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How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
I think this one comes down to the basic difference between biggest guy, and big guy. Each must fight to his own strengths - I don't see any other way to ensure victory.
PBF - Use your lightning speed to dart in and out of range constantly for first quarter, deliberately sacrificing these three rounds, but throwing a token jab every few seconds to avoid DQ, and also to conserve bone strength. During this time, concentrate on making DLH MISS - not simply dodging his punches, but actually provoke him into increasing his workrate at the expense of accuracy, so as to slow him down later. Use any and all opportunities to counter, which should increase in frequency as the fight progresses and as he wears down. Jabslip at all times.
DLH - Walk him down, take his best shots and trade from the opening bell. Though he's fast, no human can walk backwards as fast as you can walk forwards. Impose your size/strength advantage as early as possible so as to land a bomb with "shock and awe", psychologically jolting him out of whatever gameplan he had.
Your suggestions, gents??
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by Jaybee from UK
I think this one comes down to the basic difference between biggest guy, and big guy. Each must fight to his own strengths - I don't see any other way to ensure victory.
PBF - Use your lightning speed to dart in and out of range constantly for first quarter, deliberately sacrificing these three rounds, but throwing a token jab every few seconds to avoid DQ, and also to conserve bone strength. During this time, concentrate on making DLH MISS - not simply dodging his punches, but actually provoke him into increasing his workrate at the expense of accuracy, so as to slow him down later. Use any and all opportunities to counter, which should increase in frequency as the fight progresses and as he wears down. Jabslip at all times.
DLH - Walk him down, take his best shots and trade from the opening bell. Though he's fast, no human can walk backwards as fast as you can walk forwards. Impose your size/strength advantage as early as possible so as to land a bomb with "shock and awe", psychologically jolting him out of whatever gameplan he had.
Your suggestions, gents??
Lets go to war baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for both fighters.
I hope. ::**
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
Do a glen johnson on mayweather.
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ODH- Keep your guard high, cut off the ring, put him in the corner, when you punch to the head aim at his chest or shoulder, he will duck into one, and fire away at his body. Lean on him when you tie up, and if he tries that elbow or forearm crap, rough him up real good, get a warning from the ref. Shove him and let him know it's on baby........
PBF- Stick and move, don't trade punches, go to the body often, count on going 12, and try to wear him down to come on strong after 8.... And talk alot.... Get him mad and make him chase you....
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PBF - Right hand leads all night, baby. Everyone knows Oscar's money punch will be his left hook. make him hesitant to unload with that shot. Right hand leads all night will make him think twice about dropping that left hand guard. And it's Floyd's best shot. Make the fight look like my sig, Floyd!
ODLH - Keep your guard high. Floyd's gonna naturally attack to the body a lot. He won't be able to resist the large target Oscar's body is. Floyd drops his guard whenever he jabs to the body. Smack! Left hook counter time. Don't make the fight look like my sig.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
Floyd - quick pace, in and out, side to side, use your speed, and keep moving....keep punching too ( Floyd has a tendency to stop throwing combos) when you get on the inside do your work then tie up.
Oscar - muscle up on the inside, use your length when Floyd runs, stick the jab watch for the time to use the right lead, and against the ropes go George Foreman on his ass, rare back and let 'er rip! Use the left hook to counter the uppercut.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
PBF - Run around like you normally do.
ODLH - Knock 'em out like you normally do.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
PBF - Run around like you normally.
ODLH - Knock 'em out like you normally do.
lmao i wonder which would work best
i cant wait
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
PBF - Run around like you normally do.
ODLH - Knock 'em out like you normally do.
Your going to eat those words come tomorrow.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by fightme
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PBF - Run around like you normally.
ODLH - Knock 'em out like you normally do.
lmao i wonder which would work best
i cant wait
;D
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PBF - Run around like you normally do.
ODLH - Knock 'em out like you normally do.
Your going to eat those words come tomorrow.
Well we'll just have to wait and see.
IF I do, it wont be the 1st time. Uuuummm!! Tito, SSM 2 times & Hopkins.
Erik vs. Pac 2 times.
Erik vs. Zahir.
Shit! I better stop I'm getting depressed here. :(
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
Floyd: Counter, Move and don't get hit with that left hook. Jab, Jab, Jab, keep him away from you and make him fight your fight. Don't let him bully you and pressure you into doing what he wants you to do.
Frustrate and annoy :lickish:, get him into the later rounds and come home strong, he is not a good finisher.
Oscar: Be in his face all night, pressure, pressure, pressure. Push him around a little, be within range at all times and unload that left hook and see if he can take it. Don't waste your punches, he won't as he wants you in the later rounds, he can't hurt you but you can hurt him. Get in close and try some Body shots early.
Do not fall for any taunting and don't get angry with him, be focused and take him out with accurate hard punches.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
I'd tell Oscar to act weary from rounds 1-4........really confuse Floyd and act like you fear him.....then all of a sudden come round 4 explode.......if Oscar catches him flush he will get Floyd in trouble I'm sure of that. Once oscar has a guy wobbled he is sure to finish him.
Floyd:Use your speed, reflexes and your smartness, it's your best weapon. Use your brain, it controls the lot.
I would make a fucking crap trainer lol!
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by Jaybee from UK
I think this one comes down to the basic difference between biggest guy, and big guy. Each must fight to his own strengths - I don't see any other way to ensure victory.
PBF - Use your lightning speed to dart in and out of range constantly for first quarter, deliberately sacrificing these three rounds, but throwing a token jab every few seconds to avoid DQ, and also to conserve bone strength. During this time, concentrate on making DLH MISS - not simply dodging his punches, but actually provoke him into increasing his workrate at the expense of accuracy, so as to slow him down later. Use any and all opportunities to counter, which should increase in frequency as the fight progresses and as he wears down. Jabslip at all times.
DLH - Walk him down, take his best shots and trade from the opening bell. Though he's fast, no human can walk backwards as fast as you can walk forwards. Impose your size/strength advantage as early as possible so as to land a bomb with "shock and awe", psychologically jolting him out of whatever gameplan he had.
Your suggestions, gents??
CC because both of these are exellent mate
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
This is my type of topic 8) I'm just going to do Oscar right now because, well he is the more intriguing fighter in this one.
Oscar - I would work real hard with double and triple jab, it's something he's lacked in the recent and if he really wants to be the "pressure" fighter, we know he has a fast jab he needs to move forward with it and double and triple it up instead of throwing it flatfooted one at a time.
However, that's just if he presses the fight like he says he does. I am more of a fan of De La Hoya keeping distance with the jab, and laying traps to try to time Mayweather coming to the inside. And honestly, I think this is the route he takes. Mayweather is going to be in and out all night, and if De La Hoya can handle that speed (which is why he sparred Calderon) and time him and hit Floyd with a left hook moving in or out, that could really shift the fight.
Also, let his hands go in combinations when he has Floyd flatfooted. And Floyd does get flatfooted. Let the hands go, particulary the straight right hand after the left hook. Or vice versa. That is the hardest combination to slip. A long time ago the right hand was De La Hoya's best weapon, and the left hook was very wild and almost always led with jab. Now that's not the case but who knows, maybe Freddie Roach will bring that guy back.
Just a few things I think Oscar should do.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
Do a glen johnson on mayweather.
This is what I have been thinking all along. It would work also. I think maybe Oscar will do this, the problem is Floyd might counter and speed can destroy a guy. Look how Hearns knocked out Duran. Not that I think in any way Mayweather can demolish Oscar like Tommy did Roberto.
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you know what. Sometimes a guy who is good needs a fighter like Delahoya status to prove it. I still think there are tougher guys at 154 who could have taken on Floyd. Oscar has the name.. But his skills are questionable now.. If he beats Floyd I would have to say it was the size.. On paper Floyd is going to have a fun fight. Picking his shots by round 5 or 6 and stopping him in round 9 or so. But I will say UD Floyd just to be sure.
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Originally Posted by Jaybee from UK
I think this one comes down to the basic difference between biggest guy, and big guy. Each must fight to his own strengths - I don't see any other way to ensure victory.
PBF - Use your lightning speed to dart in and out of range constantly for first quarter, deliberately sacrificing these three rounds, but throwing a token jab every few seconds to avoid DQ, and also to conserve bone strength. During this time, concentrate on making DLH MISS - not simply dodging his punches, but actually provoke him into increasing his workrate at the expense of accuracy, so as to slow him down later. Use any and all opportunities to counter, which should increase in frequency as the fight progresses and as he wears down. Jabslip at all times.
DLH - Walk him down, take his best shots and trade from the opening bell. Though he's fast, no human can walk backwards as fast as you can walk forwards. Impose your size/strength advantage as early as possible so as to land a bomb with "shock and awe", psychologically jolting him out of whatever gameplan he had.
Your suggestions, gents??
Lets go to war baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for both fighters.
I hope. ::**
Like he said....Except for the hoping part
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
you know what. Sometimes a guy who is good needs a fighter like Delahoya status to prove it. I still think there are tougher guys at 154 who could have taken on Floyd. Oscar has the name.. But his skills are questionable now.. If he beats Floyd I would have to say it was the size.. On paper Floyd is going to have a fun fight. Picking his shots by round 5 or 6 and stopping him in round 9 or so. But I will say UD Floyd just to be sure.
Let's see...Floyd couldn't "stop" a slow stiff like Baldomir...but he is going to stop an iron chinned, highly skilled champion?! Sure thing. Not saying Floyd cannot win the fight...but for those of you who think a brittle handed fighter like Floyd, who is fighting at this weight for the first time, is going to stop or knockout Oscar...dream on. The man pot shotted and kept distance from Carlos...yet all of a sudden he is going to out power and hurt Oscar. Floyd can only win this fight on points...if he is smart. If he tries to get cute...he will get his a** handed to him. Hope it's an exciting fight.
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Let's see...Floyd couldn't "stop" a slow stiff like Baldomir...but he is going to stop an iron chinned, highly skilled champion?! Sure thing. Not saying Floyd cannot win the fight...but for those of you who think a brittle handed fighter like Floyd, who is fighting at this weight for the first time, is going to stop or knockout Oscar...dream on. The man pot shotted and kept distance from Carlos...yet all of a sudden he is going to out power and hurt Oscar. Floyd can only win this fight on points...if he is smart. If he tries to get cute...he will get his a** handed to him. Hope it's an exciting fight.
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Oscar is iron chinned? No way. Look just because a guy doesn't knock out one guy doesnt mean he cannot knock out Oscar. Different style of fighting. Baldomir is more of an aggresive fighter as it is. Oscar is a boxer sharp shooter counterpuncher . With a guy like that if Floyd is domination he will dominate big time and be hitting him from all different angles. I would not be surprised if he stops Oscar about rounds 9 or 10, I am saying UD because of Floyd's hands.
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
FUCK TO MAYWEATRGHER
but odh never eat someone good
onlty 147 years old chavez and vargez
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Fight to a draw so you can make another 25 mil and 6 mil, respectively in a rematch!
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All three Mayweathers (can't comment on Jeff) need a PR person to help them figure out that an ounce of humility is worth a pound of dignity. After a while, their inane chatter wears thin. Each of the 3 has been blessed with great opportunities in life. It's high time they stooped acting like they have been dealt a harsh card. Maybe they need to visit a cancer ward or a Veteran's hospital. But please, once and for all, STFU!
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
ODH should punch him in the balls as hard as he can right at the start, maybe it would slow him down, thats his one chance
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
ODH should punch him in the balls as hard as he can right at the start, maybe it would slow him down, thats his one chance
i LIKE IT!
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Re: How would you advise Mayweather and DLH??
well i would say....
PBF- just go out there do what you normally do your faster and more skilled than him defensively and offensively, lead with your right, don't get pulled in to going toe to toe that would not utilise your skills. when you have the chance on the counter hit him with 3 or 4 shots you've got enough speed to do that. don't ever think the fights won and keep up the intensity all the way through the fight.
ODLH- double up on your jabs try to intice him to come in close then hit as hard as you can particularly with your left hook. bully him and try to boss him around we know he's got good ring genralship tonight we want to put that to the test. he can't hurt you as much as you can hurt him remember that. try to keep up your workrate if the fight goes into later rounds we don't want the judge's to think your slacking.