Why is Margarito rated so highly?

I know I'm opening myself up to a world of painful insults that are sure to break me down into tears, but I honestly for the life of me cannot understand why everyone rates Margarito so highly?

People always say Hatton wouldn't stand a chance against Floyd, but believe that a Tony vs. Floyd fight has a debatable outcome.

Who has Margarito beaten to deserve such a superfight?

Seriously, I'm asking someone to explain why they think this guy is so good.

Nice basic ingredients and the thin base goes down well with a beverage or two ;D

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Nice basic ingredients and the thin base goes down well with a beverage or two ;D

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Seriously, in a number of posts about Hatton, I've noticed the Margarito bummer boys come out in their heards and say Tony should be fighting Floyd. Personally, I can't wait for him to get shown up. He's unbelievably overhyped.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

Seriously, in a number of posts about Hatton, I've noticed the Margarito bummer boys come out in their heards and say Tony should be fighting Floyd. Personally, I can't wait for him to get shown up. He's unbelievably overhyped.

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I agree with you. Floyd is so unbelievably overhyped. I can not wait for him to get shown up either. Why do his fan boys come out in heards? I don't know but he did put fear into Floyd's heart. When it comes to PBF and Tony...well let's just say that Floyd's heart stops pumping blood when ever Tony's name comes up. The blood is cut off and KoolAid takes the bloods place.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

Seriously, in a number of posts about Hatton, I've noticed the Margarito bummer boys come out in their heards and say Tony should be fighting Floyd. Personally, I can't wait for him to get shown up. He's unbelievably overhyped.

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I agree with you. Floyd is so unbelievably overhyped. I can not wait for him to get shown up either. Why do his fan boys come out in heards? I don't know but he did put fear into Floyd's heart. When it comes to PBF and Tony...well let's just say that Floyd's heart stops pumping blood when ever Tony's name comes up. The blood is cut off and KoolAid takes the bloods place.

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I wasn't saying Floyd was overhyped, I was talking about Tony. I bring this debate up alot about Tony whenever I see someone saying how great he is, but I seriously haven't seen anything that has impressed me. When I debate about it, nobody is willing to challenge my argument that Tony aint really that great.

for some people think because he beat cintron (who) that he is the best in the divivsion.

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for some people think because he beat cintron (who) that he is the best in the divivsion.

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Tis a joke. Cotto would ruin him.

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Seriously, in a number of posts about Hatton, I've noticed the Margarito bummer boys come out in their heards and say Tony should be fighting Floyd. Personally, I can't wait for him to get shown up. He's unbelievably overhyped.

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I agree with you. Floyd is so unbelievably overhyped. I can not wait for him to get shown up either. Why do his fan boys come out in heards? I don't know but he did put fear into Floyd's heart. When it comes to PBF and Tony...well let's just say that Floyd's heart stops pumping blood when ever Tony's name comes up. The blood is cut off and KoolAid takes the bloods place.

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I wasn't saying Floyd was overhyped, I was talking about Tony. I bring this debate up alot about Tony whenever I see someone saying how great he is, but I seriously haven't seen anything that has impressed me. When I debate about it, nobody is willing to challenge my argument that Tony aint really that great.

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I know you were talking about Tony. I just turned it around on you.

But yea, I agree. I have run into some pretty crazy Tony fans myself. They surfaced about 2 years ago and we have not stopped hearing from those loonies since then. People think I am a Tony fan when in fact I am a Floyd hatter, they confuse me for a Margarito fan but they are wrong. For me, It's all about your daddy Cotto and what.

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Seriously, in a number of posts about Hatton, I've noticed the Margarito bummer boys come out in their heards and say Tony should be fighting Floyd. Personally, I can't wait for him to get shown up. He's unbelievably overhyped.

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I agree with you. Floyd is so unbelievably overhyped. I can not wait for him to get shown up either. Why do his fan boys come out in heards? I don't know but he did put fear into Floyd's heart. When it comes to PBF and Tony...well let's just say that Floyd's heart stops pumping blood when ever Tony's name comes up. The blood is cut off and KoolAid takes the bloods place.

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I wasn't saying Floyd was overhyped, I was talking about Tony. I bring this debate up alot about Tony whenever I see someone saying how great he is, but I seriously haven't seen anything that has impressed me. When I debate about it, nobody is willing to challenge my argument that Tony aint really that great.

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I know you were talking about Tony. I just turned it around on you.

But yea, I agree. I have run into some pretty crazy Tony fans myself. They surfaced about 2 years ago and we have not stopped hearing from those loonies since then. People think I am a Tony fan when in fact I am a Floyd hatter, they confuse me for a Margarito fan but they are wrong. For me, It's all about your daddy Cotto and what.

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You turned it around on me?

Sneaky sneaky.

8) Maybe because he holds a belt. ;D

I don't know anyone who rates Margarito highly. In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge around the world of boxing that he's sh!t.

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Originally Posted by smashcrusher

I don't know anyone who rates Margarito highly. In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge around the world of boxing that he's sh!t.

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CC. That is very true, nobody hold's him in high regard except for Arum and that's because he want's to make some money. Tony is a good prospect but not an elite fighter.

i think cause hes a bootleg tommy hearns

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I don't know anyone who rates Margarito highly. In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge around the world of boxing that he's sh!t.
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uote] 8)You have no idea what your even talking about whats up with that he'll beat down anybody from where your at! 8)

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i think cause hes a bootleg tommy hearns

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Alot of people like to compare the big welterweights with Tommy Hearns. It has been happening for years, and then when they do not materialize as the next Tommy Hearns people think they were dissapointing. It is hard to be a guy like Tommy Hearns.. Or any great fighter.. Margarito reminds me more of Espana, the guy who beat Meldrick in 1992.

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I don't know anyone who rates Margarito highly. In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge around the world of boxing that he's sh!t.

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at one point everybody screaming about how he being ducked by the top guys.

Damn what does that say about Floyd that he's scared shitless of a bum? :cwm27:

nobody is scare of margarito i think fighters just don't care about margarito.

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

nobody is scare of margarito i think fighters just don't care about margarito.

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He was offered a nice chunk of bread to fight him.

i had heard that.

Ummm.....?

8) Margarito is a very good fighter I dont think some have or really even know just what he can do. Mayweather wouldnt fight him! Either would Oscar! That boy is a bad bad dude! Can make a fight at 147lbs against anybody and will fight anybody! 8)

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8) Margarito is a very good fighter I dont think some have or really even know just what he can do. Mayweather wouldnt fight him! Either would Oscar! That boy is a bad bad dude! Can make a fight at 147lbs against anybody and will fight anybody! 8)

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...and would more than likely get knocked out by any of those top guys he'd be willing to fight.

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8) Margarito is a very good fighter I dont think some have or really even know just what he can do. Mayweather wouldnt fight him! Either would Oscar! That boy is a bad bad dude! Can make a fight at 147lbs against anybody and will fight anybody! 8)

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...and would more than likely get knocked out by any of those top guys he'd be willing to fight.

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Tony wouldnt get knocked out by any of those guys..he's a stylistic nightmare for ANYONE at 147. He'S tall,strong,great chin,and has astounding stamina. He's a power punching machine. He just throws and throws.

And he's fought some tough fighters at ww,more top 10 RING ranked fighters than ANYONE else at the weight and has yet to be beaten. Williams will be a tough tough fight though but once again Tony shows his balls by fighting those no one else wants to fight. HE RUNS FROM NO-ONE and will fight ANYONE,he turned down Cotto to fight the mosre high risk low reward Williams.

And there have been many incidents of high profile fighters not wanting to fight him because they know they are in for a gruelling night:Judah,Mosley,PBF etc etc.

He's not brilliant in any area apart from stamina but he's good in all areas and with his size,that makes him dangerous for anyone at WW. The only guys I see beating him at 147 are Cotto(I'd favour Tony though) and maybe Williams. Mosley and the rest would get swamped and crushed.

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8) Margarito is a very good fighter I dont think some have or really even know just what he can do. Mayweather wouldnt fight him! Either would Oscar! That boy is a bad bad dude! Can make a fight at 147lbs against anybody and will fight anybody! 8)

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...and would more than likely get knocked out by any of those top guys he'd be willing to fight.

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Tony wouldnt get knocked out by any of those guys..he's a stylistic nightmare for ANYONE at 147. He'S tall,strong,great chin,and has astounding stamina. He's a power punching machine. He just throws and throws.

And he's fought some tough fighters at ww,more top 10 RING ranked fighters than ANYONE else at the weight and has yet to be beaten. Williams will be a tough tough fight though but once again Tony shows his balls by fighting those no one else wants to fight. HE RUNS FROM NO-ONE and will fight ANYONE,he turned down Cotto to fight the mosre high risk low reward Williams.

And there have been many incidents of high profile fighters not wanting to fight him because they know they are in for a gruelling night:Judah,Mosley,PBF etc etc.

He's not brilliant in any area apart from stamina but he's good in all areas and with his size,that makes him dangerous for anyone at WW. The only guys I see beating him at 147 are Cotto(I'd favour Tony though) and maybe Williams. Mosley and the rest would get swamped and crushed.

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I highly doubt he'd crush Mosley. Who are these amazing fighters he's beaten convincingly?

oh oscar ducked Margarito to fight a bum name PBF and set record breaking PPV numbers.

Someone was asking who rates Margarito highly other than Arum...that would be Dan Rafael who calls Margarito the most ducked fighter in the sport. Floyd and Oscar both did run from him. It's not Margaritos fault that he hasn't fought any of the big names, they all run when he becomes the next logical choice to fight. He's a guy that has a big wingspan that could give Floyd some trouble. He also packs a damn good punch. He's extremely unorthodox as well. But back to the issue about boxers ducking people. For all the hype about Margarito being ducked, he tried to duck someone himself...Paul Williams. After Williams put Sharmba Mitchell on the canvas in i believe 4 rounds (i'm not sure if floyd was able to knock him out or not, i can't remember) Paul Williams said to the cameras "I'll fight Margarito, all these other guys are running scared but I'll fight him." Then Margarito tried to dodge that fight as much as possible until he ran into a brick wall. I look for Paul Williams to beat Margarito and start asking Floyd to come out and play. Floyd will duck this match too.

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oh oscar ducked Margarito to fight a bum name PBF and set record breaking PPV numbers.

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cc for the burn

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Someone was asking who rates Margarito highly other than Arum...that would be Dan Rafael who calls Margarito the most ducked fighter in the sport. Floyd and Oscar both did run from him. It's not Margaritos fault that he hasn't fought any of the big names, they all run when he becomes the next logical choice to fight. He's a guy that has a big wingspan that could give Floyd some trouble. He also packs a damn good punch. He's extremely unorthodox as well. But back to the issue about boxers ducking people. For all the hype about Margarito being ducked, he tried to duck someone himself...Paul Williams. After Williams put Sharmba Mitchell on the canvas in i believe 4 rounds (i'm not sure if floyd was able to knock him out or not, i can't remember) Paul Williams said to the cameras "I'll fight Margarito, all these other guys are running scared but I'll fight him." Then Margarito tried to dodge that fight as much as possible until he ran into a brick wall. I look for Paul Williams to beat Margarito and start asking Floyd to come out and play. Floyd will duck this match too.

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Thats why Tony went to court to fight Arum so he could be allowed to fight Williams INSTEAD of Cotto...for less money and recognition....yeah he really ran into a brick wall there ::** ::** ::**

He didn't need to fight Williams at all but he chose to,to prove how tough he is. And Williams would KTFO ANY of Floyds opponents at 147.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

HE RUNS FROM NO-ONE and will fight ANYONE, he turned down Cotto to fight the mosre high risk low reward Williams.

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I agree Williams is lower reward, but do you really think he's higher risk than Cotto? Williams is too green and has terrible defense. I favor Margarito in that fight. But I think Cotto will crush Margarito in a fight that's not close.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Mosley and the rest would get swamped and crushed.

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You can't really mean that, can you? Margarito doesn't win a single round against Mosley.

Beats s--- out of me. ??? ??? O0 ??? ???

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HE RUNS FROM NO-ONE and will fight ANYONE, he turned down Cotto to fight the mosre high risk low reward Williams.

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I agree Williams is lower reward, but do you really think he's higher risk than Cotto? Williams is too green and has terrible defense. I favor Margarito in that fight. But I think Cotto will crush Margarito in a fight that's not close.

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Mosley and the rest would get swamped and crushed.

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You can't really mean that, can you? Margarito doesn't win a single round against Mosley.

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IF YOU REALLY believe Tony does not win a round against Mosley,you are dreaming. Mosley would get backed up and he can't fight going backwards,would get outworked and has trouble with taller and bigger fighters. He would have his moments but Margarito could take his punch.


Williams is higher risk as in there are fans who won't respect Tony if he wins. Even if he lost to Cotto,if he fought well,he would get more love.

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Williams is higher risk as in there are fans who won't respect Tony if he wins. Even if he lost to Cotto,if he fought well,he would get more love.

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I think that just means he's lower reward. Not higher risk.

If Mosley-Margarito ever gets made, let's have a friendly wager on who wins.

Tony is rated highly by alot of people, because he's been avoided, and because he can knock the ear off of a fighter.

On the other hand, he has a few losses, and others consider him not that good.

IMO, sure, he can bang, but will be exposed, and would never beat Mayweather. As for the rest, we'll see.

look untill margarito beat cintron(who) nobody was saying that he was being ducked. after he beat cintron (who) he somehow became the some great fighter. why i don't know.

you guys mean to tell me you'd rathere had saw PBF margarito than PBF DLH.

Because he has a Great promoter to create hype and a self ordained Boogie man.. ;)

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look untill margarito beat cintron(who) nobody was saying that he was being ducked. after he beat cintron (who) he somehow became the some great fighter. why i don't know.

you guys mean to tell me you'd rathere had saw PBF margarito than PBF DLH.

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Tony would be an easy fight for Floyd, IMO. I would have rather saw Floyd-Oscar, and Tony-Cotto.

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Tony is rated highly by alot of people, because he's been avoided, and because he can knock the ear off of a fighter.

On the other hand, he has a few losses, and others consider him not that good.

IMO, sure, he can bang, but will be exposed, and would never beat Mayweather. As for the rest, we'll see.

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look untill margarito beat cintron(who) nobody was saying that he was being ducked. after he beat cintron (who) he somehow became the some great fighter. why i don't know.

you guys mean to tell me you'd rathere had saw PBF margarito than PBF DLH.

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Those in the know have been touting him for ges.The guys at Maxboxing,James Toney,Ray Mancini,Gill Clancy all speak highly of him. And he has been looking for a big fight for longer than most know. He was calling out Mayora,Vargas and Oscar at 147/154. He couldnt find anyone to fight so he fought Antonio Diaz at the time,I remember Lampley mentioning it. He has beaten some hard nosed under rated fighters and now seeks the bigger names,thats all. No offence but just because you didn't hear of him does not make him any less potent or dangerous. NO ONE said he was a great fighter but he IS a stylistic nightmare for most if not all at 147. I'm not saying he would DEFINITELY win them all but he would be dam tough to beat.


Margarito would have given FLoyd a tough tough fight but of course Floyd would be hot favourite.

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Williams is higher risk as in there are fans who won't respect Tony if he wins. Even if he lost to Cotto,if he fought well,he would get more love.

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I think that just means he's lower reward. Not higher risk.

If Mosley-Margarito ever gets made, let's have a friendly wager on who wins.

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I love Cotto more than most at this forum except may be Danny G and even I admit that if Cotto's stamina is not SIGNIFICANTLY better than it was at 140,Tony would ravage him later in the fight or in the rounds he has off. And as for Mosley Margarito,there is a reason why Shane told Floyd to fight Tony and didn't take it himself. I'd bet you TOTALLY! O0 :laugh:

I love you guys here,all of you but just because you don't like a fighter or don't know much about him,does not mean he is a 1 hit wonder or anything. I'm not saying he's the best,far from it,technically he's awful but he's dangerous,that;s my point.

I have never heard of this Margarito Fella ;D