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Who stuck around way to long and tarnished their reputation
And who should,to quote Rose Tattoo's "Black Eyed Bruiser","Step away while youve still got teeth in your mouth"
Ill go for the obvious ones
Ali was deffinitly 2 fights two many
And as much as I love the guy,I really wish B-hop would take his legacy,and sit back and count his money.
ANother obvious one on the "Please pack it in side" is Holyfield
Evander,I know youve got to pay for your 5 Million Kids,but 7 years ago you were a great champ,do you really think your helping your legacy by fighting Vinny Maddalone,or Fres "A great way to pad your record" Oquendo?
Tommy Hearns is still on the comeback trail and Tommy Morrison looked like a bag of smashed assholes in his last fight... Looked like he ran the Boston marrathon at the end of that shit show!
I didnt force myself to endure the fight,but I did see an interview with Morrison before it,and yeah all I could think was,"Man,he looks like hell."Quote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
I can only imagine what he looked like after the fight
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Muhammad Ali
Julio Cesar Chavez
Mike Tyson
My thing is did they REALLy tarnish their reputation?
Hearns, Holyfield, Ali, JCC, Tyson.
All I know is every time I see the footage of Holmes/Ali I want to cry,I refuse to watch the Berbick fightQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Oh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I know what you mean.
I've NEVER seen Duran vs. Joppy.... EVER.
I don't think I ever will.
Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Hector Camacho, Roberto Duran, and Ray Leonard all fit in this category
Just about every fighter has hung around too long.
It'd be much easier to list the guys who haven't fought for too long.
I wish Ali had of stopped after the the 3rd Frazier fight!! It took a lot out of both guys.
Watched this again recently and it was brutal!!!
Holmes, Duran, Tyson, Camacho, Leonard, Hearns, Chavez, Jones jr all went to long.
The money is so good nowadays fighters just want to keep on going well past their used by date.
I really hope KT does not comeback. Win lose or draw DLH should hang em' up after May 5th.
Hearns, Holmes, Tyson, Joe Louis, Walcott.
A good example is Carlos MonzonQuote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Retired still holding the WBC and WBA middleweight belts,and never knocked out
'Finito' LopezQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Marciano
Lennox
Galaxy
Sven Ottke how many belts did he retire with ??
2,IBF,and the WBAQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
The only fighter I think that has ever damaged their reputation by holding on is Tyson. Honestly, that's about it I think. SP was right, every fighter has stuck around forever so I mean, it's almost expected from fans because when it's gone it's gone. I wasn't around for 80's Tyson, and the only Tyson I ever saw was the beaten down Tyson and I saw him for a looong time, and that's all I can really remember when I think Tyson. Of course he did some other things to tarnish his rep too ;D
You never have a second chance to make a first impressionQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
Alot of boxing fans only saw the Ali who could only talk at Holmes,or the Holmes that plodded around the ring tying to find a way to hurt Tyson,or even the Willy Mays,who couldnt chase down a fly ball at Shea.
That's true but at the same time, some decades removed from both Ali and Mayes, I hear about Ali conquering Liston, Foreman and Frazier against uncertain odds long before you hear the names of Spinks, Holmes or Berbick. Willie making the basket catch at the Polo Grounds in 54 is what he is remembered for. I'm a huge Giants fan and even more of a sports fan but it took me a long while before I even knew that Mayes played for the Mets.
However, Tyson isn't going to be remembered for much more then biting Holyfield's ear off and going to prison in my opinion. At least that's how he will be first and foremost. So I get what you mean that Tyson never really got the chance to make a first impression on me but Mayes in the Mets uniform or Ali zoning out in hi8s corner against Holmes weren't really unforgettable moments, or infamous like Tyson's were.
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Originally Posted by amat
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Same here man, I mean from golf to tennis to b-ball to soccer.....Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
I for one will like to remember Tyson during the post Lennox fight where hes caressing Lennox cheek with his hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
The gentle side of Tyson :)
They should come up with a senior league just like golf. That way they can fight other over the hill fighters.
Tyson
Holyfield is coming along fine being injury free and handled well at this point... He is gradually stepping it up and not sustaining alot of Punishment... His handspeed, combos look better than they have in the last 7 years as well as his workrate... People could hate all they want and take cheap shots but Evander is a specimen at 44, guys like Ali, Holmes and Foreman were flabby and out of shape and not well prepared as they got old, Holy still trains like he is 28 again... He should be supported as long he stays competitive and progresses towards a championship fight, Ronnie Shields has a good eye on Holyfield and will not let him take 2 much punishmnet in a fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
He never had great power,and speed is the first thing to goQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Its all about the paycheck
And he isnt competitive,he's fighting nobodies,he doesnt have time to "come along"
Your entitled to your opinion, but guaranteed you will be eating your words when he beats a Briggs or Valuev again judging by the terseness of your previous comments your dislike for Holyfield is blinding his progression and legitimacy to being a threat to todays heavyweights.. Albeit I think its a testament to how poor the division is, but hey if Evander can capitalize than more power to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Actually he was once upon a time a decent heavyweight
Now he's old,lacking decent power,and fighting sub-par opposition(and trust me,one of those fighters is managed by our promoter,I know of wich I speak)and running out of time
It aint personal baby,its buisness
ME! Trained yesterday and got knocked on my ass again!! I'm not a pro or a fighter but i do like to keep fit a bit and started doing some boxing training so I thought i'd have a go. You just don't see a left hook coming is all i can say.
ali
tyson( $$$ he need it)
m.moorer kinda yah
ike quartey not gonna win a belt soon
holyfield
tua
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
Hearns fights more as a something to do type thing...He does not take his comeback seriously.....Though I wish he would just stay away...Much as I love Hearns enough is enough....
I blame Foreman for thses guys coming back at 60...
Jones should just stay retired....It is over Roy you had a great run and are a GOAT....
Diego Corrales....Great fighter HOF bound...Multiple title wins...But the body is shot...Can't make the body perform...
Arturo Gatti....Too many war's paid his due's made some good money....
Tommy Morrison....You should have retired before the who Aid's thing
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
WTF is a bag of smashed assholes. :dontknow:
If youd seen Tommy even before the fight,youd be able to visualize it easily ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
will flyd be the one not to make the same mistake? ls wait and see but i think caralles is a couple fights over due now
Camacho
Foreman
Ali
Mosley
Trinidad
Hopkins
Mercer
Chavez
Jones Jr.
Roy Jones, Holyfield, Vernon Forrest, Vargas are all gonna have too many fights and should all be retired right now.
Your joking right?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeymt5