~~Hey Joe... Just retire!!!~~

Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just fucking retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

I'm starting to agree. All the talk about Joe being Britain's best pisses me off because I don't think he has ever legitimately chased the big fights. Warren's offer of $3m and an American referee to fight Joe in England was a joke. When Warren is making offers like that on his behalf you can't help feeling it's being done just to say "well, you can't say I didn't try and get a big fight." Joe has to stop taking the sure thing and take the risk.

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just fucking retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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I'm starting to agree. All the talk about Joe being Britain's best pisses me off because I don't think he has ever legitimately chased the big fights. Warren's offer of $3m and an American referee to fight Joe in England was a joke. When Warren is making offers like that on his behalf you can't help feeling it's being done just to say "well, you can't say I didn't try and get a big fight." Joe has to stop taking the sure thing and take the risk.

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CC cuz I thought he was Brit's best... I think I'll give the nod to hatton. You're absolutly right when you talk about the deal making... "I tried to make the fight but it fell through" Cuz marquee fighters don't fight for peanuts, Frank... He isn't stupid but HE THINKS WE ARE!

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just fucking retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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I'm starting to agree. All the talk about Joe being Britain's best pisses me off because I don't think he has ever legitimately chased the big fights. Warren's offer of $3m and an American referee to fight Joe in England was a joke. When Warren is making offers like that on his behalf you can't help feeling it's being done just to say "well, you can't say I didn't try and get a big fight." Joe has to stop taking the sure thing and take the risk.

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CC cuz I thought he was Brit's best... I think I'll give the nod to hatton cuz your absolutly right when you talk about the deal making... "I tried to make the fight but it fell through" Cuz marqee fighters don't fight dor peanuts, Frank... He isn't stupid but HE THINKS WE ARE!

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I didn't point out that terrible offer was to Jermain Taylor, who can earn more than that to fight in America. Hatton is Britain's best, at least when he says he wants the big fights he actually tries to make a deal. Warren also says it makes no sense for Joe to be leaving Wales after he pulled in a crowd of 35,000 people in Wales. He had a 13 fight undercard, I'm sure they weren't all there for Joe. He needs to stop threatening to go fight in America and actually live up to his word.

YES PLEASE RETIRE
Wot a waste of a career fighting nobodies , like you say like him or loath him Ricky Hatton isnt afraid to fight guys who may beat him.
RETIRE AND TAKE WARREN WITH YOU WE ARE SICK OF YOU BOTH WITH BOLD CLAIMS FOR FUTURE FIGHTS HEARD IT ALL BEFORE , Jermaine Taylor beat Hopkins so he isnt going to come to Wales to fight Calzaghe for a few million.
If Joe wants the fight then take a lesser cut of the money and go to the States to fight him , but no he will BLAH BLAH BLAH and end up fighting my Grandmother or someone less dangerous if Warren has his way :)

Warren even came up with an excuse for why Calzaghe won't fight Carl Froch.

I understand that Froch isn't big in America, but if Joe wants to make money and stay in the UK, people will want to watch that fight and he will make money in the process. The truth is Warren tried to insert a clause that if Froch wins, he gets an option on him. Frank is desperate to keep a name and clearly doesn't have as much faith in Calzaghe as he claims. I wish the arrogant s**t would f*ck off from boxing altogether.

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Warren even came up with an excuse for why Calzaghe won't fight Carl Froch.

I understand that Froch isn't big in America, but if Joe wants to make money and stay in the UK, people will want to watch that fight and he will make money in the process. The truth is Warren tried to insert a clause that if Froch wins, he gets an option on him. Frank is desperate to keep a name and clearly doesn't have as much faith in Calzaghe as he claims. I wish the arrogant s**t would f*ck off from boxing altogether.

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just fucking retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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I read that HBO have offered Calzaghe a fight with Hopkins in the US in January. Is this just another oppertunity for Joe to dodge a fight with a Warren excuse or do you think he'll actually take that one?

Warren will offer Hopkins 63 Japanese Yen and demand he fights in Wales with all British Judges and a British ref.

"Hey... Warren tried to make the fight happen but Bernard just wouldn't settle for Frank's terms!" ::**

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Warren will offer Hopkins 63 Japanese Yen and demand he fights in Wales with all British Judges and a British ref.

"Hey... Warren tried to make the fight happen but Bernard just wouldn't settle for Frank's terms!" ::**

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Now that is just Hopkins being ungrateful. That is a dynamite offer, what boxer wouldn't accept that?

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Warren will offer Hopkins 63 Japanese Yen and demand he fights in Wales with all British Judges and a British ref.

"Hey... Warren tried to make the fight happen but Bernard just wouldn't settle for Frank's terms!" ::**

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Now that is just Hopkins being ungrateful. That is a dynamite offer, what boxer wouldn't accept that?

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Yes i mean its not as tho Hopkins is a great fighter or huge name like Joe Calzaghe is it ??????
Bernard you are just greedy lol hehehehe

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Can't stand him anymore...  Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark...  Waiting for the fights he talks about...  Getting let down...  Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too)  Lacy was great but what now?  Now he's fighting Kessler...  No...  Roy Jones...  No...  Hopkins...  No...  JT...  No...  He's retiring...  No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum.  Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear...  [It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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S*** Pride switch to decaf bro... Thats some passionate hatred you got there  ;D      Yep he and his team are all talk NO ACTION

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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Wait and see ?? ;D

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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Wait and see ?? ;D

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Hehe..Just wait bro.. Your on the bandwagon now..But you'll be on our wagon with the rest of the haters soon bro ;D

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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Wait and see ?? ;D

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WAIT FOR WHAT?!?! I'VE BEEN WAITING YEARS! WHEN DOES IT END?!?!

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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Wait and see ?? ;D

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WAIT FOR WHAT?!?! I'VE BEEN WAITING YEARS! WHEN DOES IT END?!?!

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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Wait and see ?? ;D

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WAIT FOR WHAT?!?! I'VE BEEN WAITING YEARS! WHEN DOES IT END?!?!

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HAHAHAHAHAHA... YOU wait and see! :beat:

Okay...here goes.

Don't agree with the post at all.

But I see where your'e coming from Pride...I mean...you were a Manfredo fan to the highest degree...so I feel yer pain. ::**

The problem with all of this is that Joe did what everyone was raising so much hell over & still no one is happy.

He dispatched Lacy & now everyone is saying that Lacy was trash...which is total gotdam bullshit.

If or when Joe fights Kess & if & when he beats him...it'll be the same thing.

Calzaghe has done the very same thing as Hopkins, Jones, & Floyd have done but catches more flack. It's ridiculous.

Sure I'm a Calzaghe fan, sure I'm disgusted that he fought a peice of TRASH like Manfredo (sorry POB), sure I would like to see him fight Kessler too, but Joe is a great fighter no matter what any of you say & that can not be taken away from him.

I'd love to see him fight Hopkins...but he'd lose against the Nard, IWO.

I'd love to see him hand Taylor his ass.

I'd love to see him fight Jones...not sure of the outcome.

But I aint a pro fighter...nor am I a pro that has beaten the shit outta 42 men.

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Okay...here goes.

Don't agree with the post at all.

But I see where your'e coming from Pride...I mean...you were a Manfredo fan to the highest degree...so I feel yer pain. ::**

The problem with all of this is that Joe did what everyone was raising so much hell over & still no one is happy.

He dispatched Lacy & now everyone is saying that Lacy was trash...which is total gotdam bullshit.

If or when Joe fights Kess & if & when he beats him...it'll be the same thing.

Calzaghe has done the very same thing as Hopkins, Jones, & Floyd have done but catches more flack. It's ridiculous.

Sure I'm a Calzaghe fan, sure I'm disgusted that he fought a peice of TRASH like Manfredo (sorry POB), sure I would like to see him fight Kessler too, but Joe is a great fighter no matter what any of you say & that can not be taken away from him.

I'd love to see him fight Hopkins...but he'd lose against the Nard, IWO.

I'd love to see him hand Taylor his ass.

I'd love to see him fight Jones...not sure of the outcome.

But I aint a pro fighter...nor am I a pro that has beaten the shit outta 42 men.

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See Wacko, you knw I respect you views...

I never said Calzaghe was a bad fighter... Nor did I ever say that Lacy is trash... I love Jeff! Did I think his destruction of Lacy was masterful? YES!

As a Calzaghe fan you should be irritated!

You wanna know why I'm so irritated?

It's not cuz I think his record is based on B fighters... It is because I know he is THAT good and I want to see it...

I want to see him fight the best.

As a Manfredo fan do you think his fight with Calzaghe was my dream fight? I hoped for an upset but did you think deep down I thought I was gonna see one?

If your not irritated with him by now, Wack, you must like that fly I mentionedin the initial post.


He could beat Jones IMO

Outpoint Taylor

Loss to BHOP

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PS. Early stoppage does not = TRASH :)

Calzaghe and co make me laugh he hurts his hand but he's still fighting in July they need an opponent for July they cant fight Kessler because he can't make July neither can Taylor Joe keeps saying he's definately fighting in July he will only be out of full training for 4 week with his hand then as if we did'nt know it would happen he pulls out of july show he won't be back till September surely now he has to fight a top fighter they have enough time to sort it if he does'nt fight a big named young hungry top fighter next he may aswell retire

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also, lets not forget here that minus a clash of heads(based on what we saw after the calzaghe fight) lacy would have never even been in the position to give calzaghe the inflated win he did ;)

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Calzaghe and co make me laugh he hurts his hand but he's still fighting in July they need an opponent for July they cant fight Kessler because he can't make July neither can Taylor Joe keeps saying he's definately fighting in July he will only be out of full training for 4 week with his hand then as if we did'nt know it would happen he pulls out of july show he won't be back till September surely now he has to fight a top fighter they have enough time to sort it if he does'nt fight a big named young hungry top fighter next he may aswell retire

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EXACTLY! Either be the champ or get out of the way! The torch needs to stay lit or needs to be passed

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I know, Mick Hennessy was quite pissed about it too, which is why they turned that offer down. Frank has his excuse book at the ready of course.

I agree with POB, I too like Calzaghe as a fighter, and think he could prove himself against the best. But he rarely does, and instead always takes the easy option when others are open. He was fantastic against Lacy but beating one name doesn't cut it to make you a legend. I don't know if it's him or Warren, but for f*cks sake Joe, have some self belief or just give up now.

you have gotta say if JC does not make a superfight next there's no hope for the man and he should just retire. im one of JC's biggest fans, but ive got a feeling the excusses cant go on, no reason now why it cant be kessler or taylor in sept if he really wants it....

dont let the fans down joe.

How would the Taylor fight go if it were made? Would JT move up in weight? Would Joe move down? Would it be at a catch weight? Whos belt would be on the line?

How would this be done?

When i started reading this post i just thought another calzaghe hater with no point s to say other than he crap cos he beat manfredo but after reading POB other posts i do agree with him nd i truly hope he fights kessler next as fighting inkin or froch would be the same as ne other fighter on his record

CC! Thanks for reading the whole way through... I'm only a hater when Hating is due! I want him to fight the best... He has the ability(prob not for to much longer, though)

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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And you are.....Calzaghes biggest fan!!! :-\

No not at all...the name "pride of" says it all....Calzaghe will continue his career just fine...

:) he needs to retire OK but after he has given carl the cobra froch a fight /could be the bigest british fight for years both unbeaten,LOADS of money for both men and we dont have to fly the pond to see it ;)

Welcome to the forum Gianluca(I know it's Branco, just kidding)

Here is "cool click" #1

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Can't stand him anymore... Been waiting years to see him make his legit mark... Waiting for the fights he talks about... Getting let down... Watching him fight tomato can after tomato can(mix some decent fighters in there too) Lacy was great but what now? Now he's fighting Kessler... No... Roy Jones... No... Hopkins... No... JT... No... He's retiring... No...

Dude, just F****** retire so this broken record can stop and I can stop being forced to hear about your antics on this forum. Its like that fly that you cant seem to stop buzzing next to your ear... It pisses you off so much you almost punch yourself in the side of the head to kill it. ::**

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And you are.....Calzaghes biggest fan!!! :-\

No not at all...the name "pride of" says it all....Calzaghe will continue his career just fine...

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Nah, I don't hate on him for beating peter... He was over his head... It would have been a late to mid TKO probably but the fans that were present were robbed of a fight!

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I'm starting to agree. All the talk about Joe being Britain's best pisses me off because I don't think he has ever legitimately chased the big fights. Warren's offer of $3m and an American referee to fight Joe in England was a joke. When Warren is making offers like that on his behalf you can't help feeling it's being done just to say "well, you can't say I didn't try and get a big fight." Joe has to stop taking the sure thing and take the risk.

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CC cuz I thought he was Brit's best... I think I'll give the nod to hatton. You're absolutly right when you talk about the deal making... "I tried to make the fight but it fell through" Cuz marquee fighters don't fight for peanuts, Frank... He isn't stupid but HE THINKS WE ARE!

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you normally make good posts, why iw as a lil shocked, not so much at the post but atyour logic.

you talk like calzaghe makes the offers or picks the fighters... Very few boxers in the modern game pick their fights, thats what the manager and promoters do.

I havn't seen calzaghe say he is or wants to fight RJJ next, the only time i have seen him speak on his next fight he was talked about taylor and kessler as the ones he wants, and has done since Bika.

Kessler pulled out of the july challenge don't forget, WARREN made the offer to taylor NOT JOE.

When hopkins was offerd $3mill to fight joe in the us after he beat Tito, that was "peanuts"? Or when RJJ was offerd over $5.5mill to fight him when he was in prime, again "peanuts"? I agree the Taylor offer seemed stupid, i thought it was a missprint when i first read it on text.... but that was one offer in alot of more than substantial offers.

Now don't get me wrong, don't go thinking "Oh ehre goes the welsh lad defneding his boy again" cause i want to see him in the ring with taylor and kessler as much, if not more than most... But that ball is basicaly in warrens court, all joe can do is train and be wanting to fight either one of them, and he is doing that...

If he doesn't fight both of them, or adleast Kessler, he will leave his carrer in seirous jeperdy. He gets stick now, but IMO he beats them and they will bring his carrer into perspective and alot will be less harsh on him...

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I'm starting to agree. All the talk about Joe being Britain's best pisses me off because I don't think he has ever legitimately chased the big fights. Warren's offer of $3m and an American referee to fight Joe in England was a joke. When Warren is making offers like that on his behalf you can't help feeling it's being done just to say "well, you can't say I didn't try and get a big fight." Joe has to stop taking the sure thing and take the risk.

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CC cuz I thought he was Brit's best... I think I'll give the nod to hatton. You're absolutly right when you talk about the deal making... "I tried to make the fight but it fell through" Cuz marquee fighters don't fight for peanuts, Frank... He isn't stupid but HE THINKS WE ARE!

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you normally make good posts, why iw as a lil shocked, not so much at the post but atyour logic.

you talk like calzaghe makes the offers or picks the fighters... Very few boxers in the modern game pick their fights, thats what the manager and promoters do.

I havn't seen calzaghe say he is or wants to fight RJJ next, the only time i have seen him speak on his next fight he was talked about taylor and kessler as the ones he wants, and has done since Bika.

Kessler pulled out of the july challenge don't forget, WARREN made the offer to taylor NOT JOE.

When hopkins was offerd $3mill to fight joe in the us after he beat Tito, that was "peanuts"? Or when RJJ was offerd over $5.5mill to fight him when he was in prime, again "peanuts"? I agree the Taylor offer seemed stupid, i thought it was a missprint when i first read it on text.... but that was one offer in alot of more than substantial offers.

Now don't get me wrong, don't go thinking "Oh ehre goes the welsh lad defneding his boy again" cause i want to see him in the ring with taylor and kessler as much, if not more than most... But that ball is basicaly in warrens court, all joe can do is train and be wanting to fight either one of them, and he is doing that...

If he doesn't fight both of them, or adleast Kessler, he will leave his carrer in seirous jeperdy. He gets stick now, but IMO he beats them and they will bring his carrer into perspective and alot will be less harsh on him...

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I hear you... So basicly what your saying is a fighter doesn't have any say in who he fights? C'mon! Warren and Joe are on the same page. Protection!

As for the rest of your post I agree with you and I didn't take it like you were just rooting for your boy. I feel that his career needs to be put in perspective.

Warren needs to stop with the offering people peanuts... Expecting them to say no... Just so he can say they offered and the other guy backed out.

The public isn't stupid.