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With such a big fight coming up on May 5, Golden Boy Productions has done it again. A terrible undercard. Whenever has Golden Boy put together a great all around card? It hasn't. I'm hoping for great things with the main event, but Golden Boy can't continue to give us these garbage undercards.
who dont u like on the undercard my friend? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
This undercard is disappointing. I think Juarez will dominate his opponent.
Considering how big an event this is, and the fact that it's $55, they should have had at least one undercard fight that was good enough to be an HBO main event. Either a fight with a world champion (like Diaz-Freitas) or a fight between two top prospects (like Miranda-Pavlik).
I like the Boomboom Bautista fight. :lickish:
I totally agree mate, for $55 there should be MUCH better undercards to watch at an event this huge. I think it's only £16(about $33-34 dollars)here though so I won't complain but I think American viewers get a bit of a raw deal sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
isnt my by ouma fighting tho?????????
i remember there was a thread about oscar only paying him 50g's to fight on the under card?
Oscar should be ahamed for offering Ouma 50K. Oscar should be showcasing a guy like Ouma on the undercard and paying him a hell of a lot more than 50kQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Bad
Me too man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tenshio
I guess the thinking behind it is that, anyone who is going to pay for this fight, will do so regardless of what is on the undercard, so Golden boy can save other potential money fights for other cards... But it sure isn't a way to appeal to the new fans turning in..Although many wouldn't get excited about anything but the main event, or even know who people like Miranda Pavlik Diaz etc are, it is stupid to have such a hyped and important card which could potentially produce not a single thrilling fight. I guess you never know, but it seems to me like Bautista and Juarez could very possibly just blast their opponents out.. Mind you if the main event turns out to be a thrilling fight, the undercard won't really make a bit of difference overall..
from boxrec http://www.boxrec.com/date_search.ph...07&mm=05&dd=05
i would assume the top 4 are the only ones that are gonna be televised on the PPVQuote:
USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, MGM Grand Hotel & Casino
Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather Jr 12
Rey Bautista V Sergio Manuel Medina 12
Alex John Banal V Juan Alberto Rosas 10
Rocky Juarez V Jose Andres Hernandez 10
John O'Donnell V ? 10
John Murray V ? 10
Billy Dib V Jose Alberto Gonzalez 10
Ernest Johnson V Hector Beltran
This is exactly right. CC. Richard Schaeffer basically said this in a boxingtalk interview a couple of days ago: people are going to buy this fight for the main event so we don't need a great undercard. These undercard fights aren't even worthy of being a boxing after dark main event. It's pathetic. And, as you point out, short-sighted. If this is the event that's supposed to bring non-boxing fans into the mix, this is a terrible way to do it. It's already not at all unlikely that the PBF/Oscar fight is not crowd-pleasing (I still think the most likely outcome is PBF pot-shots Oscar one punch at a time all night and cruises to an easy points victory, a la PBF/Baldomir -- not that ODH isn't better than Baldo, but I still think Floyd's too quick and defensive to get drawn into anything else, and he won't need to take risks to win on points). If on top of that the undercard sucks, they'll just end up turning people off to the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Barrera - Juarez II was one of the best all around cards on paper we had in a long while. Look it up ;)
Anyways, I like the undercard. I think people are going to be in for a thrill with Juarez - Hernandez. Hernandez will hang tough, he loves to counter on the inside and Juarez is no outside fighter. Hernandez - Escalante was a canidate for FOTY imo. Add Juarez and it just has some serious potential.
Ponce De Leon is one of the more exciting fighters out there, and I'm sure they could have marketed that fight alone for an HBO outing. They are really pushing him. Would have loved to have seen GBP get Bautista in there for PDL though.
Yeah rather shabby. Rather lucky that us brits dont have to pay for it. Im just going to crawl in from a heavy one clubbing to my sofa and flick on the main event!!
I saw my first commerical for the fight during Wednesday Night Fights. It was very original and gave me a chuckle.
But I almost shat down my britches leg when they said the PPV cost was $54.95. WTF! So, HD will be $64.95?!
Theft.
yeah bro bautista that future son!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
undercard is no that bad. boom boom and aj bazooka banal is such an exciting and explosive fighters. we all know the game of boom boom aj banal though is very raw, lacks head and lateral movement but his just what 18 years old?.. But watch out of his aggressive punches it could be really crisp, fast and powerful he was sometimes held by boxing analysts as the next pacquiao hmm maybe because of his aggression? because certainly their style is entirely different... The juarez fight though is what bothers me because i know he'll just walk over his opponent. Overall for a $55 this isn't good supporting card if not disappointing.
Bob Arum used to do this with boxing cards. He puts a good matchup in the main event as you have to -to get people to buy the ppv event, then he puts on his crop of fighters against no good competition. He didn't want to lose his fighters to another good fighter. It is a no risk policy. Don King put up great matchups. I liked the Don King cards the most. so when people insult Don King I say, well his job in boxing was to promote and put on good fights and he did it. I always thought Don King did a great promotional job and put the fights up. He did his job. Arum and Goldenboy are the same. Same games.
looks like theres gonna be 5 fights on the undercard
http://fightnews.com/schedulemm.shtmlQuote:
HBO-PPV
Saturday, May 5 2007
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather (WBC Super Welterweight Championship)
Rey Bautista vs. Sergio Medina (super bantamweights)
Rocky Juarez vs. Jose Hernandez (featherweights)
Bill Dib vs. Jose Alberto Gonzalez (super featherweights)
Ernest Johnson vs. TBA
Rock Allen vs. TBA
How about in 1991, when payperviews were $29.99, and the boxing world was shocked to find out that Tyson vs Holfield would be priced at $49.99.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I guess we can look foward to seeing $55 for all pay-per-views pretty soon.
even better remember BLACK BOXES! ;) :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Juarez v Hernandez on paper is a good fight but for that money the card is complete horseshit, I like watching Boom Boom but I think there should definatly be a world title on the line on the undercard. Us brits shold most likely get to see John Murray though, I hope they show that over there too, look out for this lad he's very very good to watch, tough and stays in the pocket like Juan Diaz, a proper box fighter who wears em down. O' Donnell ain't bad as well but Murray is one to watch.
yeah! wouldn't miss that. two undefeated prospects, should be a barnburner. i hope they also show the aj banal undercard. this kid's the future of philippine boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
i agree, they should have thrown in a couple of world title fights in there. they think the main event would be good enough for the ppv buyer's money.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'm actually down with the under card.
Decent matches...not the best...but not the worst.
I was always a believer in good undercards for a big fight. 55 bucks for this fight is enough money and if they put on there even Hill vs. Maske or J.C. Chavez Jr. vs. a good fighter that would have been good for a solid undercard. What about Mosley vs. Cotto at welterweight? I know Cotto just fought, but just for the sake of argument, that is what Don King would have made for his undercard years ago. Arum always made terrible undercards, although his main events were sometimes better than Don Kings. Meaning, Hearns/Hagler was obviously one of the greatest fights ever,, the undercard had a guy named Willie Dewit who I am sure some of your remember, Luis Santana fought Darrell Chambers, Ricky Womack fought, and Pat Jefferson fought. Who are these guys? Well decent fighters for 1985 but where was McGuigan that night or Bramble or McCallum or Curry? I suppose when you have names like Hagler or Hearns, or Delahoya or Mayweather you do not need other guys. But if a cut occurs and we pay 55 bucks for a boring fight up until a cut happens, then we lost 55 bucks.
They don't want anything on the under card being better than the main event, anyway it's free over here so I don't care. ;D
EXACTLY! ;D ;) PLus Boom Boom is an awesome awesome fighter in the making and so is AJ,I like them both. Juarez fight is going to be a slug fest then there is the amazing main event. I don't think it's too bad,I mean think about it,when will there next be a fight which will have EVERYONE talking this much rather than just us hardcore? Not too many I can think of in the near future!Quote:
Originally Posted by RiZO
PLus Oscar and Floyd have sold the fight brilliantly,heck my mum watches 24/7 with me! I'm hooked on it too! It's also the first super fight I've actually witnessed since being a boxing fan(I've only been a fan 3 years now) so I'm dam excited!
I have seen worse...Though not exactly the quality undercard you would expect for a main event of this magnatude but...Maybe they know something we don't and don't want to take the chances of an undercard fight stealing the show