De L Hoya and Mayweather both need the win to be considerd ALL TIME GREATS!!!

IMO this fight is for a lot more than the WBC paper belt that is officially on the line.


Both fighters need the win to be guarantied to be considered all time greats.

They both have beaten some of the best fighters around from the last 10 years or so but there is still a lot of doubt of how good they are.You only have to read some of the threads on here to know that.


They have both beat lots of very very good boxers but what great fighter in his prime have ether of them beat???

Who ever wins will almost defiantly be regarded as the best fighter of there era and an all time great.

GREATNESS IS UP FOR GRABS ON THE 5TH!!!

I see your vision, you would be a great promoter, you are hyping it but I disagree. Both have had wonderful careers, won belts in different weight classes, won big fights, and have had long gevity. As much as I hate Oscar he is an all time great and so is Mayweather, this fight will only enhance the winners legacy.

ODH is already an all time great, PBF needs someone to spark off to cement his name.

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Yeah...I agree...Oscar's already a great...but I think everyone's just a bit harsh on Floyd.

Floyd's a great too...& he stamps greatness on his resume if he outboxes the bigger, stronger man in Oscar this weekend.

Some people think ODLH is an all time great, some people dont.

He lost key fights in his carrer.

If he wins this fight he cant be denied greatness.

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Some people think ODLH is an all time great, some people dont.

He lost key fights in his carrer.

If he wins this fight he cant be denied greatness.

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I dont go in for excessive generalisations.

This is an interesting matchup and hopefully it will be a good fight. I think Floyd outsmarts Oscar.

If Floyd wins and retires then he is not an all time great IMO. Oscar, as interesting as his career has been and as popular as he is, is not an all time great either.

If Floyd continues and succeeds then he is potentially an all time great...




























Perhaps I do generalise :)

SO IN THEORY, IF THEY GET A DRAW THEY WILL BOTH BE GREATS O0

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SO IN THEORY, IF THEY GET A DRAW THEY WILL BOTH BE GREATS O0

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how did you work that out?

JUST MESSIN' AROUND, DON'T THINK TOO DEEP INTO IT ;D

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JUST MESSIN' AROUND, DON'T THINK TOO DEEP INTO IT ;D

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Ok.

By the way do you have to keep SHOUTING ALL THE TIME,if you know what I mean. ;D

IMA FLOYD FAN....I GOTTA BE LOUD!! LOL

What happens if there is a draw? ???

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What happens if there is a draw? ???

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In the words of Don King"REMATCH BABY" O0

They are both ATG's.

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Originally Posted by porkypara

IMO this fight is for a lot more than the WBC paper belt that is officially on the line.


Both fighters need the win to be guarantied to be considered all time greats.

They both have beaten some of the best fighters around from the last 10 years or so but there is still a lot of doubt of how good they are.You only have to read some of the threads on here to know that.


They have both beat lots of very very good boxers but what great fighter in his prime have ether of them beat???

Who ever wins will almost defiantly be regarded as the best fighter of there era and an all time great.

GREATNESS IS UP FOR GRABS ON THE 5TH!!!

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what great boxer has pbf beat?

I don't think neither one is an all time great, as much as i like oscar imo he has miss out on big wins over tito bhop and mosley. I think oscar really needs to realize he can't let another great win get away when he fights floyd he has done it against tito and mosley. imagin if he got those wins now, he would really be a great and adding floyd would cement that.

but so far i think oscars biggest wins are pernell whittaker, and two wins over old JCC. I would include vargas but i always thought he was overhype, i would include ike but that was such a close fight. oooh and the fight with felix sturm doesn't help either.

So imo i can't say oscar is an all time great. His popularity would have the average fun think his an all time great though.

As for floyd i think his biggest win are against chico and castillo. I think chico is great but he use his heart more then his brains so i think his the gatti in oscars resume. as for castillo i thought he actually beat floyd the first fight but floyd dominated him the second time. to make things short. floyd hasn't beaten any fighter like a pernell whittaker or a JCC and oscar has but still i dont' consider oscar a great so most def i won't consider floyd one.

To be fair Floyd has the skills to potential be an all time great but he has wasted his time on lesser fighter so i can't say he really is until he proves it against better oppenents.

Oscar is a multiple world champ and although he has losses to Trinidad and Mosley his legacy is assured.
He has also been great for boxing these past ten years and it doesn't matter if you like him or not, he has fought the best out there probably when he didn't have to.
He was robbed against Trinidad and the second Mosley fight was really his.
I believe he has only lost two fights, Mosley 1 and Hopkins. Mayweather needs his scalp more DLH needs his. If Mayweather wins this week then he deserves all credit due to him because the odds are stacked against him in this fight. His legacy depends on this result, a loss means it's back to 147lb and two years of cleaning up Cotto, Margo and whoever else challenges him.