oscar only won two or three rounds and you have to search hard for that third one..at the very best he won four...117-111 for floyd
115-113 for floyd is bullshit
115-113 for oscar means someone was a paid oscar fan...
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oscar only won two or three rounds and you have to search hard for that third one..at the very best he won four...117-111 for floyd
115-113 for floyd is bullshit
115-113 for oscar means someone was a paid oscar fan...
It was you
I also had it 117-111 Floyd. Could have gone 118-110 or maybe 116-112.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Floyd won by 2 - 4 rounds, and 4 is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Floyd clearly won though.
YOu guys are freakin' NUTS! Floyd didn't land all his shots, remember he didn't fight Baldomir this time. This was a very close fight that could have gone to either one. DLH's reflexes surprised me at 34.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
What fight were you watching?Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
Can you please tell me what you look for when scoring a fight?
I had it 116-112..
The first thing would be actually landing punches (something Floyd did nearly TWICE as often and at more than DOUBLE the connect-rate of Oscar). Oscar may have been more aggressive, but it's effective aggressiveness that scores. Oscar was completely ineffective. It was embarrassing watching him throw those ridiculous flurries at the air. He looked like an old man in there and was totally outclassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
BTW, you might want to ditch your signature pic now--you're just making yourself look like even more of an ass.
Shiza has it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
You cannot win a fight just throwing punches. Floyd fought a great fight. It will be hard for him to fight someone who has a right hand and who is big. A fight which would have been good is Floyd Mayweather vs. Terry Norris of 1992. Since Terry's chin was his biggest weakness and Floyd cannot punch too hard, Terry might have done well in this matchup.
sorry buddy Floyd didn't back one third the shit he talked and IMO he barely won the fight he won 115-114 and i wouldn't have been blown away if the decision would have been 115-114 DLH , or even all three calls would have been fair to me, the fight was close, and there are enough grounds to present a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
he still won
117-111 is rediculous!!!!!!!! must of been a floyd fan score card ;D
Rubbish!Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
but his ass didn't dominate jack shitQuote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
for a so called p4p king he didn't look so dominant thats for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
exactly my point, there are enough factor for a rematch, especially the mere fact that whenever DLH let his jab go, we would only see chicken boy mayweather get into his shell and move back
Floyd Mayweather, Sr. had it right, but not entirely. It does depend on what quantifies 'winning' in this fight to determine the outcome. If you're basing the fight on workrate, then Oscar De La Hoya gets the win. However, we know that workrate is not enough or else Sam Soliman would have had the edge over Winky Wright and Kassim Ouma would be the current middleweight champion over Jermain Taylor. If you score the fight based on accuracy (something that Mayweather, Sr. didn't even bother to suggest), then Mayweather did enough to win. The whole 'did you see his eye' argument is trash since you can hit the same available spot over and over again until it swells or breaks, but it doesn't mean that the rest of the body is going to stop fighting and it doesn't mean that you're wearing the opponent down at all. Other than physical damage (that tells more of the victim's ability to avoid injury more than it tells of the damager's skill), the best way to quatify a match is by the workrate and once that has been assessed, it's time to ask, how effective was that workrate. The numbers tell the story in this fight and that is obviously what two out of the three judges were basing their scoring on. The third judge obviously saw it Mayweather, Sr.'s way.
It was a nailbiter, but the Mayweather, Jr. win was no surprise. Consider this - how was Mayweather, Jr. able to throw and land at such an accurate percentage if was fighting defensively for most of the fight. You can't produce that type of workrate by counterpunching.
I believe that some of you that are criticizing Mayweather, Jr.'s win are doing so on the basis of what he should have done as opposed to what he actually did to win. He won. You may not have liked it, but it's no reason to say he should not have won. There are an abundance of better reasons.
Just to note, the flurrying, especially in the last minute to 30 seconds of any round by De La Hoya are typical (a la Sugar Ray Leonard). It is the reason he almost lost to Felix Sturm because Sturm knew about the tactic already and kept De La Hoya from doing that all night.
my point exactly and that the fight was close enough to make a rematch, floyd won, but he didn't dominate
Good point ElTerribleMorales. I see this is a topic started by PBF fans again who are over exaggerating his win. No one here in the forums are saying PBF didn't win. Yes he did win but it wasn't a 117 - 111 win like the thread starter stated. PBF-ODLH was a close fight. If PBF really wants to have a decisive win, he should KO his opponents. Then there will be no question/arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
you can't be serious? oscar fans always want a rematch..they wanted a third fight with mosely even though shane beat him twice...
now they want a rematch because oscar got beat by the smaller man and want a another 12 rounds of hoping to land the big left hook...only an idiot would have expected floyd, pound for pound or not to dominate a world class boxer with just as much amateur and pro experience not to mention BIGGER than him....fact is oscar should have easily won the fight but he was out boxed...where as he should have trained to be a monster in the fight and overwhelm floyd...as max kellerman said "oscar has never beaten a prime A+ fighter" and he never will....