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I just watched that fight.............. ...... That was like me v my 10 yr old boy Michael with me in 16Oz sparring gloves and he in the 8 Oz bag mits - total mis-match. You must be f***ing kidding. If that was Kessler or Mundine in front of him GOOD NIGHT by at least round 3.
Are you saying Kessler or Mudine stop Calzaghe in 3
Mis match and bad stoppage. Pretty much a BS fight if you ask me. They never gave Manfredo a chance to get goin even, I doubt he would have won, but he deserved better than that. He's a tuff, ballsy kid, and he deserved better than that, so did boxing fans.
If that is what he brings - YES!!
If i could lose 4 and half stone i could give him a better fight than that infact i would probably knock him out ive never boxed i would have a W0,L0,D0 record and Warren would look at me as to much of a threat
If i could lose 4 and half stone i could give him a better fight than that infact i would probably knock him out ive never boxed i would have a W0,L0,D0 record and Warren would look at me as to much of a threat
Well I think you may want to have had a few fights before taking on someone like Calzaghe - and even my boy Michael!!! But seriously if someone can honestly tell me they think Kessler or Mundine would not have stopped Calzaghe in this fight please post and tell me how.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
It was a crap stoppage and I do not like Calzaghe at all, but I cannot say Kessler or Mundine would for sure stop Calzaghe in 3 rounds. No way. I think Kessler has a real shot at whippin Joe, and maybe stoppin him late. Mundine, he ain't no big hitter, and is chinny himself, so...no. I'll tell ya though, that any top fighter worth his salt would have countered Calzaghe's ass, and put him on his ass when he was all squared up, slappin at Manfredo against the ropes b4 the BS stoppage.
Calzaghe gets beat easy by Kessler for sure the stoppage against Manfredo was wrong he had'nt even been down
Thanks - that was what my drunken mind was atemping to articulate. Don't underestimate Mundine's Right It is BIG. He is not chinny - he got hit in the temple and it was his only stoppage. Calzaghe had tits in this fight - Again GIVE ME A BREAK he would have been stopped by either Kessler or Mundine if he brought to the fight what he came in with in this fight. Kessler and Mundine are supreme athletes and please dont tell me you thought Calzaghe could compete with them with what he showed against Manfredo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Well Mandrefo did nothing to make a fight , so if you don´t fight back the REF should stop the fight. The KO is always nice to watch, but fighters should protect themselves.
I'm not commenting on the stoppage - the ref did the right thing IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewhale
Manfredo was protecting himself he was taking most of them on his gloves and then when he started ducking under the punches and was'nt getting hit the ref stopped it.He had'nt been down or anything Joes barrage of punches were only pitter patter look how much punishment Graham Earl was taking his corner threw in the towel ref threw it back out at a lot of points in that fight Earl was taking massive punches on the ropes but it was a world title fight same as the Calzaghe fight so Manfredo deserved more time i thought he was just starting to do more and perhaps by round 4 or 5 could have had a bit of a rythem im not saying he was ever going to win but deserved longer the booing him in and out of the ring and booing his national anthem was a discrace
Those are the best fans in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
The booing and the chants were awesome.
Peter Manfredo Jr made a spectacle by moving his hips like a cheap table dancer during our so called beloved national anthem. How embarassing was that? And to make matters even worse, he was wearing an American flag shredded mini skirt. So much for showing respect for Old Glory, eh?
Lets just put this into perspective...
Manfredo was a reality TV LOSER who shat his pants on the big stage, this fight should't have been made IMO
Joe to me looked like he carried Manfredo for the first 2 rounds prob to try and make a show of it for the fans as it looked to me like he could have took him out at will from the first bell.
there is only one big challange at super middle for Joe at this point in time and and that is Kessler that fight needs made... but is looking very unlikly that it is going to be any time soon which is a big shame as Joe aint getting any younger.
but i dont pay too much attantion to the Kessler will kill Joe brigade as there was a similar bunch not so long ago claiming that Lacy would.... and most likly this time next year if they ever make the fight we'll have people claiming Kessler was a overhyped clown and Joe should stop ducking whoever is the latest bandwagon fighter ::**
but saying all that Joe Vs Kessler needs to happen they are the 2 best fighters at supermiddle and the only reason it isnt is because one of the promoters musnt want it to ::**
but please Joe NO MORE MIS-MATCHS... your far too good for the WWF crap :)
He'd batter Taylor inside the distance too which unfortunately is not the route i want to see him take.
I hope Froch can fight again soon as possible to turn the division on it's head.
Froch would give Calzaghe more problems than Kessler ever could imo.
Lets wake up into real world folks no one could lose weight and challenge either guy you would get beating like most people would and Mundine stopping Calzaghe in 3 ?? i can't believe you just said that considering Calzaghe has only be on floor twice and has never been koed and wasn't Mundine koed by feather fisted Sven Ottke who has record of 34 wins 6 kos ::**
Theres only 2 fights left for him at SMW...Kessler and (if he beats Inkin-He'll KO him 100%) Carl Froch that i would consider proper fights.
Nothing else appeals to me at all in the division.
Time to move up a weight if he's serious about some BIG names as he's running out of time.
Early stopage is an understatement. That was a joke. I come away from that fight thinking, Joe could beat Manfredo if they would fight, but I dont know because it never really happened. Its was really worse for Joe than Petter if you think about it. Joe was robbed of stopping Petter the right way. Im glad is wasent one of the 35,000 suckers that paid to see that. I think Manfredo acted respectful during the interview after the fight considering.
I think Joe is a great champ . I see no reason he would be stopped by anybody. I think he would whip Jermain or Bernard easy .He is so fast. Kessler is the only fight he should take. I think he should whip all three then retire.
Calzaghe is overated fighters like Kessler,Taylor or even Froch will prove this out of 43 fights Robin Reid gave him his toughest fight held him to a SD12 some people thought Reid won others Calzaghe it needed a rematch Calzaghe did'nt want it shows how good he is a fighter who wanted to be great would have wanted to prove himself Calzaghe did'nt and apart from the Lacy thing he never has proved himself to be as good as he makes out lets just get a great fight starting with Kessler
premature stoppage ...yes Calzaghe would have won anywayz-however pete didnt get a fair chance. he was bobing and weaving at the point of stoppage, and he was never hurt .. referee sux- referee sux -referee sux. manfredo goes home w/o shame and Calzaghe gets a match handed over 2 him.
had it been vice versa with mandfredo flurring Calzaghe against the ropes... it would not have been stoped.
Yeah that's a good point but I guess i mentioned those 2 because they are 2 of the highest rated ones at the moment. Also I was mainly commenting on what I saw in this particular fight. I'd imagine Calzaghe would prepare differently if he was to fight Kessler or Mundine and Mundine is a much better fighter now compared to when he fought Ottke.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Join the merry go round. I offered him this, no he didn't! he didn't offer anything. I cal you out. No! i call you out. Neither of us want to fight each other. signed joe and mikkel.
If you dont throw any punches how can you possibly win the fight?? Manfredo froze on the big occasion. He is and never will be in calzaghe'c class.
calzaghe could have taken him out at any point of that fight IMO. I dont know what the official stats say but im pretty sure that manfredo only threw about 15 punches in the whole fight >:mad
Now it been confirmed Calslappy has broke his left hand which now makes the stoppage look worse in my eyes did the ref help Joe out
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Originally Posted by RHHatton
Come on, Manfredo didn't get a chance to fight. I definitely didn't see any domination. I thought Joe would win, but the first round was close, the second Joe won clearly, and the third got stopped without any damage done by either fighter. Manfredo was doing ok. He stated his strategy was to box not bomb him out. So I would think he was waiting for Joe to stop punching and then he would punch back, he wasn't hurt, wasn't even getting hit with most of those shots. It was an absolutely RIDICULOUS stoppage.
Granted hardly anyone thought Manfredo would win, but most, myself included thought he would give a decent showing. He was doing fine, and apparently the ref felt that it was a total mismatch and he was looking for a reason to stop it. There's really no other explanation. There wasn't a single shot landed that looked damaging. Peter ate a few straight punches, but nothing to indicate he was hurt. Nothing at all....... It was ridiculous. That ref would have stopped every fight Sugar Ray Leonard threw his shoe shine combo at the end of the round. Winky Wright would be in big trouble with this ref , he always lets people punch his guard. Probably would have given Soliman a tko against Winky.
Finally a bit of sense in this thread. To be pissed off at Calzaghe is one thing but to say that Mundine and Kessler would stop him in 3 just makes you sound like a numpty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
A What? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ono