why do people hate on PBF for having great boxing skills. why brawl and take punishment if you don't have too.

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Its the best fighter in the game against the biggest draw in the game - who is still one hell of a fighter. Doesn't live up to the superfights of yesteryears, but it will still be a very intriguing fight for anyone who is a boxing fan. I understand your points, but to go so far as to say you don't care is bullshit and you know it.

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Best fighter? Not so sure about that, but definitely the holder of the title for best orchestrated list of beatable fighters . If this is PBF's last fight then I assume his book will follow" The Idiot's Boxing Guide to Creating An Undefeated Record & Fame While Staying Out of Harms Way. The problem is that ODLH may ruin the rough draft!

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:coolclick: Nice Post

If he's not the best...then who is?

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why do people hate on PBF for having great boxing skills. why brawl and take punishment if you don't have too.

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His skill level / style is not the principle of suggestion but the fact that he has applied it to average competition. It's like being the Valor Victorian student at a continuation high school !

If his level up opposition is average(C+)...then all of those other welters must be at D-.Except Mosley.

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If he's not the best...then who is?

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nnoone wants to respond because therse no answer ........ roy WAS not no more and i want to know why noone givs hopkins crap for nott fighting noone cuz he only fought a few top notch
fighters

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If he's not the best...then who is?

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nnoone wants to respond because therse no answer ........ roy WAS not no more and i want to know why noone givs hopkins crap for nott fighting noone cuz he only fought a few top notch
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Actually until his Education of Felix Trinindad Hopkins was one of the least appreciated Champions out there

^^^^^^^^ trinadad was only one guy

phenom what part of Florida are you in?

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phenom what part of Florida are you in?

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hollywood, its between ft. lauderdale and miami

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If he's not the best...then who is?

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Simply put Olympian904 there is no best at the current moment. One does not have to exist if no one rises above the rest. I have read many posts in here from Sweetpea, CutMeMick , Gamo , you, etc and you guys have more competitive battles than PBF. I ask if there are 100 ugly women does one have to be distinguished as the prettiest?