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Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
Wasn't Baldomir the recognized champ in the WW division?...I believe so.....Isn't Judah regarded as one of the best fighters out there and he is almost always fighting for a title?...Yep....Hasn't he went up over 3 weight divisions and still showed dominance like no one esle?...Yep.....Has he bit off more than he can chew this time....Yep....:)
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i dont give him much credit for beating an old gatti nd mitchell but as for the rest they were all doing well at the time they fort floyd i mean ndou record was 31-1 30kos nd sosa nd corley were descent fighters, baldomir had just beaten judah who at the time was the man in that division so it made sense to fight even though there were tougher fights out there nd as for judah hes seen as a big threat to cotto the man who some think can beat floyd but the one thing i will say is he didnt fight the best fighters in LW nd WW divisions (hatton,cotto,margarito) but still claimed he was the no1 in each division nd made it seem as if there is no worthy challengers but never the less he still fort descent fighter nd is now fighting an older but bigger oscar so i do think this is gonna be a dangerous fight for him.
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yeah i agree that he has chosen his oponents very wisely in a buisnessman manner. but to be fair he is going to be fighting de la hoya on saturday so this topic is just another opporunity for people to slagg him off.
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It's real easy (and real lazy) to just go through a guys past fights and pick apart names, but look at the different styles he fought. Judah was a real tough fight for him to take, because he had similar handspeed. Judah has always been looked at as one of the most talented fighters out there, just because he took Baldomir lightly and dropped a decision didn't mean he suddenly lost all that talent he had. Floyd fought N'Dou, who was an incredibly dangerous puncher. You can point out the fact that Gatti was "old", but you forget to mention that at that time, Gatti was riding some big momentum and people considered him to now be a superior fighter than he was in younger years thanks to Buddy McGirt. Not to mention he was considered the bigger/stronger man going into the fight.
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Judah is a former P4P contender..And still probably current top 20..and a good fighter
Baldomir was the recognised champ..And obviously held one of those wbc titles that floyd holds so dear ;)
So you can certainly excuse those fights..Judah was decent competition and floyd didnt exactly pick baldo..The public said heres the recognised champ and he said easy pickings ima take his title
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i wonder if this topic will make sense IF judah beats cotto..... and look at ndous knockout ratio going into that fight .... the fight with judah was being planed before he lost to baldomir when he had succes and baldomir beat gatti ass and beat judah so he was the champ and floyd fought him because brian kenny said floyds not the champ until he fight him .... and another thing .... who should he have fought?
he called out mosely mosley said he tooth hurt he called out hatton .... hatton said he not ready ..... maragarito? are u kiddin me.......... cotto he said hell fight him iam guessing cottos ppl said cottos not ready yet he still young ....so giv me other names ....... mayb he should go up to heavyweight will u ppl be impressed then ........ some of u guys dont understand its not hes faoult fights dont get made .... and iam not sayin he nevere hand picked an oponent but u cant say hes been doin for yrears cuz that shit dont look handpicked to me
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
Name another fighter at age 30 or less that has fought better competition. The list gets narrowed down to PAC and Jermain Taylor.
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Originally Posted by the phenom
i wonder if this topic will make sense IF judah beats cotto..... and look at ndous knockout ratio going into that fight .... the fight with judah was being planed before he lost to baldomir when he had succes and baldomir beat gatti ass and beat judah so he was the champ and floyd fought him because brian kenny said floyds not the champ until he fight him .... and another thing .... who should he have fought?
he called out mosely mosley said he tooth hurt he called out hatton .... hatton said he not ready ..... maragarito? are u kiddin me.......... cotto he said hell fight him iam guessing cottos ppl said cottos not ready yet he still young ....so giv me other names ....... mayb he should go up to heavyweight will u ppl be impressed then ........ some of u guys dont understand its not hes faoult fights dont get made .... and iam not sayin he nevere hand picked an oponent but u cant say hes been doin for yrears cuz that shit dont look handpicked to me
Fair point.. I have the fight on dvd.. I believe Ndou's record was something along the lines of..
31-1-0 (30 ko's)
South african fighter but had fought all around the world! No sheltered product!
His only loss came by a late knockout i think..
Also i remember the floyd fight he came in to the ring playing celine Dion!! ;D :laugh:
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
yeah i agree that he has chosen his oponents very wisely in a buisnessman manner. but to be fair he is going to be fighting de la hoya on saturday so this topic is just another opporunity for people to slagg him off.
:coolclick: Yep Joseph agree with you totally on the last part.... Again same ol regurgitated horseshit and tired argument....... Again I will petition ring magazine, and all the respected sport writers to have injunctions against them for having Mayweather #1 PFP yep got everyone buffaloed on his status even Oscar for giving him a trillionair of a payday ::** Seriously did you just think of this topic this morning Porky ;D
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The point is the fighters he fought pre2002 were better than the one's he fought since and that might be a factor on Saturday night.
I dont blame him for fighting Baldomir as he was the champ at the time even if he was not the best fighter in the division.
As for Judah,I think he has always been way overrated.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
yeah i agree that he has chosen his oponents very wisely in a buisnessman manner. but to be fair he is going to be fighting de la hoya on saturday so this topic is just another opporunity for people to slagg him off.
:coolclick: Yep Joseph agree with you totally on the last part.... Again same ol regurgitated horseshit and tired argument....... Again I will petition ring magazine, and all the respected sport writers to have injunctions against them for having Mayweather #1 PFP yep got everyone buffaloed on his status even Oscar for giving him a trillionair of a payday ::** Seriously did you just think of this topic this morning Porky ;D
I was actualy reading ;DThe Ring,Golden Boy vs Pretty Boy special ;D when I thought of this topic now you ask. :o
On pages 38+39 it has all there fights and if you look mayweather fought better blokes pre2002.That all I said fokes,I was not trying to slag Floyd off just reading the stats as I saw them.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
yeah i agree that he has chosen his oponents very wisely in a buisnessman manner. but to be fair he is going to be fighting de la hoya on saturday so this topic is just another opporunity for people to slagg him off.
:coolclick: Yep Joseph agree with you totally on the last part.... Again same ol regurgitated horseshit and tired argument....... Again I will petition ring magazine, and all the respected sport writers to have injunctions against them for having Mayweather #1 PFP yep got everyone buffaloed on his status even Oscar for giving him a trillionair of a payday ::** Seriously did you just think of this topic this morning Porky ;D
I was actualy reading ;D
The Ring,Golden Boy vs Pretty Boy special ;D when I thought of this topic now you ask. :o
On pages 38+39 it has all there fights and if you look mayweather fought better blokes pre2002.That all I said fokes,I was not trying to slag Floyd off just reading the stats as I saw them.
Fair enough, didnt mean to sound terse to you..... Look at Oscar he hasnt had a meaningful fight since 03 Mosely...I dont put much stock in the Hopkins fight since Oscar didnt have a snowballs chance in hell of winning and Hopkins never really asserted himself until late in the fight and when he did Oscar got his liver checked... Luckily for Delahoya, Hopkins wasnt head hunting ;)
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
yeah i agree that he has chosen his oponents very wisely in a buisnessman manner. but to be fair he is going to be fighting de la hoya on saturday so this topic is just another opporunity for people to slagg him off.
:coolclick: Yep Joseph agree with you totally on the last part.... Again same ol regurgitated horseshit and tired argument....... Again I will petition ring magazine, and all the respected sport writers to have injunctions against them for having Mayweather #1 PFP yep got everyone buffaloed on his status even Oscar for giving him a trillionair of a payday ::** Seriously did you just think of this topic this morning Porky ;D
I was actualy reading ;D
The Ring,Golden Boy vs Pretty Boy special ;D when I thought of this topic now you ask. :o
On pages 38+39 it has all there fights and if you look mayweather fought better blokes pre2002.That all I said fokes,I was not trying to slag Floyd off just reading the stats as I saw them.
Fair enough, didnt mean to sound terse to you..... Look at Oscar he hasnt had a meaningful fight since 03 Mosely...I dont put much stock in the Hopkins fight since Oscar didnt have a snowballs chance in hell of winning and Hopkins never really asserted himself until late in the fight and when he did Oscar got his liver checked... Luckily for Delahoya, Hopkins wasnt head hunting ;)
I agree Oscar has done nothing in the last 3 years or so.
But in the past he has always been willing to fight the best out there and I dont think anyone could say different to that.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
Um who has faced that much better of competition? Corley(at the time), Baldomir, Judah, Sosa, Gatti, N'Dou were are credible opponents. He nearly as good of opponents as anyone especially of late(minus the Mitchell fight). He has foughten the standing welterweight champion, former welterweight champion, WBC super lightweight champ. I think all the way back to 2002 Pacquaio has foughten better opponents, and same with Winky, and Taylor, but either than those three I can't think of anyone. Since then PAcquaio is only fighting his first real opponent since his first fight with MOrrales.
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When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.
PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena ??? instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
Name another fighter at age 30 or less that has fought better competition. The list gets narrowed down to PAC and Jermain Taylor.
ODLH baby!!!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.
PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena ??? instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?
A man who talks senes.
Have a CC.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.
PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena ??? instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?
A man who talks senes.
Have a CC.
CC#117 on me porkyparra the facts are there and if someone can reasonably justify how Augustus & Jukko got a shot at PBF I'll completely shut my mouth up and won't say anything more on the matter.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.
PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena ??? instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?
He fought Corrales thats the best at Super featherweight. PERIOD. He fought the best at Lightweight IN castillo. He fought Baldomir who could very easily IMO beat most other people in the welterweight division. I see him beating Margaritto, maybe Cotto, but not MOsley.
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The fact is that most elite fighters have their opponents hand picked. The main deciding factor usually being..."Who's going to make me more money". This is nothing new. Take, for example....well...this fight.
We can go through DLH's record and find ALOT of low risk opponents. Heck, if you think about it, even Mously was regarded as low risk. The first time he had just recently moved up from lightweight and had a tough fight with Wilfredo Rivera who pretty much walked through most of his shots. And in the seccond fight, Mously was 0-2-1 no contest in his last three fights.
My point is, this is no big deal and it is not new. Not for some time now.
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He fought Corrales thats the best at Super featherweight. PERIOD.
Figures.
I bet you also think he fought the best when he fought Zab right?
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He fought the best at Lightweight IN castillo.
Yes he did and he lost. Unfortunate for JLC he wasnt granted what he had rightfully earned.
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He fought Baldomir who could very easily IMO beat most other people in the welterweight division. I see him beating Margaritto, maybe Cotto, but not MOsley.
Ah!! sh*t! Now I've heard it all....
Taeth for the most part I'll disagree with someone BUT if they are right they are right and I'll give them credit. But when they say stuff like this I got laugh.
Yes Baldomir was the champ.
Yes Baldomir was considered the best.
But there is NO DOUBT in my mind he looses to Margarito, SSM and Cotto will flat out beat him from pillar to post. Baldomir doesn't take shots to the body well at all he showed that when Gatti threw downstairs and he also showed that against another lesser know opponent by the name of Jose Cruz. Who was behind on the fight and fought back by attacking the body and climbed back to get a draw. The featherfisted Baldomir probably has about 1 or 2 more fights in his career he himself has said hes getting old. For you to make the comment you made IMO is stretching out reality as far as it can be stretched. Now I'm gonna hear if Baldomir fought Margarito in his prime right?
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8) Cut ME Mick I couldnt agree with you more! ! ! 8)
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I dont know this Mayweather bashing gets quite tetious at times and old and redundant and quite frankly boring seriously boring!!!!!!!!
1) is ring the respected rating organization in the sport?? YES!!!!! Who is there #1 PFP fighter?? Floyd Mayweather jr hope that helps ;)
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People please! Even if you are the biggest Floyd fan in the world...you are doing him discredit and making him look bad by saying he has fought great opposition. It always makes me laugh when Floyd fans start listing out the names: Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, Judah, etc. The man is a great fighter...no doubt...but his resume in the last few years is pitiful. This might be his fault or not....but that's the reality. You can try and sugar coat his opponents: Gatti was a tough guy, Baldomir was the champ, Judah is super talented, blah, blah, blah.....it's total bs.....Floyd knows it....and deep down so do his fans. Not saying he cannot fight great fighters and beat them...but so far he hasn't.
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8) Mayweather might not be there for long so say it again while you still got time! ;D
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Originally Posted by Rick_Rack
8) Cut ME Mick I couldnt agree with you more! ! ! 8)
Thanks man, just calling it how I see it.
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I dont know this Mayweather bashing gets quite tetious at times and old and redundant and quite frankly boring seriously boring!!!!!!!!
I know what you mean, it's happened to me with JCC, Margarito and ODLH.
Oddly enough they all back up their talk and still get downgraded, go figure ???
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Originally Posted by zhubin
People please! Even if you are the biggest Floyd fan in the world...you are doing him discredit and making him look bad by saying he has fought great opposition. It always makes me laugh when Floyd fans start listing out the names: Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, Judah, etc. The man is a great fighter...no doubt...but his resume in the last few years is pitiful. This might be his fault or not....but that's the reality. You can try and sugar coat his opponents: Gatti was a tough guy, Baldomir was the champ, Judah is super talented, blah, blah, blah.....it's total bs.....Floyd knows it....and deep down so do his fans. Not saying he cannot fight great fighters and beat them...but so far he hasn't.
And I'm with 'ya....
There is NO DOUBT in my mind PBF is the most athletic, skilled boxer out there that I don't think anyone questions.
What is questioned is his quality of opposition and the fact that he claims to have fought the best.
Thats whats in question here and thats whats been questioned always. I don't I've ever read a post where someone bashe PBF for his skills and for anyone to do so would be ignorant.
Now his record/opposition that my friends is a horse of a different color theres a lot questions there.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
:coolclick: good point and thats why we don't have him as our p4p king anymore, we have the pacman and the wizard winky.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.
PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena ??? instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?
:coolclick: +1447 another good point you guys are awesome!!!!!
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Originally Posted by zhubin
People please! Even if you are the biggest Floyd fan in the world...you are doing him discredit and making him look bad by saying he has fought great opposition. It always makes me laugh when Floyd fans start listing out the names: Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, Judah, etc. The man is a great fighter...no doubt...but his resume in the last few years is pitiful. This might be his fault or not....but that's the reality. You can try and sugar coat his opponents: Gatti was a tough guy, Baldomir was the champ, Judah is super talented, blah, blah, blah.....it's total bs.....Floyd knows it....and deep down so do his fans. Not saying he cannot fight great fighters and beat them...but so far he hasn't.
:coolclick: +48 good point bRo
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Originally Posted by Rick_Rack
8) Cut ME Mick I couldnt agree with you more! ! ! 8)
Thanks man, just calling it how I see it.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I dont know this Mayweather bashing gets quite tetious at times and old and redundant and quite frankly boring seriously boring!!!!!!!!
I know what you mean, it's happened to me with
JCC, Margarito and
ODLH.
Oddly enough they all back up their talk and still get downgraded, go figure ???
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Originally Posted by zhubin
People please! Even if you are the biggest Floyd fan in the world...you are doing him discredit and making him look bad by saying he has fought great opposition. It always makes me laugh when Floyd fans start listing out the names: Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, Judah, etc. The man is a great fighter...no doubt...but his resume in the last few years is pitiful. This might be his fault or not....but that's the reality. You can try and sugar coat his opponents: Gatti was a tough guy, Baldomir was the champ, Judah is super talented, blah, blah, blah.....it's total bs.....Floyd knows it....and deep down so do his fans. Not saying he cannot fight great fighters and beat them...but so far he hasn't.
And I'm with 'ya....
There is NO DOUBT in my mind PBF is the most athletic, skilled boxer out there that I don't think anyone questions.
What is questioned is his quality of opposition and the fact that he claims to have fought the best.
Thats whats in question here and thats whats been questioned always. I don't I've ever read a post where someone bashe PBF for his skills and for anyone to do so would be ignorant.
Now his record/opposition that my friends is a horse of a different color theres a lot questions there.
I cant see why anyone would have fault with either Chavez or Delahoya they are genuine warriors and badasses.... Sorry I am the guy you are talking about when it comes to Margarito... Dont rate him worth a damn if Clottey didnt get hurt Margarito was getting the L, if he busts up Williams then I will give burrito his props
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8) Floyd just may be as you say for now but who knows after this coming weekend he will be exposed even if he out points Oscar but he better watch out for the left hand Oscar can unleash at anytime in that fight! 8)
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8) Floyd just may be as you say for now but who knows after this coming weekend he will be exposed even if he out points Oscar but he better watch out for the left hand Oscar can unleash at anytime in that fight! 8)
Since when is Oscars left the end all be all ::** Mayweathers chin is fine and his defense is tight... Mayorga would let anyone with a pulse look good...... Last fight, last impression
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8) Mayweather hasn't really been tested yet by a fighter of this caliber dont you uderstand what I am trying to say to you? Mayweather has never fought or got hit by someone thats this powerful. Maybe your right and everything will be like you say. Doubt it though if your so sure you should have your bet in already and I no your going to tell me you do. If your so sure you can retire there stud. AS I said Doubt it! That kid is going to be tested even Im saying I think the kid will still win on points but wont be suprised if Oscar takes him out! 8)
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
:coolclick: good point and thats why we don't have him as our p4p king anymore, we have the pacman and the wizard winky.
Back at you fella.CC
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
Mayweather's opponents have not been the Delahoya level no way, but he has fought decent guys. Hagler fought those kind of guys until he fought Duran/Hearns and Leonard. Who was mayweather supposed to fight? Margarito? I think the thing is that Mayweather's camp knows Margarito is tough and probably a harder fight than Delahoya... So why fight him for not much reward? But Mayweather has fought decent enough guys. Not HOF guys but good guys.
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
This can be said of many fighters of late...Calzaghe, Hatton, Cotto, & the list goes on & on.
Just to elaborate a bit...Brusseles I can't embelish on.
Gatti was #2 at the time, HBO's poster bwoy, & a huge money match that Floyd didn't even want.
Sosa & N'dou were worthy contenders as was Corlely while Floyd was on the move up.
Mitchell was another no brainer, IWO, just like Brusseles.
Baldomir was the linear ranked champ & had pretty much hammered Judah the fwock out.
Judah was a huge fight that Floyd had wanted for years & he was coming off of a KO win over Spinks. Worthy opponent & a fight fans dream match.
Oscar is the fight that Floyd has wanted his entire career...Oscar denied him early on stating that he was not worthy...the money was now right & Floyd lands his dream fight...
As I said...as far as careful matching...the same can be said of most champions to date.
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.
Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.
The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.
I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.
Cant wait. ;D
Newsflash ding bat; EVERYONE'S opponents are handpicked! ;D
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
all top fighters hand pick there opponents now days. stop looking for something to bitch about.
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
I wanted to add that the guys Mayweather fought were guys Delahoya would not have beaten any more conclusively.. Maybe Oscar had a little more power, but Mayweather has fought some good decent guys. Genaro Hernandez, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Corrales, Castillo and on and on. Not a bad list at all. If I were a manager I would think those guys are not hand picked. True he has not fought the cream of the crop, but sometimes it takes getting to that superfight point to get the superfights. If he beats Oscar, they will line up guys for him of that caliber. Mosely,Wright, etc. I think the problem with Floyd at 154 is that I think the weight itself could beat him more than the fighters. The intrigue here is not Oscar since I know if Floyd were Oscar's size he would demolish him. Oscar's size or any good 154 pound fight with a longer reach and the experience or talent to use that reach and fight effectively could beat Floyd. Wright would be an interesting fight for Floyd . Sat. Night is a matter of can Floyd beat a good 154 pound fighter in a pressure fight. He is a small fighter who should not be fighting at 154. He is too small. If you look at Roberto Duran at 154 he was big compared to Floyd at the weight. As a matter of fact Roberto was not the small guy everyone thinks he was. He matched up well sizewise against other guys.