Who is the best young Heavyweight prospect?

Who is the best young Heavyweight prospect out there? I will give a short list, though if you think it is someone else go ahead and mention them.

Alexander Povetkin 11-0 (9)
Christian Arreola 19-0 (17)
Malik Scott 26-0 (10)
Kevin Johnson 13-0-1 (5)
Roman Greenburg 24-0 (17)
Chazz Witherspoon 17-0 (11)
JD Chapman 26-0 (23)
Alonzo Butler 25-0-1 (18)
Travis Walker 23-0-1 (17)
Shane Camerson 18-0 (16)
Steve Herelius 13-0 (9)
Egon Roth 17-0 (13)

I know its tough to pick one. I've got my thoughts, but I'm just curious to see what all you experts think.

Well from the ones you listed I've only seen, Povetkin, Arreola, Scott, Greeburg, JD.
Funny the youngest is 26 and the oldest is Hereluis whois 30 and I don't consider him young espcially taking into consideration he has only 13 fights.

Uuuummm! I think from that lot I would side with Greenburg slightly BUT he lacks power IMO, I also like Arreola but he lacks some skills and needs to work on that dept. I also think those 2 have fought the better opposition out of the lot.

I would also like to add Eddie Chambers & Dimitrenko to the list.

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Originally Posted by Goyo

Who is the best young Heavyweight prospect out there? I will give a short list, though if you think it is someone else go ahead and mention them.

Alexander Povetkin 11-0 (9)
Christian Arreola 19-0 (17)
Malik Scott 26-0 (10)
Kevin Johnson 13-0-1 (5)
Roman Greenburg 24-0 (17)
Chazz Witherspoon 17-0 (11)
JD Chapman 26-0 (23)
Alonzo Butler 25-0-1 (18)
Travis Walker 23-0-1 (17)
Shane Camerson 18-0 (16)
Steve Herelius 13-0 (9)
Egon Roth 17-0 (13)

I know its tough to pick one. I've got my thoughts, but I'm just curious to see what all you experts think.

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CC #4 bro! good thread!

Yeah Chambers definitely belongs up there. He is so relaxed in the pocket, makes his punches worth his money and he's slick. He has great poise, punches in combinations and is very fast. You just wonder how his body will hold up at heavyweight. If you took anything out of the Rossey fight, it was that even though he carried some weight around his stomach, he got better as the fight went along against the physically imposing Rossey in the guy's backyard. He has all the skills and has a lot of polish, but he really isn't a natural heavyweight so you never know.

Witherspoon is class imo. 100 punches a round, he has good instincts and he is built like a tight end. Not the prettiest fighter ;D But he is really going to be something. I mean, when he develops his all around skills a bit, how are heavyweights going to deal with that level of activity? A track and basketball star in school, very athletic. He will make a big splash imo.

Another guy, a guy I really like, and I've been talking about him for months and hopefully years to come, a guy who could completely change the face of the division if he is brought up right, Cleveland's Aaron Williams. Cruiserweight as of right now but only 20 years old. He'll grow into a heavyweight though. Had an excellent amateur career out of Cleveland. Now he's a pro. Really fast. Works well with both hands. Punches in high volume. Has good defense. Decent pop. Throws real straight and doesn't throw the same combo twice. Works good from the outside and and inside out. REALLY someone to look out for. He's another guy who has an exceedingly high workrate for a heavy guy. Won't be long before he starts headlining big cards, a gem.

Absolute manchild and I really really believe he has the potential to be something special. Watching him fight is like watching a welterweight, Paul Williams or somebody in terms of his offense fight, 6'2 I believe with a giant reach, and he knows how to slip a punch. I don't know what his plans are for his future and what division, he fought on the 18th as a cruiserweight, but he is going to be special and as a heavyweight imo.

Yeah, I would definitely add Chambers and Dimitrenko. Don't count out Jason Estrada yet either. He looked like he got his act together, lost 20 lbs, for his last fight when he pushed around Zack Page. Taras Bidenko is another one. Vladimir Virchis. People say the heavyweight division is dead. I don't think so... There are a lot of talented guys out there. They've just got to move quicker... make these fights. How about a tournament between the top eight prospects, and the winner gets a title shot?

There is something extra-tough about Arreola that I like. He will be very tough to beat.

Also, Malik Scott has excellent skills. They've been protecting him for quite a while now. He's young, but I think just about now they will start to make their move with him. I think he will outbox Charles Shufford, something like 100-90, on Friday night.

I would say Sam Peter age 26 W28 L1 D0 22KO'S number 1 WBC contender only defeat against devisions best Wlad and 2 good wins over James Toney

Chazz Witherspoon.

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Yeah Chambers definitely belongs up there. He is so relaxed in the pocket, makes his punches worth his money and he's slick. He has great poise, punches in combinations and is very fast. You just wonder how his body will hold up at heavyweight. If you took anything out of the Rossey fight, it was that even though he carried some weight around his stomach, he got better as the fight went along against the physically imposing Rossey in the guy's backyard. He has all the skills and has a lot of polish, but he really isn't a natural heavyweight so you never know.

Witherspoon is class imo. 100 punches a round, he has good instincts and he is built like a tight end. Not the prettiest fighter ;D But he is really going to be something. I mean, when he develops his all around skills a bit, how are heavyweights going to deal with that level of activity? A track and basketball star in school, very athletic. He will make a big splash imo.

Another guy, a guy I really like, and I've been talking about him for months and hopefully years to come, a guy who could completely change the face of the division if he is brought up right, Cleveland's Aaron Williams. Cruiserweight as of right now but only 20 years old. He'll grow into a heavyweight though. Had an excellent amateur career out of Cleveland. Now he's a pro. Really fast. Works well with both hands. Punches in high volume. Has good defense. Decent pop. Throws real straight and doesn't throw the same combo twice. Works good from the outside and and inside out. REALLY someone to look out for. He's another guy who has an exceedingly high workrate for a heavy guy. Won't be long before he starts headlining big cards, a gem.

Absolute manchild and I really really believe he has the potential to be something special. Watching him fight is like watching a welterweight, Paul Williams or somebody in terms of his offense fight, 6'2 I believe with a giant reach, and he knows how to slip a punch. I don't know what his plans are for his future and what division, he fought on the 18th as a cruiserweight, but he is going to be special and as a heavyweight imo.

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Witherspoon needs to increase his KO power.....

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I would say Sam Peter age 26 W28 L1 D0 22KO'S number 1 WBC contender only defeat against devisions best Wlad and 2 good wins over James Toney

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I counted only one good win and one gifted decision...,but still big name no prospect anymore...

Peter has definately reached contender status. Dimitrenko is nearly bordering on it as well, though he really hasn't fought anyone. He's still a 'prospect'. Chambers too...he's real skilled but just a little too small, I think, in this day and age at heavy. He could certainly win a world title at Cruiser...maybe take over the division. How about Chambers vs. Chris Byrd? Here's a second list of less-experienced prospects. Alot of these guys are untested, and most of them I haven't even seen... Any feedback would be cool. Who are the future contenders from this pack?

Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Teki Oruh 13-0-1 (5)
Devin Vargas 11-0 (5)
Joey Abell 14-1 (14)
Bermane Stiverne 14-0 (14)
Oleg Platov 25-1 (21)
Mariusz Wach 12-0 (5)
Rene Dettweiler 20-1 (10)
Alex Mazikin 10-1 (2)
Donnell Holmes 26-0-2 (23)

I suspect that Abell is somewhat of a novice. Vargas has skills, though I'm gonna say Wach and Mazikin would meet in the finals of a tournament between these guys.

Chazz and Povetkin.....those are the best so far

Arreola and Vargas might have a shot too

Tekeh Oruh intrigues me. The guy is HUGE, and apparently he had a good amateur career before joining the military. I've seen video of the guy on another computer and he looked really fast.

There is a guy out of Canad named Bermaine "Beware" Stiverne. I'd keep an eye on him . He is 12-0 with all wins coming by ko. I have seen him fight twicw and he moves nicly for a big man. He is very atheltic.

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Tekeh Oruh intrigues me. The guy is HUGE, and apparently he had a good amateur career before joining the military. I've seen video of the guy on another computer and he looked really fast.

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I am very close friends with Teke and he is the most down to earth fun loving guy you ever want to meet.. I took him to spar with Wlad Klitschko for his fightwith Charles Shufford a few years ago, he only did about 2 rounds and was way over his head.. He is not as comfortable with Sparring and even fighting as i would like , he loves boxing but is not as comitted as he could be.. Kevin Barry (of David Tua fame) trains him and he seems to be pushing him to his limits.. He is a chunky build and if left to his own devices would box at 280 pounds. 235 is optimum but he needs to be pushed constantly. He had a bad experience last year in sparring, he was knocked out cold by Samuel Peter in sparring and it made him horrendously gunshy.. I hope he can find his way but i truthfully wish he would overcome his fears and start to box even at lower class of opponent.. Teke is a class act and he deserves happiness but if he doesn't clean up his act fast i fear the impatient Goosens may cut him loose. God bless.

Yeah that's how I saw him, someone from Goosen-Tutor had a video of him on his computer and he was seated next to me. He told me a bit about him and then I watched the fight. Oruh had just taken a fight on Shobox I believe and he really had high hopes for him, nothing to lead me to believe they were waiting for him. Thanks for that and for being objective. Have your 3rd CC.

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Peter has definately reached contender status. Dimitrenko is nearly bordering on it as well, though he really hasn't fought anyone. He's still a 'prospect'. Chambers too...he's real skilled but just a little too small, I think, in this day and age at heavy. He could certainly win a world title at Cruiser...maybe take over the division. How about Chambers vs. Chris Byrd? Here's a second list of less-experienced prospects. Alot of these guys are untested, and most of them I haven't even seen... Any feedback would be cool. Who are the future contenders from this pack?

Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Teki Oruh 13-0-1 (5)
Devin Vargas 11-0 (5)
Joey Abell 14-1 (14)
Bermane Stiverne 14-0 (14)
Oleg Platov 25-1 (21)
Mariusz Wach 12-0 (5)
Rene Dettweiler 20-1 (10)
Alex Mazikin 10-1 (2)
Donnell Holmes 26-0-2 (23)

I suspect that Abell is somewhat of a novice. Vargas has skills, though I'm gonna say Wach and Mazikin would meet in the finals of a tournament between these guys.

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If I could fight like Micahel Marone, I wouldn't.

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Peter has definately reached contender status. Dimitrenko is nearly bordering on it as well, though he really hasn't fought anyone. He's still a 'prospect'. Chambers too...he's real skilled but just a little too small, I think, in this day and age at heavy. He could certainly win a world title at Cruiser...maybe take over the division. How about Chambers vs. Chris Byrd? Here's a second list of less-experienced prospects. Alot of these guys are untested, and most of them I haven't even seen... Any feedback would be cool. Who are the future contenders from this pack?

Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Teki Oruh 13-0-1 (5)
Devin Vargas 11-0 (5)
Joey Abell 14-1 (14)
Bermane Stiverne 14-0 (14)
Oleg Platov 25-1 (21)
Mariusz Wach 12-0 (5)
Rene Dettweiler 20-1 (10)
Alex Mazikin 10-1 (2)
Donnell Holmes 26-0-2 (23)

I suspect that Abell is somewhat of a novice. Vargas has skills, though I'm gonna say Wach and Mazikin would meet in the finals of a tournament between these guys.

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If I could fight like Micahel Marone, I wouldn't.

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Hahaha and isn't he trained by Angelo Dundee? I could be mistaken but I believe so. Or maybe he had prior training with him. Or maybe I'm completely off my block either way it's amazing one of these jobbers hasn't KO'd him imo.

Marone is a disaster waiting to happen. Dundee or no Dundee. Estrada, well, I guess I disagree. I've counted him out.

Chris "The Nipple" Arreola. Crazy Name. Very Ugly. Also a pretty good fighter with some real potential. I've only seen him once or twice, but I was impressed. Witherspoon lookes good, too.

I can't comment on the others. To me, Chambers has moved beyond the "Prospect" label. Right now hes a borderline contender, and if he wins tonight, he'll move right to contender status.

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Peter has definately reached contender status. Dimitrenko is nearly bordering on it as well, though he really hasn't fought anyone. He's still a 'prospect'. Chambers too...he's real skilled but just a little too small, I think, in this day and age at heavy. He could certainly win a world title at Cruiser...maybe take over the division. How about Chambers vs. Chris Byrd? Here's a second list of less-experienced prospects. Alot of these guys are untested, and most of them I haven't even seen... Any feedback would be cool. Who are the future contenders from this pack?

Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Teki Oruh 13-0-1 (5)
Devin Vargas 11-0 (5)
Joey Abell 14-1 (14)
Bermane Stiverne 14-0 (14)
Oleg Platov 25-1 (21)
Mariusz Wach 12-0 (5)
Rene Dettweiler 20-1 (10)
Alex Mazikin 10-1 (2)
Donnell Holmes 26-0-2 (23)

I suspect that Abell is somewhat of a novice. Vargas has skills, though I'm gonna say Wach and Mazikin would meet in the finals of a tournament between these guys.

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If I could fight like Micahel Marone, I wouldn't.

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Hahaha and isn't he trained by Angelo Dundee? I could be mistaken but I believe so. Or maybe he had prior training with him. Or maybe I'm completely off my block either way it's amazing one of these jobbers hasn't KO'd him imo.

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tRAINED BY lOU dUVA WHO COULD PROBABLY BEAT HIM.

Thought this would be good to post here since we were actually talking about them specifically. :)


WBO ranked#13 and IBF ranked #12 heavyweight Eddie Chambers moved to 28-0 (16 KOs) won a ten round unanimous decision over former contender Dominick Guinn on Friday night at the Palm Casino Resort in Las Vegas. The unbeaten Chambers' quickness was the difference as he outworked Guinn to get the victory, Chambers successfully defended his USBA title.

Undefeated heavyweight Cristobal Arreola moved to 20-0 (18 KOs) scored an explosive eighth round knockout over late sub Malcolm Tann. It was crowd-pleasing as both fighters were happy to exchange punches, but Arreola's aggressiveness broke Tann down and Arreloa finally blasted him through the ropes in the eighth rd.


Unbeaten heavyweight Malik Scott moved to 28-0 (10 KOs) with a unanimous decision over Charles Shufford.

I was really hoping to see the Arreola/ Vargas fight would have told us a lot about each guy.

Atleast Arreola is entertaining!

There were talks of Chamber Vs. Arreola, but I doubt that will happen because they both are Goosen fighters?

Suppose you could class David Haye as a heayweight prospect? Once he's up there with cruiser weight restraints off he'll be a hand full.

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There were talks of Chamber Vs. Arreola, but I doubt that will happen because they both are Goosen fighters?

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Too bad. "Nipples" (ugh) is made to order for Fast Eddie. Brutal counters would cut him to ribbons. If Tan could connect, imagine what Chambers wourl do with double hooks and following straight rights. Slaughter City!

Chaz has no power. Pity. He is a decent boxer.

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There were talks of Chamber Vs. Arreola, but I doubt that will happen because they both are Goosen fighters?

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Too bad. "Nipples" (ugh) is made to order for Fast Eddie. Brutal counters would cut him to ribbons. If Tan could connect, imagine what Chambers wourl do with double hooks and following straight rights. Slaughter City!

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You are probably right on that. Chambers is 10x as fast and he would counter Chris all day, but Nipples work rate and bodywork might make it a pretty tough fight for Chambers. Time after time last night, I saw Guinn start to mount an offensive. He would get Chambers on the ropes, throw one good combo, then stop. I would be interested in this fight to see what Chamber can do against a pressure fighter.

Still, Arreola isn't that big a puncher, and Chambers seems to take punches pretty well. It might be a good fight to see.

i heard about boytsov and there's been a lot of hype about him (despite his soft resume of jobbers)

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Suppose you could class David Haye as a heayweight prospect? Once he's up there with cruiser weight restraints off he'll be a hand full.

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He did a heavyweight in 1 round last week and once hes got his latest cruiserweight bout out of the way i expect him to be challenging for a title...then again i said that about Harrison and i think Harrisson inflicted Hayes only defeat as well :o :o ;D

what do i know eh??? LOL!! ;D