~To All Joe Calzaghe supporters~

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

i agree, and joe really needs to stop talking about lacy, thats the past now go fight someone better. because its getting real old and joe is not getting any better popularity wise or talent wise.

:coolclick: cmm

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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maybe its just joes luck, he seem to not get over that hump for most people in the states. he really needs that kessler fight thats all and he needs to win BIG. that lacy fight is really getting old and just getting less credit for beating lacy who was after all this just hype.

also joe talking about fighting the likes of taylor bhop and winky doesn't help it just brings dissapointment because it just isn't happening and joe is just looking more and more just a big talker.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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Are you actually trying to make us believe that was a good stoppage???....Pass the buck off to the Ref???

I suppose you believe that Kesslers people declined the fight as well??

Hell Larry Merchant would not even let Warren talk because he knew it was going to nothing but a crock of SHIT!!!! Out of his mouth.....

The Lacey fight was then this is now!!!!!

I love how Calzaghe REFUSED!!!!!!! To Address the possibility of a Kessler Fight!!!!


I suppose that was the ref's fault...

Warren should be ashamed!

35,000 people paid to see that card !

Amir Khan V a Rabbit in the headlights

Enzo Maccarenli V a welterweight in 1989

Calzaghe V Tv personality


Awful awful awful show...

...God bless Michael Jennings - if it wasn't for him, we would have seen NO boxing at all!!!!









>:mad

Spot on CityOfGod.

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Originally Posted by CityOfGod

Warren should be ashamed!

35,000 people paid to see that card !

Amir Khan V a Rabbit in the headlights

Enzo Maccarenli V a welterweight in 1989

Calzaghe V Tv personality


Awful awful awful show...

...God bless Michael Jennings - if it wasn't for him, we would have seen NO boxing at all!!!!









>:mad

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CC# 63

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Originally Posted by CityOfGod

Warren should be ashamed!

35,000 people paid to see that card !

Amir Khan V a Rabbit in the headlights

Enzo Maccarenli V a welterweight in 1989

Calzaghe V Tv personality


Awful awful awful show...

...God bless Michael Jennings - if it wasn't for him, we would have seen NO boxing at all!!!!









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+62 :coolclick: warren is a punk for that show. that was a PITBULL VS PIG event something in boxing we need to get rid of. forget the popularity contest REAL boxing fans should take notice of this event happening we are getting rob big time.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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i agree...the normal american would of thought that was an excellent performance, not particularly a fightfan but the public at hand

Yeah it was a shame Joe , Kahn and Enzo all fought guys who wouldnt punch back but 35k people came to see it so it was a sucess atleast

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Yeah it was a shame Joe , Kahn and Enzo all fought guys who wouldnt punch back but 35k people came to see it so it was a sucess atleast

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yea those people would watch any joe fight though even if it was joe vs blow up doll.

Well it just goes to confirm what i already thought...

Contender fighters are farrrrrr to hyped.

im with Wacko cant blame Joe for the ref stopping the fight and Frank calls the shots on the matchups so credit to Joe he beat the pudding they put in front of him.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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Joe done what he had to, the ref stopped it and not Joe joe, hell calzaghe even said it was stopped a lil to soon.

Lets not forget HBO WANTED a 'big' US name...

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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im willing to bet that his stock has dropped in the us after that non-sense

Words fail me...............


So here's a pic:-

http://i17.tinypic.com/4556a9k.jpg



;D

Hate to be a grumpy so n so....but I'm a JC fan arriving home and TBH with all of y'all I think that he was the daddy tonight and was utterly dominant tonight in destroying his opposition.

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Hate to be a grumpy so n so....but I'm a JC fan arriving home and TBH with all of y'all I think that he was the daddy tonight and was utterly dominant tonight in destroying his opposition.

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watch it on tv and youll see that 99% of his punches hit manfredos arms

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Hate to be a grumpy so n so....but I'm a JC fan arriving home and TBH with all of y'all I think that he was the daddy tonight and was utterly dominant tonight in destroying his opposition.

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yep i think most see it the same way mate there just dissing the matchups and the ref... i think anyways ???

I was impressed with Joes hand speed, thats about it, he didn't look to have power. Threw some nice flurries, but can he do that all night? I really wanna see the Winky match-up that would be good, or Hopkins.I guess the winner of their fight.Kessler also.He will probably end up fighting Berrio..if he does I call bullshit.

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Hate to be a grumpy so n so....but I'm a JC fan arriving home and TBH with all of y'all I think that he was the daddy tonight and was utterly dominant tonight in destroying his opposition.

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watch it on tv and youll see that 99% of his punches hit manfredos arms

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I kniw I'm a cunt and I might be watchin his badboy in lieu, but If JC aiunt won it, then thi is a jk.

The stoppage was way to early Manfredo had'nt taken anything hard and this was a title fight if ever he fights Kessler which i don't think he will Joe's in for a beating Calzaghe,Warren,his Dad and everyone else knew the stoppage was early it was written all over there faces and then Warren says we've offered Kessler July now to me it looks like they've offered him a date they knew he could'nt make that way it now looks like Kessler is'nt to bothered about fight it makes Joe look better saying we offered but they can't Warren should wake up

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The stoppage was way to early Manfredo had'nt taken anything hard and this was a title fight if ever he fights Kessler which i don't think he will Joe's in for a beating Calzaghe,Warren,his Dad and everyone else knew the stoppage was early it was written all over there faces and then Warren says we've offered Kessler July now to me it looks like they've offered him a date they knew he could'nt make that way it now looks like Kessler is'nt to bothered about fight it makes Joe look better saying we offered but they can't Warren should wake up

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I watched the fight and personally I reckon that Joe C was a distance beyond the JC performance....but TBH Joe would destroy most folks in thie area, and I've alredy spoken with my mates...and we'll be at his unificatgion wiht Kessler.

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I was impressed with Joes hand speed, thats about it, he didn't look to have power. Threw some nice flurries, but can he do that all night? I really wanna see the Winky match-up that would be good, or Hopkins.I guess the winner of their fight.Kessler also.He will probably end up fighting Berrio..if he does I call bullshit.

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Yep he can seen him do it plenty of times and certainly against Lacy when he landed 1006 punches ;)

So what the feck it was stoped in the 3rd round, but there was no chance in hell manfredo was gonna win this. As someone else said just spare him the freaking punishment, and it's not joes fault that the fight was stoped prematurely, the only thing he and fw which stands for f*ckwad can be blamed for are taking this fight. If the next fight isn't a mega fight I am giving up on joe, cause he had 2 "comming out" fights after lacy bika and pm, time he fight someone on his level again. Also I hope to god the kessler match comes off, as little faith as I have in that happening, my money would still be on joe. HE may have a tendency to fight subpar competition but the man has skills, and when the limelight's biggest he just seems to thrive!

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I was impressed with Joes hand speed, thats about it, he didn't look to have power. Threw some nice flurries, but can he do that all night? I really wanna see the Winky match-up that would be good, or Hopkins.I guess the winner of their fight.Kessler also.He will probably end up fighting Berrio..if he does I call bullshit.

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I knew Calzaghe would be too much for him.
Peter is like a lame duck when it comes to flurries.
Sergio Mora unloaded his flurries and Peter would be like a deer in head lights.
Stuck like Chuck and could not buck.
Calzaghe can flurry all night and day and with broken hands.

I wish the ref would have let the fight go on. (I wanted to see this punk get dropped) :'(
I said Calzaghe might drop Peter in the 5th and finish him off in the 6th and judging by the way things were going I would have been close to about right.


Deer In Headlights

Is he too stunned or stupid to understand
he doesn’t really have to stay there?

Or does he know full well
what he needs to do, is he wondering
why he can’t and what in the world
is the matter with him, does he reckon

he might deserve to die, if he can’t even do
a simple thing like jump aside


http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1813/manfeojrsx1.jpg
Warning!
No Flurries Allowed.
Manfredo Jr.
Crossing.
;D

Ok, lets put it in simple terms. Carl Froch is wiiling, waiting, and more than ready to step in the ring with JC.

I`m sure JC will find some way of avoiding this though!!!

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I think that your'e wrong.

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I think you misundestood me..

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He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.
It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.
It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

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I agree he showed out tonight, but isn't that what was expected of him?
I'm saying look at the Bika fight and looking at this win how exactly does these 2 fights catapult him?

I personally would fire his management team for doing such a lousy job, reminds me of JMM. All the talent is there it's just that their careers have not been managed properly.

The calzaghe fight was diissapointing i must admit but that had f#ck all to do wid calzaghe that was peter just standing there like a lemon nd dont ne1 say he would av brought it back cos u could c from the 1st minute were this fight was going (for the dumb or blind it was a calzaghe win). And i aint even a calzaghe fan but if calzaghe dont fight kessler or taylor (or a world class opponent) next i will lose respect for him as i think along wid floyd mayweather its fight nd be remembered or dance nd go wid the wind as i feel both have avoided there toughest opposition nd so much for the bare knuckle fighter that had been all over europe lmao P.S popmey 2-1 Man u BLUE ARMY

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Originally Posted by CityOfGod

Warren should be ashamed!

35,000 people paid to see that card !

Amir Khan V a Rabbit in the headlights

Enzo Maccarenli V a welterweight in 1989

Calzaghe V Tv personality


Awful awful awful show...

...God bless Michael Jennings - if it wasn't for him, we would have seen NO boxing at all!!!!

>:mad

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But you know whats strange that if you looked around Millenium Arena it would appear that none of those people knew it...
I mean they were happy and cheering as IF Joe had just done something great....
I guess the people do after all belive what Warren says....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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Are you actually trying to make us believe that was a good stoppage???....Pass the buck off to the Ref???

I suppose you believe that Kesslers people declined the fight as well??

Hell Larry Merchant would not even let Warren talk because he knew it was going to nothing but a crock of S***!!!! Out of his mouth.....

The Lacey fight was then this is now!!!!!

I love how Calzaghe REFUSED!!!!!!! To Address the possibility of a Kessler Fight!!!!


I suppose that was the ref's fault...

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Wow Daxx...you really just ran with what I typed & started yourself a pointless argument.

Joe fought...& well I might add.

The ref stopped it. Not Joe. No where did I say it was a good stoppage...so don't try to make out like I did.

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Joe Calzaghe (42 fights with no losses & 31 ko's) vs. Peter Manfredo jr. (29 fights with 26 wins, 3 losses, & 12 ko's) Round 3: Manfredo comes out firing this time. Joe jabbing & then counters with a hard right hand & then a left. Damn. He’s all over him. Vicious combo’s from Joe. Super fast. Nice. Big left hand stunned Manfredo. Ripping body work & then combos up top. Joe is just hammering him to pieces. It’s over!

Round to Joe by a landslide...but that should not have been stopped.

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I really REALLY wish that that had gone the distance...but then again...Manfredo wasn't throwing S*** the entire time.

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Now Daxx...in closing...as far as me actually trying to make you or whoever believe that was a good stoppage...that should have just been cleared up...but as far as Joe's performance...what was wrong with it?

That's how he always fights & he did look good...no matter what that picklehead from the reality show said...he felt those pitty pat punches. Now...how does one pass the buck from a fighter off to a Ref???

Again...Joe did not stop the fight...the ref did & this is no fault of Joe's. ::**

wakko, in all honesty (i know you will NEVER like or watch or even not hate MMA) if ODH was gonna face B-HOP in MMA would you watch?

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maybe its just joes luck, he seem to not get over that hump for most people in the states. he really needs that kessler fight thats all and he needs to win BIG. that lacy fight is really getting old and just getting less credit for beating lacy who was after all this just hype.

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:coolclick: Totally agree. He does need Kessler...& honestly...if Kessler starts fighting other fighters...NAME fighters...it could turn sour & Joe might end up needing Kessler more than Kess needs Joe.

Again...I will agree that the Lacy fight is getting old...but it's also unfair how everyone has stated that Jeff Lacy was nothing more than an over hyped fighter...because Lacy really was a good fighter...but I truly do believe that Joe beat it out of him. I don/'t think that he'll ever be the same because of what Joe did to him.

Thing is...everyone can remember & applaude Tarver for what he did to Jones...but if you start propping Calzaghe on the Lacy win...it's not accepted in the same vain. Sure Jones was the greater fighter...but what Joe did should not be discounted by everyone just slagging off on Lacy...the men he beat...they didn't just lay out for him.

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also joe talking about fighting the likes of taylor bhop and winky doesn't help it just brings dissapointment because it just isn't happening and joe is just looking more and more just a big talker.

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Again...if he don't fight Kess...fwock it.

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wakko, in all honesty (i know you will NEVER like or watch or even not hate MMA) if ODH was gonna face B-HOP in MMA would you watch?

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Nope. That shit aint boxing...they aint martial artists...& I don't live in a gotdam trailer park nor do I have to hook up the rabbit ears to watch my sport. :P

Well my point here was that this suppose 'catapulting'/'coming out party Vol.2' (since Bika was suppose to be Vol.1) wasn't any better then the Bika one....

IMO it did nothing.... :(

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wakko, in all honesty (i know you will NEVER like or watch or even not hate MMA) if ODH was gonna face B-HOP in MMA would you watch?

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Nope. That shit aint boxing...they aint martial artists...& I don't live in a gotdam trailer park nor do I have to hook up the rabbit ears to watch my sport. :P

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hahaha

i see where ur coming from

i cannot watch most UFC cuz the guys kind of suck balls but i cannot avoid DLing pride PPVs, or at least i couldnt while the yakuza run DSE owned them... who knbows wtf the UFC company will do with it tho :( :( :(

theyve already announced they are taking away soccer kicks, 15 minute rounds, and overall fight scoring, its become UFC in a ring :(


there is one last DSE pride catrd left tho... and i shall enjoy it tommorow morning when i wake up

Ok, in this fight everyone achieved what they were supposed to, HBO got a showcase of Calzaghe's talents, Calzaghe made some dough, Frank Warren madea lot of dough, and everyone knew who Manfredo was so the fans tuned in. Period. Real boxing fans didn't get anything tonight off HBO. That came from showtime, it was beautiful.

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OK.......

So he did what he was suppose to do win the fight, now people will say the fight was stopped to early so now putting the Bika showing and this early stoppage....

What was all this talk about this fight being a market move as far as fighting Manfredo to catapult Joe into the US market.....

I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING I own that THIS fight DID NOT DO A SINGLE THING AS FAR AS catapult or move up Joe into the US market.....

So now what?

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I think that your'e wrong.

Period.

He showed out tonight/today & when it's rebroadcast tonight more people will see it.

It's going to have served it's purpose & anyone that wasn't impressed with Joe's night out...oh well...so what.

It was the ref...not Joe. Calzaghe did his work & he won the fight & woulda stopped him.

Period.

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Are you actually trying to make us believe that was a good stoppage???....Pass the buck off to the Ref???

I suppose you believe that Kesslers people declined the fight as well??

Hell Larry Merchant would not even let Warren talk because he knew it was going to nothing but a crock of S***!!!! Out of his mouth.....

The Lacey fight was then this is now!!!!!

I love how Calzaghe REFUSED!!!!!!! To Address the possibility of a Kessler Fight!!!!


I suppose that was the ref's fault...

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Wow Daxx...you really just ran with what I typed & started yourself a pointless argument.

Joe fought...& well I might add.

The ref stopped it. Not Joe. No where did I say it was a good stoppage...so don't try to make out like I did.

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Joe Calzaghe (42 fights with no losses & 31 ko's) vs. Peter Manfredo jr. (29 fights with 26 wins, 3 losses, & 12 ko's) Round 3: Manfredo comes out firing this time. Joe jabbing & then counters with a hard right hand & then a left. Damn. He’s all over him. Vicious combo’s from Joe. Super fast. Nice. Big left hand stunned Manfredo. Ripping body work & then combos up top. Joe is just hammering him to pieces. It’s over!

Round to Joe by a landslide...but that should not have been stopped.

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I really REALLY wish that that had gone the distance...but then again...Manfredo wasn't throwing S*** the entire time.

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Now Daxx...in closing...as far as me actually trying to make you or whoever believe that was a good stoppage...that should have just been cleared up...but as far as Joe's performance...what was wrong with it?

That's how he always fights & he did look good...no matter what that picklehead from the reality show said...he felt those pitty pat punches. Now...how does one pass the buck from a fighter off to a Ref???

Again...Joe did not stop the fight...the ref did & this is no fault of Joe's. ::**

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Wasn't there for the DRBR so I would not have seen that post....But all in all your statement still sounded like you were coming to Calzaghe's defense in the statement from this thread.....That simple....I am not going through the boards to see what you write every where before I make a comment on something...My comment was on the statement here alone....And You sounded Just like Calzaghe did during his HBO post fight intreview...To a question Larry Merchant asked outright....

Larry didn't ask Joe if he thought there was anything he could do about the ref's stoppage....

He didn't ask Calzaghe if he did his not and the ref did his....

Merchant asked him if he thought it was pre mature...Calzaghe danced around the question....

Then fifteen seconds later they start trying to tell the public Mikkel Kessler turned down a fight with Calzaghe...

Thank God Larry Merchant saved us by not letting Frank Warren have any interview time and ignored him

At the end of the day Calzaghe performed as he should have and was beating up Manfredo like we all knew he would. The ref was too quick to stop it. That much is clear, but lets not get all pissy on Calzaghe because lets face it, he did what was expected of him.

Now its who he fights next that should be forming opinions about Calzaghe and his stock because we all knew what the result here would be. Lets wait and see....

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Ok, in this fight everyone achieved what they were supposed to, HBO got a showcase of Calzaghe's talents, Calzaghe made some dough, Frank Warren madea lot of dough, and everyone knew who Manfredo was so the fans tuned in. Period. Real boxing fans didn't get anything tonight off HBO. That came from showtime, it was beautiful.

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damn straight