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casa will brake him down.
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Casamayor definitely could frustrate Diaz, outbox him, frustrate him with fouls but I think the time is right for Diaz in this fight. If he's ever gonna beat a guy like Casamayor it would be this Casamayor, an older one who's not in his prime. A guy who's constantly on top of you, constantly throwing punches can be a difficult fight for a guy that's not really in his prime anymore.
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Casamayor definitely could frustrate Diaz, outbox him, frustrate him with fouls but I think the time is right for Diaz in this fight. If he's ever gonna beat a guy like Casamayor it would be this Casamayor, an older one who's not in his prime. A guy who's constantly on top of you, constantly throwing punches can be a difficult fight for a guy that's not really in his prime anymore.
I agree. Casamayor 4 years ago would box circles around Diaz, Casamayor now sometimes goes defensive too long and lets the people he's fighting get rounds they really shouldn't have. I thought he beat Kid Diamond but not in the way he would have 2 years prior.
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Casamayor definitely could frustrate Diaz, outbox him, frustrate him with fouls but I think the time is right for Diaz in this fight. If he's ever gonna beat a guy like Casamayor it would be this Casamayor, an older one who's not in his prime. A guy who's constantly on top of you, constantly throwing punches can be a difficult fight for a guy that's not really in his prime anymore.
CC,totally agree. Cas looked OK against a really poor weight drained Corrales,as much as I hate to admit it,he seems on the slide whereas the Baby Bull is gaining in confidence. You're a big Diaz fan right?I remember you saying you liked him alot,you see anyone at the weight beating him?
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Casamayor definitely could frustrate Diaz, outbox him, frustrate him with fouls but I think the time is right for Diaz in this fight. If he's ever gonna beat a guy like Casamayor it would be this Casamayor, an older one who's not in his prime. A guy who's constantly on top of you, constantly throwing punches can be a difficult fight for a guy that's not really in his prime anymore.
CC,totally agree. Cas looked OK against a really poor weight drained Corrales,as much as I hate to admit it,he seems on the slide whereas the Baby Bull is gaining in confidence. You're a big Diaz fan right?I remember you saying you liked him alot,you see anyone at the weight beating him?
CC, yeah I'm a big fan so I could be overrating him. But yeah I agree that Casamayor, even though he beat Corrales, didn't look amazing. Looked a lot sharper in the first Corrales fight, and even though I thought he beat Diamond, it was a pretty bad performance.
135 is kinda weak right now. At the weight there's obviously Casamayor who definitely could beat him although I'd favor Diaz. There's Julio Diaz who's pretty dangerous, but would favor Juan. I wonder if Guzman will stay at 135, assuming he'll beat Katsidis. I don't know if I really want to see that, there two of my top five-ten favorite fighters. Katsidis would be a real action fight but I'd definitely favor Diaz.
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Other than that, who is there really at 135? Nate Campbell, and I guess people could possibly move up from 130. Valero looks like he could outgrow 130 at some point. But kind of a weak division right now.
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I want to see Manny Pacman v Diaz at a catch weight in Texas(thats' where they both fight right?) that would be MASSIVE,sell out! Im not sure who to favour at a catch weight. 135 may not be deep talent sise but there alot of fights that could be made and remember names like Campbell and Kid Diamond are around
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I want to see Manny Pacman v Diaz at a catch weight in Texas(thats' where they both fight right?) that would be MASSIVE,sell out! Im not sure who to favour at a catch weight. 135 may not be deep talent sise but there alot of fights that could be made and remember names like Campbell and Kid Diamond are around
I think pac can conquer the 135 division, but his going to have to deal with jmm first. theirs nobody really around 135 that stands out. i think even mab can rule that division.
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Diaz reminds me of an aggressive Winky with his style. Keeps his guard up and short steps into range, but he punches alot more than Winky.
I think Diaz will outwork Casa at this stage. I think Casa would win the early rounds and then Diaz pulls ahead through middle to late rounds. Probably a close unanimous decision. It would be a very good fight though.
I think Diaz is very hard to beat right now. It will take a puncher. Frietas seemed to hurt him in the 2nd but he didn't take advantage of it. He also exposed that Diaz is very open to uppercuts. Just didn't have enough on them.
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I want to see Manny Pacman v Diaz at a catch weight in Texas(thats' where they both fight right?) that would be MASSIVE,sell out! Im not sure who to favour at a catch weight. 135 may not be deep talent sise but there alot of fights that could be made and remember names like Campbell and Kid Diamond are around
I think pac can conquer the 135 division, but his going to have to deal with jmm first. theirs nobody really around 135 that stands out. i think even mab can rule that division.
I like Manny alot,I love watching him but thats a big big call and no way would MAB rule there. Manny is a small 130 pounder,guys like Juan Diaz,Katsidis etc are BIG 135 pounders. They would hit Manny harder than anyone else he's faced and are young,hungry and strong/er. Joel Casamayor would box Manny silly and has the power to keep him honest. MAB would get crushed by someone like Juan Diaz!
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He also exposed that Diaz is very open to uppercuts.
Yeah that is a problem, the way he keeps his head down coming in. It makes him harder to hit with some shots but the uppercut is there. I'm sure other fighters will concentrate on that too.
One of the problems fighting him is he gets other fighters to fight at his pace, other fighters throw more punches than usual to keep him off them. Freitas wasn't comfortable fighting at that pace, he expended too much energy early trying to keep Diaz away. Casamayor is probably smart enough to realize that and try to fight at a pace that he's used too and that could be a problem for Diaz, but then again it could just lead to him getting outworked. Its clear that judges love activity and guys that are agressive, even if Casamayor lands the cleaner shots he might not get the decision.
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Will it be a case of "Buenos Diaz"- See what i've done there Mick ;D hahaha
Linear world lightweight champion JOEL CASAMAYOR was thrilled to see undefeated World Boxing Association lightweight champion JUAN DIAZ unify the lightweight belts when he forced World Boxing Organization titleist Acelino Freitas to quit again, last Saturday, at Foxwoods Resort Casino.
"Diaz stepped up and fought a great fight taking the first step in unifying the title," said Casamayor. "Now he needs to complete the mission by going mano-a-mano with me to determine the TRUE lightweight champion. My belt from The Ring magazine -- the only belt that you can't lose outside the ring to politics, and can only win inside the ropes --against Juan's WBA and WBO straps. I am the TRUE linear champion. I wear the belt that has only been worn by the REAL lightweight champions, champions like Benny Leonard, Barney Ross, Henry Armstrong, Beau Jack, Bob Montgomery and Roberto Duran. Let's see if young Diaz wants to graduate to my level of championship education."
Casamayor, (34-3-1, 21 KOs), the former WBA super featherweight champion and a 1992 Olympic gold medalist from Cuba, captured The Ring and the World Boxing Council lightweight titles when he won a split decision over defending champion Diego Corrales, October 7, 2006.
"From what I understand, now that Juan is considered a super champion by the WBA and the WBO, he is free from immediate mandatory defense obligations so why not go for the gusto and make this great fight now," said Gary Shaw, who co-promotes Casamayor with Luis DeCubas. "Juan looked superb against a great champion and he gave boxing fans a great fight. Now let's move forward and finally unify this title once and for all with the two best in the division. Boxing deserves it and so do these two great champions."
"We welcome the chance to sit down with Don King, Juan's promoter, and make this fight a reality as soon as possible," said DeCubas.
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I want to see Manny Pacman v Diaz at a catch weight in Texas(thats' where they both fight right?) that would be MASSIVE,sell out! Im not sure who to favour at a catch weight. 135 may not be deep talent sise but there alot of fights that could be made and remember names like Campbell and Kid Diamond are around
I think pac can conquer the 135 division, but his going to have to deal with jmm first. theirs nobody really around 135 that stands out. i think even mab can rule that division.
I like Manny alot,I love watching him but thats a big big call and no way would MAB rule there. Manny is a small 130 pounder,guys like Juan Diaz,Katsidis etc are BIG 135 pounders. They would hit Manny harder than anyone else he's faced and are young,hungry and strong/er. Joel Casamayor would box Manny silly and has the power to keep him honest. MAB would get crushed by someone like Juan Diaz!
:coolclick: good point bRo. but lets just agree to disagree.
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CC back bro. If Manny can carry his power,he will be a handful for anyone but he is still small for 130 let alone the extra 5 pounds.
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I think Diaz would beat Casamayor by decision, the way he fights, he just forces the pace, it doesn't matter what you do, southpaw, awkward, it doesn't matter all Diaz does is pop pop pop and absorb the return. It'll take someone with more speed and output to beat Diaz, or someone with a big punch.
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I think this would be a great fight and should definitely happen. Until someone beats him, Casamayor is the top dog in the division. He's the linear champ, and deserves this fight--especially considering that he was the one Popo was supposed to be fighting.
I think I tend to agree with those who would favor Diaz's activity over Casa at this stage of Casa's career. Casamayor's style has reminded me of the later-stage B-Hop style in recent fights--very defensive and cagey, but very offensively inactive. I don't see Diaz landing much clean on Casa, and definitely don't see Casa getting hurt, but I don't see judges giving Casa a ton of rounds where he's throwing less than half as much as Diaz. And I don't see Diaz getting KO'd.
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I'd also LOVE to see Diaz vs. Hatton. That fight would be non-stop (unless/until Hatton starts hugging in round 6 like he has recently).
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Former two-division world champion Joel Casamayor (34-3-1, 21 KOs) has targeted WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Diaz. "Diaz stepped up and fought a great fight taking the first step in unifying the title," said Casamayor in regard to Diaz' win over Acelino Freitas. "Now he needs to complete the mission by going mano-a-mano with me to determine the TRUE lightweight champion....let's see if young Diaz wants to graduate to my level of championship education." Casamayor was stripped of the WBC lightweight title after agreeing to unify against Freitas instead of making his mandatory defense. He has not fought since defeating Diego Corrales for the title in October 2006. Casamayor is now co-promoted by Luis DeCubas and Gary Shaw.
Cracking fight this'll be and i love they way they both go at it ;)
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