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roach-out to burst mayweather bubble
Many superlatives have been used to describe Floyd Mayweather in recent years.
But you won't hear any of them coming from the mouth of Freddie Roach.
A two-time Trainer of the Year and one of the most respected handlers in the sport, the 47-year-old Roach is the man tasked with plotting the downfall of the 'Pretty Boy' in Las Vegas on May 5.
And he believes his charge Oscar De La Hoya has what it takes to puncture Mayweather's perfect 37-0 record when they clash for the WBC world light-middleweight crown.
As he prepared the 'Golden Boy' for his date with destiny at the MGM Grand, he spoke exclusively to us about his man, Floyd and their eagerly-awaited showdown.
"Mayweather is a good fighter, a good boxer. But he's not a great finisher. He's a good boxer who I would liken to somebody like Willie Pep.
"He's had a couple of boring fights and I'm not that impressed with some of the opponents.
"Baldomir for example is a club fighter. He's a nice guy but he's not a great fighter. And Zab Judah as well.
"Floyd looked good against Gatti but he was made for him. Anybody who was betting on Gatti that night was betting with his heart and not his head."
The Las Vegas superfight pits not only the sport's biggest names, but also two of its most talented boxers. And Ricky Hatton for one said recently the match-up could be more chess than boxing.
Roach though knows Oscar can't sit back and expect to outpoint the lightning-quick Mayweather, and says his man will take risks in a bid to control the fight.
"We have to take risks. We have to be a little bit more aggressive than normal. We have to cut the ring down. He's a mover, he's not going to stand in front of us.
"We will be more aggressive than normal. I'm a more aggressive trainer than Floyd Mayweather Sr, who's more defensive."
"The thing is we have to control the ring. Control the ring, control the fight.
"We won't follow him around though. If you do that he sets you up to walk into shots. We need to make the ring smaller.
"There are definitely things we can exploit. It's not perfected yet but we're working on it.
"Mayweather makes mistakes but gets himself out of it with his speed. But it's all about timing. It's all about catching him at the right time.
One advantage De Le Hoya will definitely have is size - he's used to fighting at light-middle while Mayweather is moving up from welterweight.
Roach says: "I believe we have to use our physical strength and power and we have to let Floyd know he's in a real fight right from the off.
"While we'll be aggressive it's not a case of me telling Oscar to go in there and drop his hands. But I've told him if he wants to trade left hooks with Mayweather I'm more than happy because we have the better left hook.
One question mark over De La Hoya is stamina - in two defeats by Shane Mosley and one by Felix Trinidad he appeared to run out of gas in the latter stages and crucially allowed his opponent to take the initiative.
But Roach feels there won't be a repeat when his man goes at it with Mayweather.
"I was wondering about that when I came into camp, it's one of the first questions I wanted to answer and I think I've put my finger on it. I think he'd left too much in the gym and had done too much roadwork. So I've cut his roadwork down and it's really worked out great. I'm really pleased with the way everything has gone."
Mosley, twice a conqueror of De La Hoya and now part of his Golden Boy Promotions empire, has been in camp helping his old adversary prepare for the bout. And he's the perfect man to play Mayweather in the pre-fight tune-ups.
"We're sparring 10 rounds this afternoon with Shane Mosley, who has been a real asset here. He's about as fast as anybody you could have," said Roach.
The May 5 showdown on the Las Vegas Strip will cement the legacy of one of these two fighters.
And for Roach it's an unexpected opportunity to work with one of the sport's greatest talents in recent years.
He was the man chosen to step into the breach when Oscar parted company with Floyd Mayweather Sr (father of the 'Pretty Boy').
And having lived, worked and plotted with De La Hoya during recent weeks at their training camp in Puerto Rico, Roach has nothing but admiration for his new star pupil.
"I really didn't know him before this, I'd met him casually. His work ethic is great, you couldn't ask for a better student.
"Everything has been just like he told me it would be. Like I said, his work ethic and his discipline are great."
One feature of the build-up to this fascinating showdown is the trash talk Mayweather dished out when the fighters went on a country-wide promotional tour.
But Roach believes Floyd's motormouth could work against him when he gets into the ring.
He says the insults and disrespect have stoked a burning fire in the belly of an opponent who is now 34 and has more than $100million in the bank.
"I think Oscar really did need that. Floyd got under Oscar's skin a little bit. It made him train harder than he has for any other fight."
Roach gave up a lot to prepare De La Hoya for this moment - namely five world title fights including Manny Pacquiao's win over Jorge Solis and Peter Manfredo's Cardiff defeat at the hands of Joe Calzaghe.
And he hasn't come all this way to lose.
"It looks like it's going to be the biggest fight in history. It's been a great experience for me being in a great camp and working with Oscar.
"I had to give up five world title fights to do this, it was a tough decision to make. But sometimes in life you have to make those decisions.
"It's a must-win situation for me now."
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Now we know what Oscar is going to do with all that pent up sexual deprivation.
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CC dezmundo1983. I did not see this post earlier. My bad. Thanks for pointing it out.
Peace.
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Now we know what Oscar is going to do with all that pent up sexual deprivation.
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What is it with all the talk about oscar being gay?! he aint gay, and even if he is hes a dam good fighter so what does it matter?
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I never said he was gay but I think he likes to do pretty boys.
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Yo Dezmundo,when you print an article,please make sure you have the direct link to it too.
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i keep giin delahoya more of a chance to win this
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I stick with mayweather winning
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"Mayweather is a good fighter, a good boxer. But he's not a great finisher. He's a good boxer who I would liken to somebody like Willie Pep.
I like how Roach compares Floyd to Willie Pep..... as if that's a bad thing. Pep is one of the all-time greats.
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Was Roach insinuating that Zab Judah is a club fighter? If so, I'll have to STRONGLY disagree with him.
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
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So Roach wants to burst Mayweathers bubble.
Well he's doing a good job keeping oscar from bursting his :-X
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I never said he was gay but I think he likes to do pretty boys.
They say Emile Griffith was fond of the gent's....If that was true all I can say is...He may be gay but he sure as hell wasn't no sissy
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Was Roach insinuating that Zab Judah is a club fighter? If so, I'll have to STRONGLY disagree with him.
YEA HES NOT THAT GOOD HAHA
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Danny i think its more of a case that DLH has a fuckin hot as hell wife and a countries worth of money and well.....you dont hahaha
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I don't think that Roach has what it takes to make a whole turnaround and make DLH beat Floyd but he will come in handy if Oscar decides to fight Floyd like Castillo did.
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I don't think that Roach has what it takes to make a whole turnaround and make DLH beat Floyd but he will come in handy if Oscar decides to fight Floyd like Castillo did.
Roach is the best trainer around. He has trained some of the best ever to tape up an strap em on. And a turn around from what. His last fight I belive was Carlos Meyorga. That was a knock out.
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I don't think that Roach has what it takes to make a whole turnaround and make DLH beat Floyd but he will come in handy if Oscar decides to fight Floyd like Castillo did.
Roach is the best trainer around. He has trained some of the best ever to tape up an strap em on. And a turn around from what. His last fight I belive was Carlos Meyorga. That was a knock out.
Roach is one of the best trainers, but Oscar's win against Mayorga was less than impressive. If you can't beat a guy who is made for you, you should quit boxing. Getting the KO was a nice touch agreed, but whoever bet on Mayorga needs their head checked.
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I don't think that Roach has what it takes to make a whole turnaround and make DLH beat Floyd but he will come in handy if Oscar decides to fight Floyd like Castillo did.
Roach is the best trainer around. He has trained some of the best ever to tape up an strap em on. And a turn around from what. His last fight I belive was Carlos Meyorga. That was a knock out.
Roach is one of the best trainers, but Oscar's win against Mayorga was less than impressive. If you can't beat a guy who is made for you, you should quit boxing. Getting the KO was a nice touch agreed, but whoever bet on Mayorga needs their head checked.
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Cant sleep.......watching the De La Hoya Fernando Vargas fight rerun on hbo.
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Everyone should have known that he was going to beat Mayorga but there were more than a few saying that DLH was going to get beat
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Now we know what Oscar is going to do with all that pent up sexual deprivation.
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What is it with all the talk about oscar being gay?! he aint gay, and even if he is hes a dam good fighter so what does it matter?
wow.....why does this even come into question?.....if a guys a rapist, convict or drug dealer/addict does it affect his fighting?...boxing has had plenty of people that are different.......honestly....the h8ers need to back off....
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
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I don't think that Roach has what it takes to make a whole turnaround and make DLH beat Floyd but he will come in handy if Oscar decides to fight Floyd like Castillo did.
Roach is the best trainer around. He has trained some of the best ever to tape up an strap em on. And a turn around from what. His last fight I belive was Carlos Meyorga. That was a knock out.
I must have missed the Carlos Meyorga fight?? ???
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
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Do people think Roach is going to "teach" De la Hoya a ton of new stuff? Roach is there to motivate. Oscar has been in the game long enough to know what he needs to do. He simply needed a trainer who was going to keep him sharp and NOT be a distraction....like Floyd Sr.
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
dominated???? maybe some would agree with me with this, but i really think that to dominate a fight,you should really fight not run.. do you think floyd fought with his heart?in all of his 37 fights he only had one rematch.. he rematched castillo coz he knows that castillo beat him.. and how many fights did he fight standing and throwing and not running??? for most of us here, we know that pbf doesnt deserve that p4p coz he never dominated.. he never stayed in one division fighting the best there is and then move on.. hes a multi weight champ.. but he never stayed in a weight class too long for somebody better to see his bum to the canvas..
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
if you like finesse why dont you try figure skating. do you find finesse when somebody is out there to punch somebody in the head???
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
if you like finesse why dont you try figure skating. do you find finesse when somebody is out there to punch somebody in the head???
Would you say that Willie Pep fought like a girl?
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
if you like finesse why dont you try figure skating. do you find finesse when somebody is out there to punch somebody in the head???
Would you say that Willie Pep fought like a girl?
do you see his name in any of my posts? we are talking about mayweather here and you say boxing is finding a way to win based your strengths and your opponents weaknesses. i agree with that. im only saying that mayweather's strength is running away from his opponent and his opponents weakness is failing to catch him.
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
if you like finesse why dont you try figure skating. do you find finesse when somebody is out there to punch somebody in the head???
Would you say that Willie Pep fought like a girl?
do you see his name in any of my posts? we are talking about mayweather here and you say boxing is finding a way to win based your strengths and your opponents weaknesses. i agree with that. im only saying that mayweather's strength is running away from his opponent and his opponents weakness is failing to catch him.
OK, and of all the fighters in history, Willie Pep is probably the closest to Mayweather in terms of style. Their fight strategies were very similar. So if you think Floyd fights like a girl, then I assume you think Pep did as well.
If you don't feel the same way about Pep, then I'd be interested to hear what the differences were.
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There is no way that Roach can teach DLH how to beat Mayweather.
of course.. like theres no way roach could teach a left handed happy pacman too throw a hell of a right hook and right uppercut..
exactly....good post....
Yet he can't teach a guy to stop lunging and bouncing into punches.
thats funny... roger mayweather cant teach floyd to fight like a man
Thats funny...he is undefeated...a multi-weight champ...p4p #1(has been on the p4p list for almost 10 years)...dominated nearly every opponent...lifetime record sits at 121-6...BUT like you said...he obviously fights like a girl.Just ask the 37 opponents and Oscar on May 5th.
Olympian, don't waste your time and energy in this type of argument. Trust me, I've tried many times as well. There are people on this board who will never grasp the fact that boxing isn't about standing flat-footed and trading big shots, it's about finding a way to win based on your strengths and your opponent's weaknesses.
Some people will always label finesse boxing as "fighting like a girl." They're the ones missing out.
This guy probably thinks Willie Pep fought like a girl too.
if you like finesse why dont you try figure skating. do you find finesse when somebody is out there to punch somebody in the head???
Would you say that Willie Pep fought like a girl?
do you see his name in any of my posts? we are talking about mayweather here and you say boxing is finding a way to win based your strengths and your opponents weaknesses. i agree with that. im only saying that mayweather's strength is running away from his opponent and his opponents weakness is failing to catch him.
Can't agree with that. Floyd has won alot of fights in the pocket. Alot of those close exchanges between Castillo and Floyd, Castillo got the worse of it, just look at his face. Mayweather can fight inside as good as anyone, but he can use his legs to create space, so when you walk straight in, he can time you and get extra leverage on his punches.
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Given all of Floyds boxing accomplishments...you still dont give him credit?From what I'm hearing is that any boxer who moves...is fighting like a girl.Wow.As for Floyd moving up in weight...its part of boxing!So what if he doesnt stay at the same weight??Someone answer this question...if Floyd hasnt fought any great fighters...name a great fighter that he can fight?
