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"If Joe and Frank want me that much, make me an offer for $10m and I will show up and bring him a gift to his front door," Taylor told BBC Sport.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6549085.stm
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"If Joe and Frank want me that much, make me an offer for $10m and I will show up and bring him a gift to his front door," Taylor told BBC Sport.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6549085.stm
Ha that won't happen 8)
Never in a million years. $10m is a joke.
These guys aint gonna leave home, so sadly it will be another Calzaghe disappointment, cause he don't wanna leave home either.
How much did Taylor get for Hopkins and Wright and secondly this would be massive fight what was his offer 4m and fight in September ?? don't sound to bad from where im sitting.
Taylor got about $2m for the Hopkins fight
Now Taylor has priced himself out Warren will be breathing sigh of relief now Calzaghe can fight another bum
This isn't Calzaghe's fault though like it wasn't his fault when Hopkins priced himself while i have been slating Calzaghe recently its not all Calzaghe's fault that Taylor and Hopkins priced themselves out.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
For the Wright fight he got between $3 & $4, Warren knows this so he makes him an offer that he knows to well would not tempt a guy who can make his living fighting at home, i dont blame Taylor for asking for that amount, why would he want to come to Wales where everything could well be against him crowd, judges and refferee for 500k more?? It has to be worth his while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't really blame Calzaghe i blame Warren he's the man who makes the fights he's robbing us the fight fans
Yeah when I first saw the offer of $2m to Taylor I thought it must be a mistake and it was meant as £££...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Then it was upped to $4million, which still seems to short and yet $10million is much too much.
These guys aint gonna travel. Simple as. And that goes for Calzaghe too. So roll on Inkin ::**
The thing is Calzaghe barely made $2 million for the Lacy fight, sos urely with the HBO intrest he can make at least that fighting in the States, but Calzaghe is so stubborn he would probably want 50/50 with all comers in the USA which aint going to happen, because the likes of Taylor and Hopkins are not going to give Calzaghe 50/50 when he is basically a nobody in the States, why doesnt Calzaghe go over there make a big statement get his $2 million then if and when he beats a Taylor of Hopkins he can then demand 50/50. I just feel Calzaghe dont give a shit about leaving the game as a great, in his eyes he thinks he is already a great when he is nowhere near that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
If Calzaghe would of said he wants $10m to go to USA alot of people would of said he has priced him self out of a fight so why arent people saying that about JT.
Warren should up the offer of $4m it isnt that much seen as JT would be stepping up to fight the best SMW in the world and in his home town!
The thing is mate Taylor can stay home and fight Wright Hopkins Lacy Miranda Pavilk etc etc, who can Calzaghe fight Irkin and Froch?? The fights are in the States thats where the best fighters lie, also JT can make $4 million and more fighting fighters who have more respect and are bigger names in the States, why has Hatton gone to the States?? There is only so much you can do in boxing the mecca of boxing is in the States, if you want to be known as a great it aint gonna happen in Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
If he was ever gonna fight in the States he'd of done it by now. The Manfredo fight was the perfect oppotunity to make a belated American debut if he ever had any intentions of doing so.
Warren isnt keen on Calzaghe going to USA cause he can make alot of money by selling 35000+ tickets in Cardiff.i agree Calzaghe should go over to America i thought that was the point in fighting Manfredo to get more attention in America then go over there to fight.
Taylor has bottled it and it's as simple as that 8)
Exactly if he isn't going to Usa what was point in fighting Manfredo then ??Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
Come on Smash do you really beleieve that>?? The same guy who has fought Hopkins and Wright?? He might be scared to travel becuase he might think he will be screwed on foreighn soil but thats it, if this fight was in the Usa he wouldnt think twice about sigining for the fight, if this fight was in the Usa im sure Taylor would take $4 million all day long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
CAlzaghe is a great fighter, but he should definitely find a way to fight Wright, Hopkins, tarver, Miranda, RJJ now....no matter what, otherwise, he'd better retire...
So FW could show the boxing world he can sell 35,000 tickets for a load of pathetic mismatches...and have the mismatches broadcast live Stateside as well as here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Think what numbers he can do for REAL fights...and therein lies the problem at the moment.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Sorry but i far from agree,weird how certain fighters ask for crazy amounts of cash when being matched up with Joe.
He'd get destroyed by Calzaghe ;)
Problem is when are these so called *real fights* going to be made ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Well itv are proper pissed at Frank and are thinking off not renewing his contract in June, Frank Warren is a guy who is bleeding the Sport dry, hopefully Hennessey or Hobson can bring some good fights to Itv.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yes, although in his column yesterday he rubbished reports that ITV were interested in showing the Hatton-Castillo fight because of his exclusive deal with them to show just his mob.
taylor doesnt want the fight.simple.10m is a crazy amount.what if the situation was reversed?if calzaghe said that he would be accused of ducking.
Im the biggest Calzaghe fan out there and i think hes way to much for Taylor, but how can you honestly say he is ducking Calzaghe?? Calzaghe needs Tayler more than Taylor needs him, he just doesnt want to travel do you blame him?? After that joke stoppage?? Like i said if the fight could be made in the States im 100% certain Taylor would fight for the $4 million, why should Taylor travel?? He probably could fight Kessler winner of Hokins Winky, Mirnada-Pavilk, he dont need Calzaghe, its sad to sat but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89
Here's the way that I see it...fan's are always short changing Joe for all the wrong reasons.
It speaks leaps & bounds that the other pro's are pricing themselves out.
Two reasons...& critics can lie to themselves all that they want:
#1: Many people are either smart or scared of Joe. Face it...that's the truth. Joe is well respected & properly feared.
#2: They DO NOT want to give up home court advantage to the favorite...no matter where he is. Joe would come stateside to fight Taylor...I wonder if they fought in the U.S. what would Taylor do?
He'd bail. No if's &'s or asses about it.
wonder how much JT would want if joe offers to go other there and beat his arse?
These "negotiations" have been a joke from the start.
Its like a contest to see which side can make the more ridiculous offer. Taylor could make 4 million fighting bums in his hometown so Warren's offer was a complete joke. But then Taylor's obviously not gonna get 10 million, just a waste of time so far.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
good shout mate. taylor is already out there fighting guys like bhop and winky wright, and these are all guys who calzaghe wants to get to come over to the UK and fight him.
I disagree. A win for Taylor would be massive. A win for Calzaghe would only bring critism for fighting a middleweight who has looked average to poor in his last 2 fights.
It's early stages of negotiations guys, at the moments no ones ducked anyone. Frank's done an offer of $4m which I'm sure is not the highest he's willing to go, while Taylor's said $10m which I'm sure is not the lowest he's willing to go, it's why they call it negotiating.
Taylor is training for a fight at the moment so Im sure the serious negotiating will start after Spinks is out of the way.
Hope this fight does take place, Im as big a fan of Joe as anyone here, but he really, really, really needs a big a fight next, no more waiting, he's not got long left.
in that case it's time to face kessler. ;D
oh man.
taylor is officially ducking calzaghe as he knows he won't get 10m.
calzaghe should just fight kessler or jones
JT has priced himself out but can you blame him? Moving up in weight,going to the guys' backyard etc. JT has already proved his willingness to fight the best,fighting B Hop and Winky back to back,and I'm not evenJT fan. Joe C needs to show some balls and fight Stateside.
Fen,I don't know if it was in that article but it's almost certain that if JC does not fight Taylor,he'll be fighting Inkin!!!! What a LET DOWN! The ball is entirely in Warren's court. You can't ask Taylor to come to Britain,move up in weight AND take the $4 mill offered which is a joke becuase JT could easily make more than that fighting in his own hometown.
Anyone care to bet me there was an international TV rights rider slipped in to Warrens 4 Mill offer?
Anyone want to further bet me on how hard Taylor's manager Lou"Creator Of HBO's Boxing After DarK"DiBella laughed when he saw it?
No doubt your right, that Frank Warren has shown us he can generate big dollars putting up complete stinker events.. The real issue is, how much is Calzaghe making for these matchups?? Probably far from what Taylor has been making his last few fights... It just seems to me like Joe is content to hide behind Warrens shoulder and continue to be his cashcow, without likely getting big dollars himself.. Who cares what his promoter can rake in for some BS night of boxing, Joe should be seeking out the big fights himself. He should be chomping at the bit and demanding Warren get him a big fight.. But the more I think about it, I think he may have the same mindset as Frank... Just stay in Wales, fight whoever, long as I can draw a good crowd and make good money.. Does HE really even care about his legacy??Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I always find it amusing when guys who grew up in the ghetto with no money turn their noses up at millions of dollars for a couple months training and an hour of fighting.
Really put it into perspective. $4mil isn't enough? I agree with negotiating to try for more, but seriously, would you turn down $4mil?
The world doesn't end if Taylor loses, I would go to wales for $4mil anyday. I'll fight Joe, Taylor, and Bhop back to back for $4Mil.
If you had more belts youd travel to the guys home turf,go up in weight,and agree to less money then youd make in the states?Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
It's all relative.. It doesn't matter where he grew up, what matters is what he can generate today.. If you were Jermain Taylor, I can almost guarentee you wouldn't go to Wales for 4 million. What's the point? You could fight a lesser challenge in the States for that much.. Or fight 2 blown up welterweights back to back and make more than that.. You say the world doesn't end if Taylor loses, but if he get's dominated, what then?? He basically loses a lot of stock, for what is an average payday for him.. He'll have a lot of trouble making even 4 million ever again if he went to Wales and got his ass whipped.. It's all business, doesn't seem like your thinking this through much.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame