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I mean this is being hyped to gargantuan levels,and is one the few fights which will actually attract fans from all walks of life,hardore and casual alike,your corporate sponsors,EVERYONE!
The price is something like $55 dollars and I've heard tickets are being sold on the blac market/Ebay,for HUGE sums of money.
So what if it turns out to be a let down? Will boxing lose more fans/potantial fans? Will it matter? Hit me with your thoughts peeps!
This is the first fight in YEARS that my friends have heard about outside of me telling them about it.
If there is not a lot of engaging, this will greatly hurt boxing as a whole IMO, especially stateside.
What do you think will happen though? Will attendances dwindle? Tito Oscar was a let down,you think that had an impact? This fight could be the same with Oscar playing the role of the agressor(Tito) and Floyd boxing off the back foot allllll the way through(Oscar).Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
By June, we will have forgotten all about how people were robbed.
"There's a sucker born every minute."
I guess we are the kind that are reincarnated.
We be sucka's fo' life.
BTW.
P. T. Barnum Never Did Say
"There's a Sucker Born Every Minute"
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html
Interesting about the giant from Cardiff.
Good question.
I don't think this fight is gonna be boring. Nothing about both fighter's styles would lead me to believe it'll be a bore.
I think the thing that'd hurt the sport more than anything about this fight is if it ends in a bad decision or some other anticlimactical way like an early stoppage on cuts or something.
I think stacking the undercard would've been one of the most important things about the night.
With so many casual and nonboxing fans who'll be turning their attention to the sport for one night, it's a shame they couldn't get some of the young more exciting fighters on the undercard. Like a Berto or Miranda. A casual fan who's never heard of either of these guys who tune in to see them on that night will most definitely tune in to see these guys again. And a star is born.
Or assuming some crazy contractual agreement with Showtime, it would've been awesome to see some more "names" on the card and put something like Mayorga - Vargas together and undercard it on the night as well.
I'm not saying the undercard is absolutely dreadful as of now, but for an event like this I hoped they would've pulled out all the stops to promote the sport.
when the fight was first made i thought that it might be a bit of a chess match and be a bit boring. but i changed my mind about that weeks ago and i think oscar is really going to go for him which will make it exciting with floyd pulling off good counters and oscar applying good pressure. fight fans were booing floyd vs baldy because floyd didnt really want to exchange and because baldomir's limited to what he can do so therefore just ended up plodding forward and eating up pick pocketed shots from floyd. oscar wont be doing that and this fight will be a lot different to that.
but with all the hype of this fight i can see boxing being hurt if this fight does end up being a stinker. but i cant see it happening now.
I don't quite understand.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
I personally think it will be boring,unless Floyd takes risks,risks which may be he does not need to take. I think it mainly depends on Oscar,whether he can rough Floyd up,cut off the ring etc. If he cannot,it will be boring.I don't think cuts will be a factor but you re correct,a bad decision COULD spoil or on the other hand,it could lead to an even bigger rematch....Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
Totally agree with you on the undecard. Boom Boom Bautista is a very good fighter and it should be an excellent oppertunity for him but I would love to have seen more fighters,like you said. I wanted to see a ram packed under card,which would slowly build up to the main event.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
I agree with the Baldo fight,but I think if Floyd performs as he did in that fight,it'll be very difficult for Oscar to catch him. However,I really really want to see Oscar land that left hook!!!!!!! I think it's up to Oscar,to catch Floyd early,take him out of his rythm. I know it's easier said than done but he needs to give us something to cheer about!
Even if the fight turns out to be a onesided whuppin' for Floyd, I still don't think it'd hurt the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
As long as he does it in a PBF-Gatti or PBF-Corrales type performance.
In the fight against Baldo, I think Floyd was playing it extremely safe because he knew this Oscar payday was looming on the horizon and there really was no reason to take any risks on that night.
But this is the big show now. This is the night he's been waiting for all his life. There's no way he throws it all away because he's scared. What is he saving himself for now? This is it!
His three biggest fights so far have been against Hernandez, Corrales, and Gatti. And look how he turned it up in his showcase fights. I can't imagine Floyd not wanting to put on an absolute show for this biggest night he'll ever have.
As much as a lot of his haters like to believe he's a runner, I really don't see Floyd as one.
Against Baldy, he played it safe saving himself for the Oscar payday. Maybe against Castillo I he was a little safe too but you could make the argument about his injuries that night.
But Floyd is a fighter. He loves fighting in the pocket. Just because his opponents seldom hit him, it doesn't mean he's running.
I don't think Floyd's gonna run and he'll probably take his share of whacks from Oscar. And I almost guarantee you'll see that Oscar left hook early on! Floyd will see that big body as a target and lunge in for a jab to the body and probably get whacked with a counter left hook.
But he'll take it and go on to put on the biggest show of his life.
(I believe, anyways!)
Well then more people will hate Floyd as it would obviously not be ODH's fault because he's never been boring before.
I just want Floyd to get massacred he's such an arrogant prick
I don't think their will be a downfall or slant however you wanna call it.
I mean look at how much Tito-ODLH was hyped it was a GREAT fight from a view that ODLH gave Tito a boxing lesson and for the most part I remember people applauding and appreciateing ODLH performance. Then again I'm ONLY speaking on my surroundings meaning the 20 something people whom I saw the fight with and about another 20 whom I talked to about the fight....
Completely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
nope no worries the one thing always good when oscar is fighting is that he always excites fans and that is one of the best qualities in oscars game and part of the reason why he remained the darling of boxing fans all over the world for all these years besides his boxing skills, charm and great quality opposition that he never backed out when challenged. Floyd may try to make it ugly though by running like chicken again but i doubt it; Oscar will pressure him until his[oscar] very last drop of gas has been used. sad to say though if he can't lure floyd to fight him toe to toe at some point on later rounds, still it might not be enough to take out floyd in chicken mode all night. :)
Then people will say Oscar was past it.
I do not conceive the possibility of a letdown.....This will be worth it......Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
i said it before and ill say it again....... every time oscars in a super duper mega fight theres always a shady outcome! :-\
WE NEED EMBASSADORS OF THE SPORT THAT WILL LEAVE IT ALL OUT ON THE LINE DURING A FIGHT FOR THE SAKE OF BOXING SPORT. BUT TOO BAD BOTH FIGHTERS ARE MORE MONEY HUNGRY THEN REPRESENTING THE SPORT AND SHOWING THE WILL TO PUT ON A GREAT SHOW FOR THE FANS. HOPEFULLY ODLH PUTS ON A GOOD SHOW, I DOUBT PBF WOULD CARE FOR THE SATISFACTION OF THE FANS. HE'D DO WHATEVER IT TAKES JUST TO REMAIN UNDEFEATED.
I THINK THIS COULD BE A HUGE LET DOWN. I'M STILL HOPING NOT THOUGH.
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
All except the first Mosley fight
Some of yall people are fucking hypocrites just like ODLH. Are you kidding me? If anybody is the epitome of not caring about delivering a great fight to the public it was ODLH against Trinidad. He boxed very cautious and very smart the first 8 rounds to his credit but then hopped on his bike the last 4 rounds (the championship rounds). In the biggest non-heavyweight fight in history, he didn't care about the fans that paid a lot of money to be in the arena that night or the fans watching on PPV, he didn't care about the impact him running to try and secure a victory would have on boxing, the only thing he cared about was getting the win and his legacy. Does anyone not remember the tons of boos Oscar was getting while he was on his bike? The last four rounds of that fight were so frustrating. In the most important rounds and the biggest stage of his entire career, he ran, plain and simple. I'm not talking about PBF potshotting either, I'm talking about running. So to hear Oscar say this and that about how Floyd better not run on May 5 is competely ridiculous. Floyd's never ran in his career like ODLH did in the Trinidad fight and that's a fact. So for you to sit here and criticize Floyd for something that he's never done and ODLH HAS done in the past is ridiculous. I'm not even worried about how the fight turns out because I know it will be in the least, a good fight. Oscar's only shot is too knock Floyd out in the first four rounds. If he doesn't get that done, Floyd's gonna tear his ass up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Treu true,Oscar is exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeplessrevolution
Yea but what do people remember most about the Tito fight bro?> Certainly not the admittedly masterful Oscar boxing performance BUT the running he did at the end. That was dreadful and I'm CERTAIN it must have put off ALOT of potential fans who were casual fans watching that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Youre' answering the wrong question ??? ??? ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
May be true but I don't think Floyd really gives a shit about the fans and what they think....or I could be wrong. Maybe his breakdown after the Baldo fight shows he DOES care what others think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
yeah the first SSM was my favorite for both BROUGHT IT that night i was highly impressed by both!Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
but look at how bad your statement even sounds: ALL except the first SSM fight haahha that sounds bad yo
This isn't true though. Oscar has been criticized before for not having enough action in a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
His fight against Whitaker was viewed by many as being boring. It was an ugly, defensive fight.
He took a lot of heat for the Trinidad fight.
I'm not saying I completely agree with the criticism, because I like technical boxing, but it's inaccurate to say that Oscar has never had a fight that was considered boring.
Topic: What are the repercussions if Floyd v Oscar is boring???
Me going to bed grumpy and being in a bad mood all day Sunday
Particularly if City lose to United on the same day.
May 5th is either guna be really good or really shit!!!!!
Best answer yet ;D CCQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
Anyways, anyone else thinks that this is competing with the UFC? I mean, the UFC hasn't exactly been exciting lately, but it has bigger publicity then boxing stateside right now in some respects. But every UFC fan I know is getting this one. Not really answering the question, but if it turns out to be an exciting fight, it could be the most helpful thing to boxing since Tyson in the 80's.
But if it's a bore, which I doubt it will be, then I don't think it's much more then a squandered opportunity. Because, I mean it won't kill boxing. Nothing will. It might turn a few fans off, it might make a few vow never to buy ppv again, until the next superfight rolls along.
That's true I guess but because he's the Golden Boy,these things are quickly forgiven. Those fights are still remembered for the decision and it was also P4P number v P4P number 2 which is cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Treu true,but when will there be another super fight like this? Especially with Oscar getting younger,I HIGHLY doubt that there will eb a fight to match this,to grab the casual fans attention as much as this, You could be right,it could just turn off a handful. It could also attract ALOT of new fans if its a great fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
How many years has UFC been around? Nowhere near as long as boxing right? Yet it is already clawing ground? Thats bad. I agree though,I don't think ANYTHING will kill boxing but I mean this could really attract alot of new fans if it's good.
lol cc back. I think its great That there are two kick ass sports like MMA and Boxing. They shouldn't be rivals. I greatly enjoy watching both of them. If the Mayweather fight is boring, people will whinge for a week or so but theres always a quality scrap just around the corner. Sounds like i am talking about where i live now ;D but ya get the point? The occassion itself is very exciting and even if the fight is quite dull, i still won't be able to take my eyes off it.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
UFC has niched a fanbase. It's mostly just white 20 somethings in all honesty. Problem is, those are the ones most prone to shelling out money for PPV. But UFC live gates are never overly impressive so I don't think it's to much of a threat. Not to boxing anyways.
I guess this is the first superfight in a while, probably since Tyson - Lewis so you're right there won't be one like this for a long while. Here's to hoping it's good because, well you're right we can't really afford for it to be bad.
I look at it this way...
If the fight doesn't live up to the hype, then boxing really isn't going to lose that many fans, because the loyal fans will still come back.
But if it lives up to or exceeds the hype, and is a thrilling high-action fight, then boxing could win over a lot of new fans.
If it's a great fight, then maybe those casual fans also will decide to order Cotto-Judah, and if that's an action fight, then maybe that casual fan becomes a hardcore boxing fan.
Its an intriguing fight for me...but it could be very boring to a casual fan...
Its a business before anything else nowadays,so it wont have any major repercussions.HBO has already made their money with advertisements,its already sold out,and PPV buy numbers are expected to break records.It wouldnt be the 1st mega fight to not live up to the hype.If you are watching just to see a KO or to see Floyd lose...you'll probably be dissappointed or bored.
There really arent any
Think of all those 1 round Tyson PPV's
Didnt keep the next one from selling,even though there cry's across the country of,"I paid 40 bucks for this????"
DeLa Hoya's beloved in the Mexican community come hell or high,and that sells PPV's
My wife works for Direct,Mexican Fighters in a PPV,they have to bring in extra staff to handle it
It's true what took place that night against Tito he followed instructions and he paid the price right. He lost the fight right?Quote:
Originally Posted by albsur2006
Since THAT fight has he done the same? HELL NO!!
He learned his lesson he needed to make a decision he went with it and thats that
are you gonna ride ODLH career based on 1 fight?
I'll this here with the FACT that Hes always brought excitement to the sport and the masses follow him. Come May5th you'll see what I mean.
Whichever way the fight turns out and I thing it will be a slow burner to start. Somewhere its going to ignite and when it does we will witness something special of quality.