Freddie Roach the TRUE CHAMPION of the HBO 24/7 Series in My Eyes!!!!!!!!!

After watching the first two episodes of HBO's Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr 24/7 I would have to be so bold as to give my personal opinion on who is the real star and "champ" in my eyes of this reality show that HBO so cleverly produced.

You see we all know Floyd Mayweather Jr is clearly acting as he himself admits in his own words that there can not be two good guys in this so he chose to be the bad guy, the villain. So he for the two past episodes has turned up the FLOSSIN, cockiness, arrogance, the sh*t talking up to full blast for the cameras. All he has been doing is being quite obnoxious in dissing Oscar and attacking him verbally as much as possible. Generations ago when Ali was the best heavyweight and even the best pound for pound he too taunted, ridiculed the hell out of his opponents. But Ali did it in a smooth, charming, clever way that made you want to see just what can this brilliant man come up with next to say. Floyd on the other hand lacks that natural gift and personality if you will that Ali so gracefully displayed. Ali went down in history as not only one of the greatest fighters ever but one of the greatest, most influential leaders, who inspired millions in his generation and millions more today. I am pretty sure that Floyd Mayweather Jr when looked at from many generations later would not be seen in the same light as Ali was and still is today. Now I do give Floyd props for at times in the 2nd episode of 24/7 keeping it real and humbling enough to show where he came from and admit he had it rough for never having a mother or father figure in his childhood. It was also even interesting to see how his family gatherings would consist of boxing matches in their backyard from his little cousins to even his female relatives lacing up the gloves. All these more humble and REAL moments unfortunately are overshadowed by his overly flossin and playing for the camera with hanging out with 50cent in his entourage.

Now Oscar De La Hoya on the other hand is fake for the complete opposite reason Floyd is. Oscar pretends to be the "good guy". He tries so hard to play off this clean cut, PC, Pop Star image in front of the cameras. By trying to appear to be this wholesome family man whos now married with legitimate children. He tries so hard to never cuss or even talk trash while the cameras are rolling. But more intelligent fans of the sport can see right thru this and would wish Oscar for once would be more REAL and genuine since it is after all supposed to be a reality show as HBO described it. Why hasn't Oscar kept it more real and expressed his many frustrations with the sport and all the BS and politics he himself has been thru? Why hasn't he talked about the shady decisions he had to endure? The tension he has with promoters like Arum who yes helped mold him into the superstar who he is today, but who he could not care for much at the moment. Why won't he pay Sugar Shane Mosely a dime for sparring with him and probably being the best and smartest asset to him in his training camp sessions? I would also hope to believe he was not so cheap that he gave his wife Millie only a cake for her bday as the footage implies? Why doesnt he fire back at Floyd Mayweather Jr when he is so called out in front of all his fans at the various press conferences? Or atleast come back with a clever rebuttal? Is he more concerned about this fake, clean cut, wholesome, Pop Star image he wants to uphold just in case he loses his cool and says or does the wrong thing with the cameras rolling? Is Oscar planning on running for office later? I would not be shocked if he is trying to uphold this fake politician like image?

Then we come to the real star and the real champ in my eyes of the HBO 24/7 series and that is in my opinion Freddie Roach! Freddie Roach, trainer of the year yet again and now the current trainer for Oscar De La Hoya for his fight with Mayweather has to be the only one in my eyes who is keeping it REAL! From the 24/7 series we see the true character/personality of Freddie Roach and I could not be more happier that finally a great man has finally got his due/exposure/recognition. We all know Roach is battling Parkinson’s as he admits in the 24/7 Series. But what some of us may not have known was how hard he trains every day with his fighters to combat and fight off the Parkinson’s. I was most inspired by Roach by what I saw in the episode 2 on how hard he trains even with the trembling and shaking that he can not control through out his body. Oscar said it best when he said Roach even out lasts his fighters when it comes to training. Even more so Roach's personality is top notch. He does not once complain or seem even negative about his battle with Parkinson’s he acts as if it does not even exist. Out of the two men in the 24/7 series who I am supposed to be inspired from I am not inspired at all, but instead I am truly inspired by Freddie Roach.

I personally have had the honorable pleasure of meeting Freddie Roach at his famous Wild Card gym on one of my past business trips to the LA area. Even though at the time this may have been the most important training camp for his most hottest fighter for their most career defining fight(Pacquiao vs Morales III), Freddie Roach did not crack under the pressure or stress. He was as calm and focused as a man can be in his shoes. I was watching the Destroyer destroy his sparring partners when all of a sudden Freddie looks at me and calls me over to him. Now I don't quite recall why exactly he called me over to him, but next thing you know he's interrupting his trainers to ask them if they could please take a picture of me and him. I could not believe how much of a nice genuine class act this man was? He then took the time to answer ALL of the questions I had for him, Pacquiao, and the up coming match with Morales. I even remember jokingly telling him that if Morales is not able to make weight that you guys should throw MAB in as a last minute replacement. But what was funny is I did not say Marco Antonio Barrera but I said MAB. So he took a couple seconds to realize that MAB is Marco Antonio Barrera and then he replied back to me on the matter. ;D

While hanging out with Freddie Roach I unfortunately saw all of the trembling and shaking going on through out his body. To be honest I thought at the time his body was weak and frail. But then seeing how hard he trains every day with his fighters and to see how much he gives it 24/7 makes me realize that I was wrong. Roach is by no means weak and frail. Roach is stronger and faster than alot of the common folk out there who do not have a disease like Parkinson’s. Roach has the heart, mind, soul, determination, blood sweat and tears of a true champion!

In a time where the sport of boxing lacks so many stars and champions who can inspire us. I found the one man in the sport who does inspire me and that is FREDDIE ROACH!

and yes again my friends this has been REEEEEEAAAAAAL TALK!

Indeed that was quite inspiring story mate. ;)

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Indeed that was quite inspiring story mate. ;)

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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Indeed that was quite inspiring story mate. ;)

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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wish I could have seen him on HBO.....this was a great read!!

Great article you wrote there,didn't think you had something like this in you...
Thanx alot and CC...

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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wish I could have seen him on HBO.....this was a great read!!

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Heres the HBO Episode ;)

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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wish I could have seen him on HBO.....this was a great read!!

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Heres the HBO Episode ;)

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Indeed that was quite inspiring story mate. ;)

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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wish I could have seen him on HBO.....this was a great read!!

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CC#273 bro! thanks i appreciate it :)

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Great article you wrote there,didn't think you had something like this in you...
Thanx alot and CC...

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bro im alot more deeper and passionate than meets the eye! i just dont have much time between work/business/training/sparring/traveling to write as deep and such i wish i did. ;)

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bro im alot more deeper and passionate than meets the eye! i just dont have much time between work/business/training/sparring/traveling to write as deep and such i wish i did. ;)

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Seems so...hollaaaaaaaaaaaar... ;D

There's something inherently likeable about his personailty.
Everything from watching him train with Oscar, or therapeutically working himself out, or even talking about losing Oscar's wedding ring! Something about his character is really really likeable.
Awesome that you got a chance to meet him.

Sounds like I'm writing a eulogy or something here!
"cc Good write-up!" is what I'm getting at

:coolclick: Excellent assestment. Totally agree about Roach. Wish I had the same oppurtunity to meet him. Maybe one day. The man is a class act from what I've seen. I watched a special about female boxers a few years back. The story focused alot on Lucia Rijker, who was trained by Roach at the time. All of his fighters, lived in the same house. Among some of the more famous was James Toney. Roach truly cared for his fighters. Even showed him cooking for them (maybe 8 in all). From what the fighters were saying (especially Toney and Rijker), was that they were all family, and from what was showed, it was clearly because of Roach. At the time, he hadn't been diagnosed with parkinsons, or at least it hadn't been released to the media. Although I'll be rooting against his fighter, I wish him all the luck and support in his personal battles. God Bless Freddy.

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There's something inherently likeable about his personailty.
Everything from watching him train with Oscar, or therapeutically working himself out, or even talking about losing Oscar's wedding ring! Something about his character is really really likeable.
Awesome that you got a chance to meet him.

Sounds like I'm writing a eulogy or something here!
"cc Good write-up!" is what I'm getting at

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i couldnt have said it better than you just did bro! :appl:

CC# 145 Meowza by the way bro!

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CC number 10 bro! thanks for seeing what I saw myself bro :)

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wish I could have seen him on HBO.....this was a great read!!

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Heres the HBO Episode ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg563875

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Try here. ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,46246.0.html

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:coolclick: Excellent assestment. Totally agree about Roach. Wish I had the same oppurtunity to meet him. Maybe one day. The man is a class act from what I've seen. I watched a special about female boxers a few years back. The story focused alot on Lucia Rijker, who was trained by Roach at the time. All of his fighters, lived in the same house. Among some of the more famous was James Toney. Roach truly cared for his fighters. Even showed him cooking for them (maybe 8 in all). From what the fighters were saying (especially Toney and Rijker), was that they were all family, and from what was showed, it was clearly because of Roach. At the time, he hadn't been diagnosed with parkinsons, or at least it hadn't been released to the media. Although I'll be rooting against his fighter, I wish him all the luck and support in his personal battles. God Bless Freddy.

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CC #97 bro! yeah i see the genuine care he has that you mentioned for his fighters.

i too will be rooting against his fighter :P

but im just so glad hes getting the love/props and CHA-CHING he deserves finally! i love see good things happening to good people :)

hey everyones been Cool Clicked! thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts with me :)

some other funny stories from that day at the Wild Card Gym.

I asked first Pac Man himself what round i should put all my money on and he just laughed and didnt give me answer

Then I asked famed financial advisor legend: Shelly Finkel, hey since you are the financial advisor genious to all of the legends give me some financial advice which round should i put all my money on? He laughed and said oh I would not even know where to begin with that question.

then I asked Freddie Roach the same question and he said: ummmmmm put your money down on round 9!

hahaha. Freddie was fully confident that Pac Man could close the show by round 9!

Good thing I didnt listen to him literally cause we all know Pac closed the show 6rounds earlier that night ;)

So yeah I think Freddie was even shocked to see it end that early seeing that he told me round 9 ;D

I agree. O0 Freddie Roach is awesome and I never knew up until watching episode 2 of the Delahoya/Mayweather show that he has Parkinsons and was as amazed as everyone else should be by watching his work ethic and watching him hang in training with a top calibre athlete like Delahoya (and undoubtedly other great champions that come from his stable). He does come across as the most real and the most down to earth.

I think it's the old time boxing trainers that have always been more interesting and fascinating than the fighters themselves and it shows in this series; which by the way, i have to say, I really like and hope that HBO uses the idea again in upcoming fights because it really is a great show I think, in how it shows us a look behind the scenes and a little bit more into the figures taking part in a historic megafight like this. Roger Mayweather, in my opinion, is also very fascinating to listen to, in his interviews. That guy definitely keeps it real too. But Roach seems like a genuine down to earth, really well mannered and good guy. I wish him the best of luck in his fight against Parkinsons; he is already the greatest boxing trainer in the game today.

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I agree. O0 Freddie Roach is awesome and I never knew up until watching episode 2 of the Delahoya/Mayweather show that he has Parkinsons and was as amazed as everyone else should be by watching his work ethic and watching him hang in training with a top calibre athlete like Delahoya (and undoubtedly other great champions that come from his stable). He does come across as the most real and the most down to earth.

I think it's the old time boxing trainers that have always been more interesting and fascinating than the fighters themselves and it shows in this series; which by the way, i have to say, I really like and hope that HBO uses the idea again in upcoming fights because it really is a great show I think, in how it shows us a look behind the scenes and a little bit more into the figures taking part in a historic megafight like this. Roger Mayweather, in my opinion, is also very fascinating to listen to, in his interviews. That guy definitely keeps it real too. But Roach seems like a genuine down to earth, really well mannered and good guy. I wish him the best of luck in his fight against Parkinsons; he is already the greatest boxing trainer in the game today.

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well said bro! id cool click ya, but i already did in ya other thread :)

I know this is turning into a Freddie Roach love-fest, but you're bang on the nail when you say that he is the man that is the real hero of 24/7. My take on it is that he is the one that is talking the real talk that you have off-screen, while Mayweather is like a 15 year old boy when a hot woman walks in, and he's showing off. De La Hoya is probably a pretty nice guy, but I reckon he's got a bit more balls on him than he is showing on this programme.

Roach is an inspirational character, and has more balls than the two guys that'll be in the ring, he's got the guts and will to keep going in the face of whatever obstructions life throws at him, and the bits with him make it a show worth watching, even if the fighters just live up to the media images of them both.

Freddie an going to go down as all time great before all is said and done in my opp..

Freddie Roach the star of 24/7??lol...I needed that laugh.Freddie Roach an all time great?lolI think both Floyd and Roger out train him.

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Freddie Roach the star of 24/7??lol...I needed that laugh.Freddie Roach an all time great?lolI think both Floyd and Roger out train him.

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Compare Resumes....

Compare their resumes then!Listen to Roach speak when he is in the corner.Come May 5th...you'll see what kinda trainer Roach is.No way Roach is better than Roger and Floyd Sr.

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Compare their resumes then!Listen to Roach speak when he is in the corner.Come May 5th...you'll see what kinda trainer Roach is.No way Roach is better than Roger and Floyd Sr.

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The Pbf/Dlh fight has nothing to do with anything when it comes to who the better trainer is....

Agreed. Roger is a moron.

I've only seen the second episode of 24/7, but I loved it! It was the first time I heard that Roach had Parkinsons as well. Still, he deals with it and doesn't want pity or anything which to be honest if I was in the situation I would do the same. When Roger and Freddie were talking on phone and Roach told him to speak english i had a laugh but to be honest I couldn't understand either of them!

I think it's a really good show, it kind of gives a good psychological profile of floyd. Mayweather Sr. sounds like a S*** father, but still his son did grow into best p4p fighter. Kind of like Floyd is playing the part of the "bad guy" just because you need a yin to the yang. You can tell he acts cocky and arrogant but that's not what he's all about. If anything I think Floyd seems kind of insecure under the surface and it's not too hard to see if you really watch him.

Way back I thought floyd was going to embarass oscar, but the past couple weeks i've been feeling that DLH is gonna win.


I liked that little cameo by Tito too, he did that little combo then was like nah, just kidding ;)

Roger and Floyd had great Am careers...Roger had a pretty good pro career...and all of that wisdom has carried over.Floyd and Roger make boxers BETTER.DLH even admitted that Floyd senior elevated his game some.

Why did I read it wrong and thought it said 'Freddie the Roach ...?' I need to curb my Sparks habit.

Carry on!

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After watching the first two episodes of HBO's Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr 24/7 I would have to be so bold as to give my personal opinion on who is the real star and "champ" in my eyes of this reality show that HBO so cleverly produced.

You see we all know Floyd Mayweather Jr is clearly acting as he himself admits in his own words that there can not be two good guys in this so he chose to be the bad guy, the villain. So he for the two past episodes has turned up the FLOSSIN, cockiness, arrogance, the sh*t talking up to full blast for the cameras. All he has been doing is being quite obnoxious in dissing Oscar and attacking him verbally as much as possible. Generations ago when Ali was the best heavyweight and even the best pound for pound he too taunted, ridiculed the hell out of his opponents. But Ali did it in a smooth, charming, clever way that made you want to see just what can this brilliant man come up with next to say. Floyd on the other hand lacks that natural gift and personality if you will that Ali so gracefully displayed. Ali went down in history as not only one of the greatest fighters ever but one of the greatest, most influential leaders, who inspired millions in his generation and millions more today. I am pretty sure that Floyd Mayweather Jr when looked at from many generations later would not be seen in the same light as Ali was and still is today. Now I do give Floyd props for at times in the 2nd episode of 24/7 keeping it real and humbling enough to show where he came from and admit he had it rough for never having a mother or father figure in his childhood. It was also even interesting to see how his family gatherings would consist of boxing matches in their backyard from his little cousins to even his female relatives lacing up the gloves. All these more humble and REAL moments unfortunately are overshadowed by his overly flossin and playing for the camera with hanging out with 50cent in his entourage.

Now Oscar De La Hoya on the other hand is fake for the complete opposite reason Floyd is. Oscar pretends to be the "good guy". He tries so hard to play off this clean cut, PC, Pop Star image in front of the cameras. By trying to appear to be this wholesome family man whos now married with legitimate children. He tries so hard to never cuss or even talk trash while the cameras are rolling. But more intelligent fans of the sport can see right thru this and would wish Oscar for once would be more REAL and genuine since it is after all supposed to be a reality show as HBO described it. Why hasn't Oscar kept it more real and expressed his many frustrations with the sport and all the BS and politics he himself has been thru? Why hasn't he talked about the shady decisions he had to endure? The tension he has with promoters like Arum who yes helped mold him into the superstar who he is today, but who he could not care for much at the moment. Why won't he pay Sugar Shane Mosely a dime for sparring with him and probably being the best and smartest asset to him in his training camp sessions? I would also hope to believe he was not so cheap that he gave his wife Millie only a cake for her bday as the footage implies? Why doesnt he fire back at Floyd Mayweather Jr when he is so called out in front of all his fans at the various press conferences? Or atleast come back with a clever rebuttal? Is he more concerned about this fake, clean cut, wholesome, Pop Star image he wants to uphold just in case he loses his cool and says or does the wrong thing with the cameras rolling? Is Oscar planning on running for office later? I would not be shocked if he is trying to uphold this fake politician like image?

Then we come to the real star and the real champ in my eyes of the HBO 24/7 series and that is in my opinion Freddie Roach! Freddie Roach, trainer of the year yet again and now the current trainer for Oscar De La Hoya for his fight with Mayweather has to be the only one in my eyes who is keeping it REAL! From the 24/7 series we see the true character/personality of Freddie Roach and I could not be more happier that finally a great man has finally got his due/exposure/recognition. We all know Roach is battling Parkinson’s as he admits in the 24/7 Series. But what some of us may not have known was how hard he trains every day with his fighters to combat and fight off the Parkinson’s. I was most inspired by Roach by what I saw in the episode 2 on how hard he trains even with the trembling and shaking that he can not control through out his body. Oscar said it best when he said Roach even out lasts his fighters when it comes to training. Even more so Roach's personality is top notch. He does not once complain or seem even negative about his battle with Parkinson’s he acts as if it does not even exist. Out of the two men in the 24/7 series who I am supposed to be inspired from I am not inspired at all, but instead I am truly inspired by Freddie Roach.

I personally have had the honorable pleasure of meeting Freddie Roach at his famous Wild Card gym on one of my past business trips to the LA area. Even though at the time this may have been the most important training camp for his most hottest fighter for their most career defining fight(Pacquiao vs Morales III), Freddie Roach did not crack under the pressure or stress. He was as calm and focused as a man can be in his shoes. I was watching the Destroyer destroy his sparring partners when all of a sudden Freddie looks at me and calls me over to him. Now I don't quite recall why exactly he called me over to him, but next thing you know he's interrupting his trainers to ask them if they could please take a picture of me and him. I could not believe how much of a nice genuine class act this man was? He then took the time to answer ALL of the questions I had for him, Pacquiao, and the up coming match with Morales. I even remember jokingly telling him that if Morales is not able to make weight that you guys should throw MAB in as a last minute replacement. But what was funny is I did not say Marco Antonio Barrera but I said MAB. So he took a couple seconds to realize that MAB is Marco Antonio Barrera and then he replied back to me on the matter. ;D

While hanging out with Freddie Roach I unfortunately saw all of the trembling and shaking going on through out his body. To be honest I thought at the time his body was weak and frail. But then seeing how hard he trains every day with his fighters and to see how much he gives it 24/7 makes me realize that I was wrong. Roach is by no means weak and frail. Roach is stronger and faster than alot of the common folk out there who do not have a disease like Parkinson’s. Roach has the heart, mind, soul, determination, blood sweat and tears of a true champion!

In a time where the sport of boxing lacks so many stars and champions who can inspire us. I found the one man in the sport who does inspire me and that is FREDDIE ROACH!

and yes again my friends this has been REEEEEEAAAAAAL TALK!

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jesus christ Why wont people stop going on about Moseley not getting paid, im sure he doesn't need the money , and it is good exp for Shane too.

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Why did I read it wrong and thought it said 'Freddie the Roach ...?' I need to curb my Sparks habit.

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lol HAVE A :coolclick:

very impressive post

roach is a great man and a great trainer

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I know this is turning into a Freddie Roach love-fest, but you're bang on the nail when you say that he is the man that is the real hero of 24/7. My take on it is that he is the one that is talking the real talk that you have off-screen, while Mayweather is like a 15 year old boy when a hot woman walks in, and he's showing off. De La Hoya is probably a pretty nice guy, but I reckon he's got a bit more balls on him than he is showing on this programme.

Roach is an inspirational character, and has more balls than the two guys that'll be in the ring, he's got the guts and will to keep going in the face of whatever obstructions life throws at him, and the bits with him make it a show worth watching, even if the fighters just live up to the media images of them both.

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CC #426 baby! thats well said!

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I know this is turning into a Freddie Roach love-fest, but you're bang on the nail when you say that he is the man that is the real hero of 24/7. My take on it is that he is the one that is talking the real talk that you have off-screen, while Mayweather is like a 15 year old boy when a hot woman walks in, and he's showing off. De La Hoya is probably a pretty nice guy, but I reckon he's got a bit more balls on him than he is showing on this programme.

Roach is an inspirational character, and has more balls than the two guys that'll be in the ring, he's got the guts and will to keep going in the face of whatever obstructions life throws at him, and the bits with him make it a show worth watching, even if the fighters just live up to the media images of them both.

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CC#426 bro! very well said!

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CC#329 i do concuuuuuuuuuuuur bro!

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Compare their resumes then!Listen to Roach speak when he is in the corner.Come May 5th...you'll see what kinda trainer Roach is.No way Roach is better than Roger and Floyd Sr.

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exactly bro! i never said in this article that i thought or hoped oscar would win, i already said Freddie is the winner and champ of this 24/7 series in my opinion. if oscar loses i still see Freddie as the MAN! and hes still the one who inspires me!

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CC 63 bro!

well crackheads usually become morons :-[

PS: CHI-TOWN in august bro! GINOS EAST baby!

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After watching the first two episodes of HBO's Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr 24/7 I would have to be so bold as to give my personal opinion on who is the real star and "champ" in my eyes of this reality show that HBO so cleverly produced.

You see we all know Floyd Mayweather Jr is clearly acting as he himself admits in his own words that there can not be two good guys in this so he chose to be the bad guy, the villain. So he for the two past episodes has turned up the FLOSSIN, cockiness, arrogance, the sh*t talking up to full blast for the cameras. All he has been doing is being quite obnoxious in dissing Oscar and attacking him verbally as much as possible. Generations ago when Ali was the best heavyweight and even the best pound for pound he too taunted, ridiculed the hell out of his opponents. But Ali did it in a smooth, charming, clever way that made you want to see just what can this brilliant man come up with next to say. Floyd on the other hand lacks that natural gift and personality if you will that Ali so gracefully displayed. Ali went down in history as not only one of the greatest fighters ever but one of the greatest, most influential leaders, who inspired millions in his generation and millions more today. I am pretty sure that Floyd Mayweather Jr when looked at from many generations later would not be seen in the same light as Ali was and still is today. Now I do give Floyd props for at times in the 2nd episode of 24/7 keeping it real and humbling enough to show where he came from and admit he had it rough for never having a mother or father figure in his childhood. It was also even interesting to see how his family gatherings would consist of boxing matches in their backyard from his little cousins to even his female relatives lacing up the gloves. All these more humble and REAL moments unfortunately are overshadowed by his overly flossin and playing for the camera with hanging out with 50cent in his entourage.

Now Oscar De La Hoya on the other hand is fake for the complete opposite reason Floyd is. Oscar pretends to be the "good guy". He tries so hard to play off this clean cut, PC, Pop Star image in front of the cameras. By trying to appear to be this wholesome family man whos now married with legitimate children. He tries so hard to never cuss or even talk trash while the cameras are rolling. But more intelligent fans of the sport can see right thru this and would wish Oscar for once would be more REAL and genuine since it is after all supposed to be a reality show as HBO described it. Why hasn't Oscar kept it more real and expressed his many frustrations with the sport and all the BS and politics he himself has been thru? Why hasn't he talked about the shady decisions he had to endure? The tension he has with promoters like Arum who yes helped mold him into the superstar who he is today, but who he could not care for much at the moment. Why won't he pay Sugar Shane Mosely a dime for sparring with him and probably being the best and smartest asset to him in his training camp sessions? I would also hope to believe he was not so cheap that he gave his wife Millie only a cake for her bday as the footage implies? Why doesnt he fire back at Floyd Mayweather Jr when he is so called out in front of all his fans at the various press conferences? Or atleast come back with a clever rebuttal? Is he more concerned about this fake, clean cut, wholesome, Pop Star image he wants to uphold just in case he loses his cool and says or does the wrong thing with the cameras rolling? Is Oscar planning on running for office later? I would not be shocked if he is trying to uphold this fake politician like image?

Then we come to the real star and the real champ in my eyes of the HBO 24/7 series and that is in my opinion Freddie Roach! Freddie Roach, trainer of the year yet again and now the current trainer for Oscar De La Hoya for his fight with Mayweather has to be the only one in my eyes who is keeping it REAL! From the 24/7 series we see the true character/personality of Freddie Roach and I could not be more happier that finally a great man has finally got his due/exposure/recognition. We all know Roach is battling Parkinson’s as he admits in the 24/7 Series. But what some of us may not have known was how hard he trains every day with his fighters to combat and fight off the Parkinson’s. I was most inspired by Roach by what I saw in the episode 2 on how hard he trains even with the trembling and shaking that he can not control through out his body. Oscar said it best when he said Roach even out lasts his fighters when it comes to training. Even more so Roach's personality is top notch. He does not once complain or seem even negative about his battle with Parkinson’s he acts as if it does not even exist. Out of the two men in the 24/7 series who I am supposed to be inspired from I am not inspired at all, but instead I am truly inspired by Freddie Roach.

I personally have had the honorable pleasure of meeting Freddie Roach at his famous Wild Card gym on one of my past business trips to the LA area. Even though at the time this may have been the most important training camp for his most hottest fighter for their most career defining fight(Pacquiao vs Morales III), Freddie Roach did not crack under the pressure or stress. He was as calm and focused as a man can be in his shoes. I was watching the Destroyer destroy his sparring partners when all of a sudden Freddie looks at me and calls me over to him. Now I don't quite recall why exactly he called me over to him, but next thing you know he's interrupting his trainers to ask them if they could please take a picture of me and him. I could not believe how much of a nice genuine class act this man was? He then took the time to answer ALL of the questions I had for him, Pacquiao, and the up coming match with Morales. I even remember jokingly telling him that if Morales is not able to make weight that you guys should throw MAB in as a last minute replacement. But what was funny is I did not say Marco Antonio Barrera but I said MAB. So he took a couple seconds to realize that MAB is Marco Antonio Barrera and then he replied back to me on the matter. ;D

While hanging out with Freddie Roach I unfortunately saw all of the trembling and shaking going on through out his body. To be honest I thought at the time his body was weak and frail. But then seeing how hard he trains every day with his fighters and to see how much he gives it 24/7 makes me realize that I was wrong. Roach is by no means weak and frail. Roach is stronger and faster than alot of the common folk out there who do not have a disease like Parkinson’s. Roach has the heart, mind, soul, determination, blood sweat and tears of a true champion!

In a time where the sport of boxing lacks so many stars and champions who can inspire us. I found the one man in the sport who does inspire me and that is FREDDIE ROACH!

and yes again my friends this has been REEEEEEAAAAAAL TALK!

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jesus christ Why wont people stop going on about Moseley not getting paid, im sure he doesn't need the money , and it is good exp for Shane too.

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SSM might not need the money as u said, but that means Oscar sure as hell dont need the money as well.......well atleast the amount of money what he should pay SSM for being the champ that he is to humble himself and become a sparring partner and to be the best weapon/advantage in oscar's training camp.

this aint that scene in rocky3 when rocky and apollo are about to spar for fun and apollo goes DING DING ;D

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Originally Posted by ds91

very impressive post

roach is a great man and a great trainer

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CC 99 bro! thanks i appreciate it brother!