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this is non-sense
these are odds from a bunch of sites
Cotto, M -500 -500 -500 -500 -450 -500 -600 -600
Judah, Z +333 +333 +333 +375 +300 +300 +350 +350
-600 for cotto?!!?!?!?!?
is he seriously that big of a favorite?!?!?!!?
and the +375 for judah is preposterous
NICE.
I plan to drop a stash on Zab.
Praise be to thee odds.
The only place you'll be dropinn' that stash is down the shitter.. :flush:Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
Maybe it depends what Judah shows up.
Cotto certainly deserves to be the favorite, but the -500 or -600 odds are a joke.
I would've put him somewhere around -250 or -300.
Oh! dear god no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Not the ol' versions of Zab theory again. :-\
Sounds 'bout right to me. :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Seriously though...I've already said it once...I see "MAJOR UPSET" fwocken stamped all over this one.
Hah probably!Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
But the thing is Zab's faced fighters similar to Cotto's style before. Those were guys that could take a good punch. I'm just not 100% sold on Cotto's chin yet. And the fact that he hasn't faced anyone with the speed of Judah. I think Zab could really frustrate him with it. You can see moments of frustration in Cotto at times when things aren't going his way. I think the speed will give Zab a number of chances to whack him early on.
If Cotto takes the shots well, I'm boned. But the risk is worth the reward that he can't take it! (I just hope bets are retractable half way through a fight!)
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
That little shitbags gonna come up John Holmes big for this fight and than in true Judah fashion in his next match he's gonna run around like some degenerate goofy azz gangster with shaved eye brows yo'ing this n' that and again when his stock is rising high he will fuk it up and plumet like the turd I launched down the pipes this morning :wc:
Cotto is mixing his punches well and has good enough timing to give me just what I want... ;D another Judah highlight clip :willydance:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4315/zabjudahag5.jpg
Even if he does show up big. So what!
Cotto has been rocked and dropped but..
The big BUT here is that Cotto has come back to win.
Cotto does not fall apart. He picks himself up, dusts himself off and goes right back to work.
A wreckless crowd pleasing Cotto get's in a jam but once some one knocks some sense into him, he comes back as Cotto the destroyer.
You think just because Zab gave the so called pound for pound chumpion a run for his money for 5 rounds that he will do the same with Cotto?
Cotto can finish any fighter off that Floyd has not been able to polish off with out going 12.
It will be the same with Zab down and out and crying in 6.
The excuses from the Floyd fans who are the ones that are picking Zab to win., will be the same old azz excuses they are already making such as what Zab will show up blah blah blah.
That was not Zab, that was his ugly twin brother etc.
A simple old azz Baldomir beat Zab. I thought you knew! The blue print on how to beat Zab has already been designed. Beating Zab will not be hard for Cotto unless Cotto chooses to make it hard for himself like he has in other fights just to please the crowd. Regardless, Cotto will win. How big? That all depends on what Cotto shows up. ;D
This ain't the Zab show. This is the Miguel Angel Cotto show!
:lickish:
And Zab will be at the Puerto Rican parade but not like Zab says or thinks.
Zab will be there running along the side holding Cotto's jockstrap screaming I am not worthy!
I am not worthy!
;D
SalTheButcher,
The offer still stands IF you wanna take my money.
Even bet, no bullsh!t straight up bet.
Get at me. :)
I certainly hope so.. I hate that little prik worse than you hate Floyd, but remember Daniel San This is a step up for Miguel, Zab will be the strongest, fastest and most athletic guy he has fought.. So as much as I would like to be as worry free and laid back as you are about it, but Judah is a legitimate threat to anyone at 147  ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
My first guess says that Cotto will win, but I have a strong feeling that Judah might take this one in an upset. Neither of these fighters really impress me though.
Let me just say this...I loathe Judah from the floor to the last folicle of hair on my head...I love Cotto the very same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
The thing is...Cotto has not faced any opponents on the same level as those that Judah has faced...nor has he faced anyone as fast or skilled as Judah.
Thinking along the lines that you think...well...that'll leave you broken hearted.
I can see it from two vantage points...Judah can win & Cotto can win...but both of them can lose.
If anything...Cotto has proven to be most hittable lately...Judah's got a lot more angles to toss at Cotto than Cotto does Judah.
Personally...I'd love to see Cotto blast him out...but I aint banking on it.
If Judah fights smart & not idiotic & Cotto fights instead of boxing...it could be a miserable night for Cotto fans.
The X-factor is that Cotto will connect sooner or later...but you can't hope for a knockout all night long if Judah is on point. The problem is...you can't look past your hate for Floyd to see that Cotto has a legit challenge ahead of him...also...this really REALLY has nothing to very little do with Floyd.
What happens if Judah comes in & outboxes Cotto? It's just as possible as Cotto coming in & blasting Judah out...isn't it?
Answer with your head & not your heart.
One day your'e gonna have to do that.
:coolclick: Unbiased. On point. Well said...on every single point.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
:coolclick: #2798 Wacks.... in addition to Mayweather and Delahoya I'm Really looking forward to this matchup
Thanks babe...totally agree...I can't wait for Oscar vs Floyd either. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Normally, you're on point, but I will have to respectfully state that it was a waste of a post. You could have summed it up simply as 'this is boxing and anything can happen!'Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Sorry babe...but everyone here knows that I aint short for words...Quote:
Originally Posted by MistaDibbs
Granted this is boxing...& anything can happen...but this is also a boxing forum...where everything can & will be said...thus the long winded diatribe.
If Danny G can blab...& he does...so can Wacko.
Again, I repeat: If Judah fights smart & not idiotic & Cotto fights instead of boxing...it could be a miserable night for Cotto fans.
That's 2 'IFs' too many ('IF Judah fights smart ...' and 'IF Cotto fights instead of boxing'). How about 'IF it wasn't Judah?' For such a former prospect, Judah is no stranger to a disappointing performance. He got careless against Tszyu, ran out of gas against Mayweather, Jr. and [insert any word that exemplifies confusion]ed against Baldomir. His last A game was against Spinks and only because it had taken 12 previous rounds to solve the 'Jinx.' Some say Cotto won't know what to do with somebody that is as fast as Judah, but Torres, Corley and Malignaggi were not slowpokes. Might I add that Baldomir and Tszyu were not speedbag artists. My point in all of this is that we all have favorites, but it is pointless to assume that a fan of a fighter is not using his heart when making his or her pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
hmmmmmm interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher