Mayweather v De La Hoya -boring chess match waiting to happen ? (Ring Mag. talk)

Am sure a good few of you agree

It will be technically excellent I have no doubt - but edge of the seat stuff ?? :-\

Just got latest Ring magazine and there is major article on it. Of a poll of 20 'experts' only one sees it stopping inside the distance (Mayweather by TKO around the 7th)

Most go for Mayweather by decision, a few Oscar.

I hope I'm wrong and this is a classic but... ???

Just thought I'd kick off a thread ;)

Yeah! I picked it up myself a few days back.
Great read....

Last isssue they interviewed 7 trainers and they asked them 'How do you think ODLH should fight PBF?"..... "Whats style should he use"
From Steward to Suarez to Goosen and even Dundee.

For the record (which doesn't mean much BUT talk) Dundee thinks ODLH will beat PBF.

It's pretty interesting, and Genaro Hernandez(who fought both them) thinks Mayweather will win. However guys like Baldomir think otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

It's pretty interesting, and Genaro Hernandez(who fought both them) thinks Mayweather will win. However guys like Baldomir think otherwise.

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Baldomir is still trying to get the license plate number to the Ferrari that hit him back in November ;D

Reporter: "Carlos, you've been in the ring with Floyd, how well can he take a punch?"

Baldomir: "I don't know, I never landed one."

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Yeah! I picked it up myself a few days back.
Great read....

Last isssue they interviewed 7 trainers and they asked them 'How do you think ODLH should fight PBF?"..... "Whats style should he use"
From Steward to Suarez to Goosen and even Dundee.

For the record (which doesn't mean much BUT talk) Dundee thinks ODLH will beat PBF.

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Did anyone read the one with the trainers views? ^

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Reporter: "Carlos, you've been in the ring with Floyd, how well can he take a punch?"

Baldomir: "I don't know, I never landed one."

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I think Trainers are not the best judge of who will win. There is a guy up here in Canada who thought Gatti would Mayweather, and so did Micky Ward. I know Manny was saying Baldomir will be Mayweather's biggest challenge to date before that fight. I saw Dundee on a talk show up here called in this corner the same one where the guy rated Gatti over Mayweather, and Dundee thought that Ali beat any other heavyweight anywhere any time, and he also thought the hook Fraizer landed on Ali would have ko'ed any other heavyweight. I doubt Tua would have even flinched. I think Trainers think too highly of certain fighters because of the style while they are over critical of other fighters. THat's just what I've seen.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

For the record (which doesn't mean much BUT talk) Dundee thinks ODLH will beat PBF.

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For the record...it could happen.

The way I see it, today, it's a bit more even than most think.

Oscar could probably gain a bit of an advantage over Floyd based on the fact that Floyd's very reserved with his output. If Oscar can flurry while Floyd tries to accumulate...he could win the decision.

I hope not though.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

For the record (which doesn't mean much BUT talk) Dundee thinks ODLH will beat PBF.

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For the record...it could happen.

The way I see it, today, it's a bit more even than most think.

Oscar could probably gain a bit of an advantage over Floyd based on the fact that Floyd's very reserved with his output. If Oscar can flurry while Floyd tries to accumulate...he could win the decision.

I hope not though.

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Yeah but with Floyd's speed, counter punching plus defense landing meaningful flurries may be difficult.

Oscar needs to make Floyd come to him!!!

That's the worst thing IMO ODLH can do. There is no way he can counter Mayweather. Its funny Genaro Hernandez said the same thing about forcing Mayweather to come to him if they fought again, but Mayweather did lead almost the whole fight, and Hernandez was completely overwhelmed. Mosley will help Oscar get used to the handspeed, but he doesn't come in like Mayweather at all. You never see Mosley truly jump in with a hook or a cross like Roy Jones or Floyd do, and that is something you can't prepare for.

honestly i feel it will be a boring ass chess match and on top of that if they are still agreeing on REYES gloves then be prepared for PBF to break his hand early on and even make it more snooooooooooooozefest

but then again who are we to front we all cant wait till cinco de mayo! :lickish:

These are also 10oz. gloves which will help Floyd's hands a little, and if he is going balls to the wall then a broken hand shouldn't hinder him all that much. I thought the Baldomir fight was very entertaining after he hurt his hand because he displayed his terrific defence.

Every now and then I think to myself..

"self.. who are you kidding Floyd is going to have a field day with the holes in Oscar's defense and if he is happy to have fans hate on him now why would he care enough to risk giving them a desent fight and not just run to victory?"

when I'm on a downer like that I just go and watch Mayweather v Castillo I. I see alot of similarity in style between Castillo and De La Hoya. Then I think to myself..

"self.. Oscar can do everything Castillo can do only he is bigger and better. If Castillo could land clean shots on Floyd on the ropes imagine what damage Oscar will do to lil'Floyd."

;D

i think this is more likely to be a snooze fest.

what if pbf is coming in while odlh takes a mini step back and lands a GIGANTIC left hook. now that will bring excitement, the whole arena would prolly explode.

oscar has to hurt pbf, he can't wait on him pbf is too fast, some how oscar must hurt pbf. I hope oscar consistantly goes to the body early just hit it whenever and hard and as often as you can. that should take away pbf stamina and footspeed.

But whatever happens its going to be hard to beat pbf.

No chance it's boring imo. Basically because Floyd is going to have to land punches in numbers to win. And Oscar has good enough timing and is saavy enough imo to hit Floyd back.

Hate to over simplify it but if people think Mayweather is just going to run, then how does he plan on winning?

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Every now and then I think to myself..

"self.. who are you kidding Floyd is going to have a field day with the holes in Oscar's defense and if he is happy to have fans hate on him now why would he care enough to risk giving them a desent fight and not just run to victory?"

when I'm on a downer like that I just go and watch Mayweather v Castillo I. I see alot of similarity in style between Castillo and De La Hoya. Then I think to myself..

"self.. Oscar can do everything Castillo can do only he is bigger and better. If Castillo could land clean shots on Floyd on the ropes imagine what damage Oscar will do to lil'Floyd."

;D

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I feel you. People make it seem like Floyd is fighting a slow stiff. Don't get me wrong...Floyd's speed and defense will be a tremendous challenge for Oscar...but Oscar ain't Baldomir people. He is a tremendously skilled boxer who is also bigger and stronger than Mayweather. As great as Floyd is...i just don't see him keeping Oscar off...especially at this weight...and considering Oscar is an accurate, strong, and still quite fast a puncher...Floyd will eventually get hit. How he will handle Oscar's power is one of the intriguing parts of this fight.

did u all hear in the super bowl interview PBF said he'd def do a rematch if oscar wants to as well??????

that doesnt sound good at all yo if u ask me that he was talking like that way back at the super bowl???????? :-\

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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P

did u all hear in the super bowl interview PBF said he'd def do a rematch if oscar wants to as well??????

that doesnt sound good at all yo if u ask me that he was talking like that way back at the super bowl???????? :-\

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reminds me of when mohammad (pacs former promoter), when he mentioned rematch(or trilogy)before the first pac and em fight. it all read cheese to me if you get what i mean.

razor thin decision one way or a draw then.... :-\

we need Oscar to land a big punch early and set the tone for the fight. Slow first couple of rounds and that will be it for the next 10..... ::**

I actually think this fight will almost live up to the hype. Now most of you know I'm hardly a fan of Oscar De La Hoya the saint but he is always in entertaining fights.

And for Floyd, whenever he's ever stepped up and fought an important 'destiny' fight he's always delivered emphatically.

I for one think this will be one hell of a fight.

Can't wait, I just hope Floyd wins and then gets killed by Mosely around Christmas time.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I actually think this fight will almost live up to the hype. Now most of you know I'm hardly a fan of Oscar De La Hoya the saint but he is always in entertaining fights.

And for Floyd, whenever he's ever stepped up and fought an important 'destiny' fight he's always delivered emphatically.

I for one think this will be one hell of a fight.

Can't wait, I just hope Floyd wins and then gets killed by Mosely around Christmas time.

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I was very dubious about this but after seeing the HBO 24/7 show and seeing Both men train (Oscar looks great in training with Roach)
i think this may explode ;)
Im with MarkTKO and feel if Oscar can put it on him early then we are in for a classic.
I really do think Oscar wants to put some pain on this little gobshite ;)

I have to say if anyone is gonna be koed I think its gonna be floyd, oscar is to good to be koed by him even if he loses, Im sorry the castillo fight, the judah fight lingers oscar would either easily