Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
Who would win this rematch between Evans and Jeff?
In the Amateurs Lacy was KO'ed blank out in one round by Ashira.
Further Ashira defeated undefeated Smith in the pros (actually Ashira stopped Smith's pro time 21-1-1 with 14 KOs) (undefeated when Ashira defeated Smith), who had the edge over Lacy two out of three times in the amateurs, and most insiders also think that Lacy robbed Smith in the third fight and was given the Olympic Games spot....
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Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
Lacy is a has been and very over rated, He got a gift decision in his last fight against Tpylsko.
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
Who would win this rematch between Evans and Jeff?
In the Amateurs Lacy was KO'ed blank out in one round by Ashira.
Further Ashira defeated undefeated Smith in the pros (actually Ashira stopped Smith's pro time 21-1-1 with 14 KOs) (undefeated when Ashira defeated Smith), who had the edge over Lacy two out of three times in the amateurs, and most insiders also think that Lacy robbed Smith in the third fight and was given the Olympic Games spot....
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...04678_box3.jpg
That person punching Lacy must not be much of anything to even fight such an overrated fighter then :)
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Lacy is a has been and very over rated, He got a gift decision in his last fight against Tpylsko.
cc duke spot on!
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
I am a big fan of Robin Reid and just cannot stand the fact that Lacy beat him, stopped him and knocked him down 4 times.
If Reid does well in his comeback id like to see a rematch, it would be a good fight for both men, Lacy can fight someone he knows he can beat who has just made themselves viable again and Reid can erase the first fight against a fighter he knows his arch nemesis (Calzaghe) beat with ease.
Other than Eubank, Reid has been Joes hardest fight, in fact Reid has come closest to beating Joe, earning a split decision.
I dont really see Lacy doing anything now, anyone with desire will hurt him
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
does anyone know if lacy was actually sparked or was he just put down and stopped? cos i've seen some shocking and very questionable stoppages in the amateurs. plus lacy's style doesnt really suit the amatures much.
i know everyone is preeching that lacy was over rated all along, but i think he is quite underrated now. i still expect him to do alright. but he needs to sort his head out.
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
Who would win this rematch between Evans and Jeff?
In the Amateurs Lacy was KO'ed blank out in one round by Ashira.
Further Ashira defeated undefeated Smith in the pros (actually Ashira stopped Smith's pro time 21-1-1 with 14 KOs) (undefeated when Ashira defeated Smith), who had the edge over Lacy two out of three times in the amateurs, and most insiders also think that Lacy robbed Smith in the third fight and was given the Olympic Games spot....
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...04678_box3.jpg
Lacy would win and amateurs are totally different from pros as Henry Tillman found out vs Tyson.
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
Ams are completely different.I havent seen Evans so it would be hard to say.I'd go with Lacy on a focused day though.
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In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
Yep people seem to forget how well Lacy was doing until that injury and still managed to win and i see Ashira vs Calzaghe and he couldn't even take advantage of one handed Calzaghe Lacy wins by Tko.
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Lacy is a has been and very over rated, He got a gift decision in his last fight against Tpylsko.
Well, he fought on with a torn rotator cuff, which is allot more than I can say for other so called Emeritus Chumps in higher divisions. ;D
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
Yep people seem to forget how well Lacy was doing until that injury and still managed to win and i see Ashira vs Calzaghe and he couldn't even take advantage of one handed Calzaghe Lacy wins by Tko.
i was about to mention that he couldn't beat calzaghe when calzgahe had injured his hand.
i agree with you ice
lacy tko's him
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
Who would win this rematch between Evans and Jeff?
In the Amateurs Lacy was KO'ed blank out in one round by Ashira.
Further Ashira defeated undefeated Smith in the pros (actually Ashira stopped Smith's pro time 21-1-1 with 14 KOs) (undefeated when Ashira defeated Smith), who had the edge over Lacy two out of three times in the amateurs, and most insiders also think that Lacy robbed Smith in the third fight and was given the Olympic Games spot....
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...04678_box3.jpg
That person punching Lacy must not be much of anything to even fight such an overrated fighter then :)
Great Point CC Genius
Id take Lacy to stop him in 10
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
evans is to small to hurt Lacy, he would bully him around the ring and probably stop him mid rounds, Lacy did get a gift decision but he had a bad injury and the proof is that he hasnt fought since seven months later.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
does anyone know if lacy was actually sparked or was he just put down and stopped? cos i've seen some shocking and very questionable stoppages in the amateurs. plus lacy's style doesnt really suit the amatures much.
i know everyone is preeching that lacy was over rated all along, but i think he is quite underrated now. i still expect him to do alright. but he needs to sort his head out.
I think you're right, that if anything Lacy is probably underrated by now. It's just that at the time of the Calzaghe fight he was so hugely overrated that it's still difficult to find and settle at a realistic estimation of his potential.
I expect an injury free Lacy today is among the top 3-5 SMW's. As it stands i'd have Kessler, Calzaghe AND Mundine ahead. A guy like Bute could be close, but needs to prove it. That's it really. General talk today would suggest Lacy is completely done for and should hardly ever had been rated top 10. Don't agree with that.
I've certainly done my part of bashing Lacy. But keep in mind, that what i was objecting to was neither Lacy as a person/fighter or him being ranked inside top 5. What i was objecting to was the image portraid by some, that Lacy was a universally recognized no 1 at SMW untill Calzaghe got to him - that is the part that was IMO pure BS hype.
Ring mag had it pretty accurate from day one IMO (Lacy behind both Calzaghe and Kessler all the way).
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
yea he did, thats why I laugh at the ignorance, when people call him a has been and say he got a gift, when he basically fought 7 rounds without his left hand his money punch... Furthermore Tyspko was catching Lacy with the right hand over and over, because he couldnt effectively defend with his left... he has had surgery and they say the injury might be career threatening :-\
Again Jeff fought with tremendous pain and one arm for 7 rounds
Show me a Boxer in the game today that has exhibited as much heart as Jeff Lacy besides Evander Holyfield ;)
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
yea he did, thats why I laugh at the ignorance, when people call him a has been and say he got a gift, when he basically fought 7 rounds without his left hand his money punch... Furthermore Tyspko was catching Lacy with the right hand over and over, because he couldnt effectively defend with his left... he has had surgery and they say the injury might be career threatening :-\
Again Jeff fought with tremendous pain and one arm for 7 rounds
Show me a Boxer in the game today that has exhibited as much heart as Jeff Lacy besides Evander Holyfield ;)
Diego Corrales 8)
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
yea he did, thats why I laugh at the ignorance, when people call him a has been and say he got a gift, when he basically fought 7 rounds without his left hand his money punch... Furthermore Tyspko was catching Lacy with the right hand over and over, because he couldnt effectively defend with his left...  he has had surgery and they say the injury might be career threatening  :-\
Again Jeff fought with tremendous pain and one arm for 7 rounds
Show me a Boxer in the game today that has exhibited as much heart as Jeff Lacy besides Evander Holyfield   ;)
Diego Corrales  8)
Nice choice...... :coolclick:# 785 Diego is a fav of mine, suprised I didnt think of him..... Its just a rotator tear to a Boxer is like a Hamstring tear to a marathon runner... Now imagine you keep running another 15 miles and finish the race  ;)   
Re: Jeff Lacy vs. Evans Ashira!!!!
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Starr
In Lacy's last fight didnt he have a torn rotator cuff ???
yea he did, thats why I laugh at the ignorance, when people call him a has been and say he got a gift, when he basically fought 7 rounds without his left hand his money punch... Furthermore Tyspko was catching Lacy with the right hand over and over, because he couldnt effectively defend with his left... he has had surgery and they say the injury might be career threatening :-\
Again Jeff fought with tremendous pain and one arm for 7 rounds
Show me a Boxer in the game today that has exhibited as much heart as Jeff Lacy besides Evander Holyfield ;)
Diego Corrales 8)
Nice choice...... :coolclick:# 785 Diego is a fav of mine, suprised I didnt think of him..... Its just a rotator tear to a Boxer is like a Hamstring tear to a marathon runner... Now imagine you keep running another 15 miles and finish the race ;)
:coolclick: back and agree with what you said im not Lacy hater at all people always forget that he had bad injury in that Tsypko fight and still managed to win against tough hungry fighter.
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
does anyone know if lacy was actually sparked or was he just put down and stopped? cos i've seen some shocking and very questionable stoppages in the amateurs. plus lacy's style doesnt really suit the amatures much.
i know everyone is preeching that lacy was over rated all along, but i think he is quite underrated now. i still expect him to do alright. but he needs to sort his head out.
I think you're right, that if anything Lacy is probably underrated by now. It's just that at the time of the Calzaghe fight he was so hugely overrated that it's still difficult to find and settle at a realistic estimation of his potential.
I expect an injury free Lacy today is among the top 3-5 SMW's. As it stands i'd have Kessler, Calzaghe AND Mundine ahead. A guy like Bute could be close, but needs to prove it. That's it really. General talk today would suggest Lacy is completely done for and should hardly ever had been rated top 10. Don't agree with that.
I've certainly done my part of bashing Lacy. But keep in mind, that what i was objecting to was neither Lacy as a person/fighter or him being ranked inside top 5. What i was objecting to was the image portraid by some, that Lacy was a universally recognized no 1 at SMW untill Calzaghe got to him - that is the part that was IMO pure BS hype.
Ring mag had it pretty accurate from day one IMO (Lacy behind both Calzaghe and Kessler all the way).
Being a huge Lacy fan, I guess in hindsight I could agree with that at the moment..... The problem is the Tyspko fight didt give us an indepth look into Jeff to see if he made any improvements with his Boxing Skill or defense... He was owning Tyspko until the 3rd round when he got injured, and basically went into survival mode and gutted out a win with little or no use of the left, offenively or defensevily.
