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He took flush shots off Gary Mason who had W 37 (34 ko's) flush shots off Tony Tucker flush shots off Tua same with Bruno and Vitali i don't know why some people think he has glass chin all guys i just mentioned could all hit very hard im no big fan of Lewis but to say his chin is weak is underrating his chin imo.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Even Chuvalho would've got koed by the 2 punches that dropped Lewis ;)
I don't think Lewis had a GREAT chin, but he didn't have a weak chin either. I'd say his chin was above-average.
He got caught by two perfectly-timed punches, and he was also clearly out-of-shape and unfocused for the first Rahman fight.
In my opinion...Yes..Lennox's chin was HIGHLY underrated..
I dont get why they say oh Lewis had a china chin..
Lets see...Yeh he was knocked out in both his only losses...
But thats not the fact that he had a glass jaw..
Seems some people just cant understand..I mean look at the first Rahman fight..
You gotta understand..Good chin or no chin..When you a heavyweight, you move backwards with your hands down.. And you get caught by a big ol dude right on the sweetspot.. You gona get sparked..
Cc for the topic!
Off that mentioned group only Tua and Klitchko were big punchers.
Mason was a solid heavyweigt but not a massive puncher(against his fellow countrymen he was awesome at sometimes)
Tucker on the downslide of his career, not known as a kayo puncher.
And Big Frank had power but only one at a time
When Lewis was not motivated he could be knocked out by a fairy.
Prpperly trained he could take a whack at the whiskers
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Lewis had a good chin but there were times when he would get comfortable and get caught (a la "Rock") I don't think his chin was glass by any means but his defense was suspect.
I think Lewis said it himself once.."This is the hevyweight division anybody can get knocked out if they are caught"
Don't remember if those were his exact words but the point is. When you are fighting guys who weigh over 220 pounds, you better alwais be on your toes, because it only takes one good shot.
My opinion is, he did not have a glass chin. He just was not 100% focussed as he should have been in a HW title fight.
Lewis has taken flush shots from some of the biggest hitters in heavyweight history and just shook them off
He has a great chin , just ask Tyson , Vitali , Tua , Rudduck , Bruno etc
I questioned his chin for awhile. He always looked like he got wobbled, but he's just a little akward when he rolls with punches. He has been rocked a few times, when his heavy hands made up for it. After I saw an old, out of shape(miserably), Lewis take every shot in Vitali's arsenal, and walk right through it, I have to say I was impressed.
Chin- not the best by far, but definately not glass.
Lewis had the best chin out of the Heavies. He only got counted out once in his whole career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SQmxIP5Bk
To be fair
Both of the fighters that one punch knocked him out,were undersized,and not exactly known for their one punch power
I've heard that Lennox's chin was glass and I've even said myself. But really, it wasn't. Lennox never had an iron chin, but it was solid, he just got caught with two perfect punches and then avenged both those losses. Bruno shook him up, Briggs really wobbled him, but he didn't go down and he ended up stopping both those guys. I'm still wondering if Lennox was/is gay or what the deal is. I know he got married recently but still... :cwm13: ???
Yes. He took allot of shots from Ray Mercer in a bout that I thought that he lost. Getting KO'd by McCall, and the perfect right hand that Rahman hit him with would have KO'd most HW's - it's certainly nothing to be ashamed about.
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Lennox had a good chin ive said this before it was definately underrated
His chin is very underrated he has only been ko'ed once... That McCall bs doesn't count.
No he got sparked Twice ::**
In the Rahman fight he was ko'd good and proper he could'nt beat the count in the McCall fight he was stopped on his feet but he was still stopped but 2 stoppage defeats does'nt mean he had a bad chin he had a good chin and also showed great character in defeating the fighters who defeated him
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CC#813 for the topic....I argued with a guy at work about this for 2 days once...He swore Lewis was glass jawed....When truth is he got decked by not only 2 prime heavyweights'....but 2 known for punching power.....
And when you look at the punches that KO'd him from both Rahman and McCall they were not just hard they were friken Career making Shots....Not to mention Lewis was out of shape for both fights....He was gassed by the time Rahman caught him...He had not trained the last 2-3 weeks before the fight and came to SA like 3 days prior to the fight not giving himself a chance to adjust to the altitude so he could film a scene with Wlad Klitschko in Oceans 11...and at the time he lost to McCall Oliver was highly regarded.....
Lewis had a good chin over all..not great but not soft either
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Lennox is a Hall of fame fighter with one of the best right hands in the business. His chin is not great but not terrible. I think Hearns had a little better chin but they are comparable. Two guys who get relaxed.
Hearns chin wasn't as good as Lewis's chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
With hindsight Lewis had a good chin, and was a better fighter than some thought me included
Hearns went to war more than Lennox and in my mind and he took better shots and had more confidence than Lennox. Just the way he fought makes me think that he thought he could take the punches. Lennox always sort of jabbed and leaned back and then threw the right almost as though he were afraid of the counter coming his way. And his foot positioning was terrible, whereas Tommy had better foot movement prior to 160 pounds. I think Lennox's style was more a safety first style to protect his chin and he did a good job not getting hit, but Tommy tried more to make fights exciting. So what might look like a weaker chin might be a guy who tried to excite the fans more. Tommy also went punch for punch with Hagler. as well as Iran Barkley and others like Delgado.. Dewiit. etc. Alot of people just know Hearns from his big fights. He had alot of smaller fights where he took punches.
Yes he went punch for punch with Hagler but Hagler was never one punch ko sort of fighter he used to wear you down with his short jolting punches like he did with Mugabi and Hearns was stopped early anyway and he didn't go punch for punch with Barkley he stayed on outside and was giving Barkley a beating and when Barkley landed his only good punch in that fight Hearns was down and i remember him being wobbled quite bad from that other guy it was before Barkley fight can't remember his name but i think Hearns has ton of heart but i think real problem is his weak legs thats what lets him down but in chin terms Lewis has better one he took flush shots of Gary Mason who had excellent ko record of 35 wins and 32 kos if i remember right also took flush shots of David Tua Ray Mercer Vitali Shannon Briggs Frank Bruno Evander Holyfield and Tony Tucker all good hw punchers im sorry im big fan of Tommy but in chin terms Lewis has better one.Quote:
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Hearns got badly wobbled by James Kinchen for what i believe was a wbo titlefight.
He held on to Kinchen like a guy keeping a firm grab on his date for promnight
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I agree but pound for pound Lennox right wasn't as devestating as Tommy's,,,,
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hearns was also past his prime and 2 weight classes above his natural weightQuote:
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Problem with comparing a guy like Hearns who fought at 7 divisions and Lennox who fought at one division when he was huge-heavyweight it is easier for a guy with the size of Lennox 245-250 to defensively be stronger just because he is bigger. Just like saying, well if a 175 pound Tommy Hearns fought middleweights his whole career would he be able to take the punches better? I think Hearns took more clean shots punch for punch than Lennox and this is why he will be remembered more fondly than Lennox will. Lennox will be remembered for the Tyson fight and having a good right hand, yet Tyson was finished when Lennox beat him. Lennox never took many clean shots and neither did Tommy. But Lennox did the same thing Hearns did defensively, he leaned back and was hit moving back which made the punches look hard like in the Tua fight. But I just think Hearns had a better chin during exchanges against top notch guys who were his weight and size which is why the result of his fights are more exciting and entertaining. Lennox never really took the chance. The fact Tommy had exciting fights is not because he was not hit. Yet Lennox really was never in a great shootout. Vitali and Lennox was more give and take in rhythm, but not exchanges. As far as Heavyweight, Lennox was always bigger and he was the first of the huge heavyweights who use their power before they get hit with power, and usually he won out or guys really could not get close to him since he had that hammer of a right hand. Tua didn't want to get hit so he stayed back. . Offense being a good defense. I just think Hearns did pretty well considering he was always moving up in weight and was only stopped 3 times out of 67 fights. And the opposition which stopped him was great except for Barkley. Lennox was stopped by Rahman and McCall. Do I think Lennox had a terrible chin? No, just if a person hit him square he might have gone. He just had a good sense of staying away from exchanges.