How Did Joe Walcott Land This Punch?

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Hi Thomas.

I see Walcott is holding his ground instead of sticking his left and moving away. (Is this counter his intention from the first frame?)

It looks like Joe paws with his left, which draws Rocky's own left hand. After Rocky has thrown his left, his left side his open! Walcott takes full advantage of this and lands a powerful short overhand right. What a bomb! ;D Rocky takes it full.

The answer is that Walcott drew Rocky's left which enabled him to followup with his best right hand.

Anyways, I read this aphorism by Charlie Goldman: "The punch you throw will take care of itself. It's the next one you gotta have ready."

you can see in the first photo how that punch was going to land .

You get a feeling of what's going to happen in that first frame, but if you know Walcott you wouldn't be sure if he was just trying to sucker you in to rip you with a sneak left hook, or something else. However, it sets it everything in motion.

Frame 1: Joe holds ground expecting Rocky to come forward.
Frame 2: Rocky closes the distance.
Frame 3: Joe's not telegraphing a left hook, but you can see he's already set to throw a right hand, and takes one of Rocky's punches, I can't tell if he's rolling with it or not, but he doesn't stop him.
Frame 4: Rocky's clearly open after he's thrown his left, and Walcott is ready to throw right hand counter.
Frame 5: He begins to throw his right, and Rocky doesn't have the time to stop it. Frame 6: Boom! That Hurt Rocky Big Time!

Here's a question for you, what's Walcott's left hand doing in the meantime?

Chris , dont try and teach your mother to suck eggs.

Scrap, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying sound like an expert or give advice. I may be shooting in the dark here, but at least I'm trying to make out what I'm seeing. I'll ask a question on what I don't understand.

No disrespect intended but maybe you can straighten this out with your expertise since you the trainer.

That sequence happened about 15-20 seconds into the second round. Very well fought fight from both men. Very high level of boxing there the real thing for sure.

Chris thats about what I got from it too. I find this pretty interesting for the very same reason that Joe probably did. That if you see a guy is bringing back his jab hand low you can stick him with a counter jab as he jabs to disrupt him enough to not notice the right hand that is coming in as he brings his arm back low.

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Originally Posted by Chris N.

Here's a question for you, what's Walcott's left hand doing in the meantime?

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heh. Well it looks like Joe wants that left hook doesn't it? Then again all right hands, if thrown properly, allow one to throw a left hook immediately after. I'd say it would be a fairly good idea in this case since Rocky's hand is in front of his face to block the counterjab which he always likes to do and it does definetly open him up for the left hook. Rocky actually gets knocked down in the 1st because joe sneaks a left hook behind that right glove as Rocky was jabbing.

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What a sneaky guy

That's great, least I wasn't trying to teach my grandmother to suck an egg. ;)

The thing I missed was that I wasn't sure what Walcott was doing with his left. I saw him jab but I figured he was trying to set him up with. Anyways you're right about the jab disrupting Rocky enough that Joe could bring his right it.

I wonder if Walcott picked up on that when he watched some of Rocky's older fights. If so it's a good idea to set them up if they have a tendancy like that. I gotta make a mental note on what makes these kind of setups work when I watch the films. Thanks Thomas, I'll check out that fight again and see what I can gather.

Anyway let Lords explain, He is an expert. Fair point.

I didn't know where he came from. I apologise, I guess I come off condescending a lot of times. By the way I wasn't trying to tell Lords Gyms anything, I just wanted to see what Thomas's take was.

Whats your take anyway Scrap?

If I remember Rocky the fiest round was trying to walk him down, Joe got his range first touch his glove to make the Rock think he was in distance. Bent the back knee made him reach and fired, Joe was good at that. Pressure and old age at the end of the day were too much. 6 years younger I feel a different ending.

I enjoyed everyones write up . nice screen shots ! 8) cc's

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Using the Marciano/Walcott fight to look at this one I can see much of it works on the same basis. Using a jab to disrupt the opponent from bringing his hand back which in this case sets up the over hand right.

The key points here is that Williams hand is extended which isn't much different than Marciano's extended left, which can lead to a counter as long as it's away.

Toney's jab is the second key point, as it disrupts Williams and allows a hard right hand to follow.

That's great, I should also note that this goes into Toney's style of counters, take his shoulder-roll counters for instance.

right on Chris. the jab is a crucial punch .. here it lands for Toney freezing his opponent momentarily allowing James to close the show with right hand. notice the perfect balance and leverage on the shot. a thing of beauty.

It is. :) I should've said it myself, Toney is in perfect position to throw a right hand, just like the Walcott/Marciano example.