Don't Forget This Isin't The Same Oscar Folks....

2006-05-06 153½ Ricardo Mayorga 153½ 28-5-1
MGM Grand Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, NV, USA W TKO 6 12
~ Time: 1:25 | Referee: Jay Nady | Judge: Duane Ford | Judge: Paul Smith | Judge: Guido Cavalleri ~
~ WBC Light Middleweight Title ~
Mayorga down once in the 1st rd & twice in the 6th.

2004-09-18 155 Bernard Hopkins 156 44-2-1
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA L KO 9 12
~ Time: 1:38 | Referee: Kenny Bayless | Judge: Dave Moretti 73-79 | Judge: Paul Smith 74-78 | Judge: Keith MacDonald 77-75 ~
~ WBA Middleweight Title ~
~ WBC Middleweight Title ~
~ IBF Middleweight Title ~
~ WBO Middleweight Title ~

2004-06-05 160 Felix Sturm 160 20-0-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA W UD 12 12
~ Referee: Vic Drakulich | Judge: Mike Glienna 115-113 | Judge: Paul Smith 115-113 | Judge: Dave Moretti 115-113 ~
~ WBO Middleweight Title ~

2003-09-13 154 Shane Mosley 154 38-2-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA L UD 12 12
~ Referee: Joe Cortez | Judge: Anek Hongtongkam 113-115 | Judge: Duane Ford 113-115 | Judge: Stanley Christodoulou 113-115 ~
~ WBC Light Middleweight Title ~
~ WBA Light Middleweight Title ~
IBA Light Middleweight Title

Alot of people are reliving Delahoya's glory days which he hasnt had a noticeable or significant win since he fought Fernando Vargas 2002-09-14 which is almost 5 years ago and Hasn't had a top level fight since Shane Mosely back in 2003 which is about 4 years ago... Since then he was gifted the Strum fight, stopped by Hopkins and KO'd a shot Mayorga who stands in front of you leads with his chin and has 0 defense...

Again father time ain't skipping over Delahoya, I don't care how charismatic he is ;D but seriously guys Oscar hasn't been Stellar since Vargas, lets not get all nostalgic and think that the former Delahoya is fighting the current Mayweather... Sadly its not the case.. Floyd is firing on all cylinders is just reaching his prime, is the best pure boxer and skilled technician offensively and is top 4 Defensively along with Hopkins,Wright and Toney...

The punchstats in Mayweather fights are always overwhelming in his favor for the most part, but his opponents percentages are anemic... This fight wont be any different IMO ;)

but if DLH catches him with a good combo


thats the exciting part

what could happen

can floyd take a full oscar whack ???

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

Floyd fighting another man who is past his prime?
No!?
Not Floyd!
Tell me this is not so!

For reals though, what else is new?

Tell that chump Floyd to get his punk azz back down to the Welter Weight Division where the Prime Rib is.

Floyd Duck Feather Jr.

Quack! Quack!

I see your points JT and you have SOME valid ones.... The SSM II fight is a gimmie we all know what went down....

Now I'll simply ask the same question about PBF whats his last significant fight that he won that ment something?

I say it's when he dismanteld Gatti 2 years ago.....
Cause you can't tell me the Baldo, Zab, or Sharmba fights were something significant.....

Wadda 'ya think?

^His upset loss to Baldomir aside, I think beating Zab Judah is a pretty significant accomplishment.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

I see your points JT and you have SOME valid ones.... The SSM II fight is a gimmie we all know what went down....

Now I'll simply ask the same question about PBF whats his last significant fight that he won that ment something?

I say it's when he dismanteld Gatti 2 years ago.....
Cause you can't tell me the Baldo, Zab, or Sharmba fights were something significant.....

Wadda 'ya think?

---

I think Floyd has been fighting Mick and Oscar Hasnt been.... He isint the same Delahoya that was fighting Vargas, Mosely etc... I guess we dont what kind of Oscar is showing up May 5th, I could be wrong he could put on a better performance than any of the previous fights..

I just think that people get caught up in the past and remember The old Oscar and think thats who will be in the ring with Floyd... I cant say I blame them since Oscar hasnt shown us anything recently good or bad  :-\  just Mediocre I guess 

Look I like Oscar and think he is a Modern day gladiator with an impeccable resume and has titanium balls and one of this generations  great and finest warriors up there with Holyfield, Morales, Barrera etc         

But its not the same Oscar.....  ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Floyd fighting another man who is past his prime?
No!?
Not Floyd!
Tell me this is not so!

For reals though, what else is new?

Tell that chump Floyd to get his punk azz back down to the Welter Weight Division where the Prime Rib is.

Floyd Duck Feather Jr.

Quack! Quack!

---

+402 :coolclick: ahaha good shyt floyd duck feathers hahah quack quack

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

I see your points JT and you have SOME valid ones.... The SSM II fight is a gimmie we all know what went down....

Now I'll simply ask the same question about PBF whats his last significant fight that he won that ment something?

I say it's when he dismanteld Gatti 2 years ago.....
Cause you can't tell me the Baldo, Zab, or Sharmba fights were something significant.....

Wadda 'ya think?

---

I think Floyd has been fighting Mick and Oscar Hasnt been.... He isint the same Delahoya that was fighting Vargas, Mosely etc... I guess we dont what kind of Oscar is showing up May 5th, I could be wrong he could put on a better performance than any of the previous fights..

I just think that people get caught up in the past and remember The old Oscar and think thats who will be in the ring with Floyd... I cant say I blame them since Oscar hasnt shown us anything recently good or bad :-\ just Mediocre I guess

Look I like Oscar and think he is a Modern day gladiator with an impeccable resume and has titanium balls and one of this generations great and finest warriors up there with Holyfield, Morales, Barrera etc

But its not the same Oscar..... ;)

---

I'm trying to figure out who or what has lead you to write this up about people thinking ODLH is the same as before?
I think it's pretty obvious that it's not.....
ODLH has declined, while PBF has rised.
I don't think anyone denies that, but this is boxing and anything can happen....
Shit!! I've seen a man with a GIANT ASS FAN! fly in and land on the ropes of the ring while 2 Heavys were fighting I don't in a million years would anyone have thought of something like that happening....

But anyway! to me it's more of my support and belive in ODLH.
It's like when Jorge Paez was still fighting as he got older I knew for a fact the fighters he was facing were younger and faster but even then I always belived he could beat them....
Same way I believe ODLH can beat PBF.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

2006-05-06 153½ Ricardo Mayorga 153½ 28-5-1
MGM Grand Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, NV, USA W TKO 6 12
~ Time: 1:25 | Referee: Jay Nady | Judge: Duane Ford | Judge: Paul Smith | Judge: Guido Cavalleri ~
~ WBC Light Middleweight Title ~
Mayorga down once in the 1st rd & twice in the 6th.

2004-09-18 155 Bernard Hopkins 156 44-2-1
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA L KO 9 12
~ Time: 1:38 | Referee: Kenny Bayless | Judge: Dave Moretti 73-79 | Judge: Paul Smith 74-78 | Judge: Keith MacDonald 77-75 ~
~ WBA Middleweight Title ~
~ WBC Middleweight Title ~
~ IBF Middleweight Title ~
~ WBO Middleweight Title ~

2004-06-05 160 Felix Sturm 160 20-0-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA W UD 12 12
~ Referee: Vic Drakulich | Judge: Mike Glienna 115-113 | Judge: Paul Smith 115-113 | Judge: Dave Moretti 115-113 ~
~ WBO Middleweight Title ~

2003-09-13 154 Shane Mosley 154 38-2-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA L UD 12 12
~ Referee: Joe Cortez | Judge: Anek Hongtongkam 113-115 | Judge: Duane Ford 113-115 | Judge: Stanley Christodoulou 113-115 ~
~ WBC Light Middleweight Title ~
~ WBA Light Middleweight Title ~
IBA Light Middleweight Title

Alot of people are reliving Delahoya's glory days which he hasnt had a noticeable or significant win since he fought Fernando Vargas 2002-09-14 which is almost 5 years ago and Hasn't had a top level fight since Shane Mosely back in 2003 which is about 4 years ago... Since then he was gifted the Strum fight, stopped by Hopkins and KO'd a shot Mayorga who stands in front of you leads with his chin and has 0 defense...

Again father time ain't skipping over Delahoya, I don't care how charismatic he is ;D but seriously guys Oscar hasn't been Stellar since Vargas, lets not get all nostalgic and think that the former Delahoya is fighting the current Mayweather... Sadly its not the case.. Floyd is firing on all cylinders is just reaching his prime, is the best pure boxer and skilled technician offensively and is top 4 Defensively along with Hopkins,Wright and Toney...

The punchstats in Mayweather fights are always overwhelming in his favor for the most part, but his opponents percentages are anemic... This fight wont be any different IMO ;)

---

Good points here, I had him in front in the Hopkins fight at the time of the stoppage and i thought he beat Mosley the second time. The Sturm fight was a bad one, 160lb wasn't his weight that's for sure. DLH is still the most dangerous opponent Mayweather has faced and will have to be at his very best to beat him.

Oscar WAS stellar against Mayorga, I don't care what anyone says, he was all but one punch landed by Mayorga perfect, he outweighs, out muscles and is more experience than Floyd and that always gives you a great shot in 12 rounds of fighting.
.

Oscar has forgotten more boxing than any of Floyd's opponents ever learned!!!

Yes Oscar is old and past his prime but he's the most dangerous fight Mayweather will have ever had....and what does that tell you about Floyd???

This is similar to when Oscar was a young up and coming star and brutalized Julio Cesar Chavez...but after that ODH went after the best and only THE BEST!!!!


Floyd has never unified ANY division and what's more is that he has never even tried to!!!! Floyd is a pussy and I hope history remembers him as such!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lyle

Oscar has forgotten more boxing than any of Floyd's opponents ever learned!!!

Yes Oscar is old and past his prime but he's the most dangerous fight Mayweather will have ever had....and what does that tell you about Floyd???

This is similar to when Oscar was a young up and coming star and brutalized Julio Cesar Chavez...but after that ODH went after the best and only THE BEST!!!!


Floyd has never unified ANY division and what's more is that he has never even tried to!!!! Floyd is a pussy and I hope history remembers him as such!

---

As long as were around (or I'm around) I will make sure that everyone around me knows just that about PBF.... :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

---

hahaha COOL CLICK mr. SADDO, exactly DITTO for me too! it was worse cause I watched it in Scoreboards in POMONA which is like the biggest sports bar in Pomona aka Sugar Shane Mosely's hometown. his whole entire family(cousins, grandmas, aunties, uncles, nieces, nephews, etc etc was all sitting around me)

Am i only one who thought Oscar looked razor sharp against Mayorga ?? they are good points Jt Rock but also you got to take into account that Shane Mosley fight Oscar was robbed and Sturm and Hopkins fight was at weight which he is not comfortable at and he had bit of fat on his stomach and in his last fight he looked awesome imo his combos were quick i think he performed great against Mayorga and thing that makes me laugh is if Mayweather would of fought Margarito and beat him then people would of said he was ducking Oscar you just can't win with some people this is risk for Floyd fighting at weight he has never fought at before and if anyone can't see that then i can't understand your way of thinking.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards  ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings  ;)

---

Yup and I wish the Oscar that Fought Tito show that night without the running

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by beds

but if DLH catches him with a good combo


thats the exciting part

what could happen

can floyd take a full oscar whack ???

---

I honestly think that 154 is just too much for Mayweather...eventually you reach a limit...I think 154 is his ......I don't think he will have enough to hurt ODLH and if you really can't hurt someone you're in some serious trouble....no matter how fast you can run....you're going to get cought..

The weight issue is NOT gonna be a major factor...Floyd might not be able to KO Oscar...but Oscar is definitely not gonna KO Floyd.I just want to see what kind of strategy Roach comes up with.

.....it doesn't matter what strategy Roach comes up with Floyd will run and run and then run some more....Floyd WILL NOT KO Oscar #1 ODH is too tough to be KO'd by someone like Floyd at this point and #2 the last person Floyd KO'd was Sharmba Mitchell.....an OLD OLD OLD Sharmba Mitchell

Run Run Run?Well the judges didnt see it that way in the Baldo fight...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

---

I had a dream that I met you at a concert (I drink too much) and you looked like Clive Owen, it was awesome. Anyway you feeling to guilty to collect your earnings is hogwash, I would have been bragging to everybody saying "I told you boy"

This will be a real tough fight for Oscar. Floyd is slick and fast. If Oscar comes out trying to purely box and measure Floyd...he will look silly. Oscar has to utilize his biggest strengths in this fight: his power, size, and chin. He has to be content with the fact that he might potentially only land 1 punch for every 3 or 4 of Floyd's. He has to be patient, yet relentless...knowing that if he is able to catch Floyd...he could have him in trouble. Oscar is still sharp, quite fast, and definitely strong. But he can't come out there and take his time. He has to force Floyd to exchange. Easier said than done.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

---

I had a dream that I met you at a concert (I drink too much)

---

big mistake!! :biker: :bedromp:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by zhubin

This will be a real tough fight for Oscar. Floyd is slick and fast. If Oscar comes out trying to purely box and measure Floyd...he will look silly. Oscar has to utilize his biggest strengths in this fight: his power, size, and chin. He has to be content with the fact that he might potentially only land 1 punch for every 3 or 4 of Floyd's. He has to be patient, yet relentless...knowing that if he is able to catch Floyd...he could have him in trouble. Oscar is still sharp, quite fast, and definitely strong. But he can't come out there and take his time. He has to force Floyd to exchange. Easier said than done.

---

Zhubin I use to think you were one of the worst posters on this forum (second to Lawhoops) buy you have improved and you are coming into your prime. CC.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

---

I had a dream that I met you at a concert (I drink too much)

---

big mistake!! :biker: :bedromp:

---

I hope you are not speaking off of expierence Hairdoo. But I stay away from the Frankie goes to Hollywood concerts.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

De La Hoya won the second fight against Mosley regardless of the cards ;)


he won that fight as i remember it well because i had a big bet on Mosley winning via UD and almost felt guilty collecting my winnings ;)

---

I had a dream that I met you at a concert (I drink too much)

---

big mistake!! :biker: :bedromp:

---

I hope you are not speaking off of expierence Hairdoo. But I stay away from the Frankie goes to Hollywood concerts.

---

funny you should say that, I did have a close call once :-X

Mayweather is in great shape.I think Mayweather's defence & speed will help him at a weight he has never fought at, and is going to win! O0

Floyd's speed is going to troubling for Oscar, and Oscar's power could potentially be disastrous for Floyd. Floyd is the younger, faster fighter...this makes him the favorite. But Oscar, even if he isn't the "prime" Oscar of many years ago, is a tremendously skilled and experienced fighter. If Oscar was just some stiff who was strong...it's one thing. But he is so much more a complete fighter than anyone Floyd has faced. I am also curious to know what size ring they will be fighting in.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by zhubin

I am also curious to know what size ring they will be fighting in.

---

I don't think Oscar got the small ring he would have liked because of the location. ;)