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I don't think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
No the closest he came was in the late 90's but Roy Jones already had the position on lockdown for years.
i thought he was for 1 year but he was always in 2nd place behind Roy
Yeah it's basically gone Whitaker, Roy and now Floyd. There were some stop gaps in between but they have largely held down the spot for the last 15 years.
he was closest to that status during odlh vs tito
rjj even said i'll cut off one of my legs to make weight in order to fight tito!
Yep, this is basically how it's gone for the last ~15 years. The only guy I'd add is Hopkins, who was considered #1 from after Roy's loss to Tarver until BHop lost himself to Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Oscar's never been considered #1.
He may not have been #1 but has managed to stay on the list longer then most when he was fighting full time
That's a good point. He probably broke on the list just a couple years deep and was never removed from the list really until his loss to Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Yeah he was a for a bit, but it was heavily disputed. The funny thing is he's only been Ring champion at super welterweight.
bhop had it before floyd, floyd got the spot when bhop lost to j.t and there was no one but floyd that was close that hasn't been beaten so floyd got the spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Pac fans might argue that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
this is a good question. had he gotten the w over tito i'm sure he would have been P4P 1 then.
i thought shane had it right before he loss to vernon. bhop had it when roy fell off.
i don't get it ??? but nice pics of floyd and oscar, floyd looks a little fruity on the canvas. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairdoo
we wont argue.. who cares about p4p anyway.. at least we know our fighter has balls to fight the best and fight to the full meaning of fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairdoo
Well I'm slightly off but it was only 6mths after Hopkins lost that Manny KTFO Morales which it could be argued placed him at no.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
The only 2 fights Floyd had that year before Hopkins lost was Gatti and Bruseles.
It'd probably help... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Oscar and Roy have had very different careers. Oscar fought better guys who were older for awhile.. yet Roy dominated more. if I had to say who was the better fighter I would say Roy. The way he beat James Toney and Virgil Hill was impressive. He beat them both differently. James he beat easily on points, and Virgil was doing better than James Toney yet he got stopped
I have a question. Is there an official p4p list? (I am not being sarcastic, I truely want to know)
I was under the impression that Mously was briefly concidered #1 before his loss to Forrest and Tito was considered by many #1 after his great run that ended when he faced Hopkins. Then Hopkins took over until his loss to JT. After that it was Floyd.
It was not Roy's loss to Tarver that took away his #1p4p status. It was because of the widely held opinion that he had not been truely challenged for several years.
As Larry Merchant put it once "The pound for pound list is more of a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately list"
Agreed. Roy had that position locked down before De La Hoya achieved his biggest wins IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Hairdoo
You are right in some respect the p4p is definitely debateable at times but if you go back and compare their competition I think people in general were a little tough on Jones because he made such easy work of his opponents from Middleweight all the way up to Heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
Tito was a hell of a Welterweight but I don't think that ever earned the no. 1 spot.
Mosley wasn't considered until he beat Oscar and before he lost to Forrest he KO'd Diaz 35-2, Taylor 28-0 and Stone 30-3. In that time frame Jones KO'd Harding 19-0, Harmon 20-1 and Gonzalez 27-0. So I don't think with Jones previous accomplishments Mosley ever did enough to bump him from the spot. ;)