I'm going for Haye to have to much power, i no he is still quite green and not had many rounds but Mormeck has been in trouble a few times in both Bell fights, and without a doubt in my mind Haye hits alot harder, i go Haye 7th round KO.
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I'm going for Haye to have to much power, i no he is still quite green and not had many rounds but Mormeck has been in trouble a few times in both Bell fights, and without a doubt in my mind Haye hits alot harder, i go Haye 7th round KO.
Haye will beat the bloody piss out of Mormeck and I'm not talking about a kidney punch.
Bell don't want some either...
Only one way it can go. I reckon right about now Mormeck is hoping and praying that Haye never makes it back down to cruiser weight.
Haye by KO
or he runs outta gas and gets stopped
Gotta disagree with the consensus here . I think if Mormeck can survive the early on slaught then his class and experience will tell. Haye has looked vunerable at cruiserweight against Thompson and Mock and I think after bulking up it would be a bad move to come back down to cruiser . Jean Marc Mormeck is a quality all round fighter with exceptional ringcraft and has been the man for so long . It would be a dangerous fight for Haye so he may be better off gunning for the big boys
His future is at heavyweight and he looked so great last night that youd have to give him a chance with 3 of the 4 champs ( Wvlad not included ) Putting it into perspective ,Audley knocked this Bonin guy out aswel and the finish was identical but something abouit Haye suggests he has a bright future . The search for a star is over .
Audley plodded around for about 20 minutes first, too scared that he might get hit back by a guy smaller than him. Haye went in there as the smaller man and did the job in less than 2 minutes.Quote:
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Do you think Haye can beat Audley and Sprott based on that performance ?
I'd have fancied Haye's chances over either of those before seeing him last night and to be honest I'd probably favour him over most British heavys.Quote:
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Hope Haye does'nt get involved in the British heavyweight mess just straight to the big names
Thats his plan it seems, I wouldnt even mind seeing him in with one British guy once one of them (probably Skelton) has emerged as the best of the bunch. But until one of the current guys is head and shoulders above the rest theres really no point getting involved in what seems to be an endless merry go round.
I think he ko's Mormeck in 6 or 7 rounds
To be honest I'd be a bit worried that now Haye has been up way above the cruiserweight limit, he might struggle coming back down. If he comes in with his stamina and power intact, then Haye beats Mormeck pretty quickly for me, in five or six perhaps. If he comes in weight drained and right on the limit, having dehydrated himself to make that weight, then I think he'll lack the KO power he showed last night, and Mormeck could weather the storm and eke out a points win.
Either way, I'm looking forward to see it, and good to see a British fighter who isn't being governed by FW and told what to do and which no-hoper to fight.
He would beat them both in the same night.Quote:
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Haye
i'm a fan of haye, always said for a long time he could be a CW and HW champ - but i think the JMM fight will be close...
first off Bonin was fuck all lol - lets not get carried away audrey stopped him in 9 and look how 'awsome' he is... not.
considering the dire stats of the heavy weights right now and the piss poor talent there with the exception of maybe 3 it says alot for how good a ranked 11 WBC fighter is...
Every fighter bigs them selves up when they didn't get to 'prove' anything, haye has said now at Hw he is 100% he is like 70 at CW but lets be honest, he never was tested in the bonin fight, JMM will take him far and preasure him, he is class enough tog et inside and work the body, i have questions on how well haye can handle that and last the distance, i don't think his chin is all that special, i know he has been dropped in sparring by some avaerge fighters with average punching power...
I have yet to see anything to say Bell has much more power then haye does. when haye is given time to put his punches together and work the ring like he wants he can be a tought customer, but when he is preasured and not given time to think it is a different game for him then...
Haye needs to finish it early or i think it will be a very long fight for him with a possible late stoppage or loss on points.
Hope after he beats Mormeck he fights Enzo before moving upto heavyweight
I think Frank and his lot have missed their chance, now I think if Haye beats Mormeck he'll say "You can chase me up to heavyweight Frank. You blew it now make it worth MY while,"Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
As far as the fight goes, Mormeck was really good against Bell, but isn't the hardest to hit, especially with a right cross, Haye's money punch. If Mormeck gives Haye time and space to load up then its over for him, if he can pressure him he's got a good chance. I think to win Mormeck needs to fight in a Ricky Hatton/Mike Tyson style of just constant pressure and forward momentum, never give Haye a second to get his eye in.
Really though I'm generous to the frenchie, I think Haye will flatten him, within 4 rounds.
This is 50-50 fight because they both have stamina problems but only difference imo is chins i think Hayes chin is questionable where as Mormeck has got great chin and i see him losing first 4 rounds then go on to stop Haye in 6th round but its very even fight and could go either way.
I dont think Mormeck has good stamina though, why would he come on so strong after the first few rounds? He's very stocky and has good head movement but he's much smaller than hay and has much shorter arms. He hasn't got much of a jab whereas Haye has a ramrod jab with a good long reach. When Mormeck plants his feet and lets rip with his overhand rights and lefts he's pretty dangerous, and Haye would do well to keep his left hand high and not throw any right-hand leads.
Haye should box cautiously to start with and break Mormeck down. Mormeck will rush in and try and put Haye under pressure, so Haye needs to survive through that and pick off Mormeck from range. Then, as the fight goes on and Mormeck gets more tired and sloppy, Haye needs to unload big counters and get on top that way. I think late KO by Haye.
Boy you Brits really are crazy about this Haye Fella aren't ya? ;D
Honestly I've never seen David Haye fight but he must hit pretty hard the way you all are talking, if so, then why the hell is he goin back down to Cruiser weight instead of KO'n some of the bums at HW?
Good question mate, i see no point going back down, but saying that even if he gets beat by Mormeck he can still go up and challenge, the thing with Haye he has very explosive power very quick right, hes just very exciting to watch but we still have to be cautious as he hasnt really been in with the elite just yet.Quote:
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Because he is in line to fight Mormeck nextQuote:
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Still, if Sam Peter, or even Lamon Brewster were in line to fight Mormeck next, would they try to drop the weight and fight him? No. It just doesn't make much sense to me, less this Haye fella is a real small HW or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Haye has very good straight right hand there is some footage of him on youtube you can watch few they don't last very long ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
But his weaknesses are his suspect chin and suspect stamina other than that good boxer who can bang very hard.