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Mayweather EASILY won.
I've seen the fight 3 times now and Mayweather easily won... People who had Dela Hoya ahead are full of shit. You have to be the worst judge ever. At the very least Mayweather won by 4-5 rounds... I had him ahead 8-3-1, and the conqubox would agree with me. He was so much more accurate and made Oscar miss 80% of his punches. He landed the cleaner punches, and he hurt Dela Hoya to the body near the end while Dela Hoya never even phased him. Oscar was a lot better than I expected him to be, but this is the most one sided fight I've seen against him. IMO this solidifies Mayweather as p4p top 3 ever.
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son that fight was not easy for maywether .... he did win but it was not easy he got hit harder than ever before
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I've seen the fight 3 times now and Mayweather easily won... People who had Dela Hoya ahead are full of S***. You have to be the worst judge ever. At the very least Mayweather won by 4-5 rounds... I had him ahead 8-3-1, and the conqubox would agree with me. He was so much more accurate and made Oscar miss 80% of his punches. He landed the cleaner punches, and he hurt Dela Hoya to the body near the end while Dela Hoya never even phased him. Oscar was a lot better than I expected him to be, but this is the most one sided fight I've seen against him. IMO this solidifies Mayweather as p4p top 3 ever.
cc. its good to see sane people on this board.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I've seen the fight 3 times now and Mayweather easily won... People who had Dela Hoya ahead are full of S***. You have to be the worst judge ever. At the very least Mayweather won by 4-5 rounds... I had him ahead 8-3-1, and the conqubox would agree with me. He was so much more accurate and made Oscar miss 80% of his punches. He landed the cleaner punches, and he hurt Dela Hoya to the body near the end while Dela Hoya never even phased him. Oscar was a lot better than I expected him to be, but this is the most one sided fight I've seen against him. IMO this solidifies Mayweather as p4p top 3 ever.
Top 3 ever!!!!.....Did you get hit in the head??
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I guess I am going to have to make a video and show you just how many times Floyd hit Oscar on the gloves and missed.
Did you see Oscar's face after the fight?
Not a mark.
You would have to think that all of those punches you claim you saw landing would leave a mark, right?
Who had the black eye at the end of the fight?
Well you can't see the black eye on Floyd because like duh, he is black but you seen the welt.
Stop nuthugging.
I swear nuthuggers don't know how to do nothing else but nuthug.
They never score a fight all they say is blah blah won.
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He would have won easily on the scorecards if he would have done more earlier in the fight but he was just letting Oscar get off his flurries to slow him down in the latter rounds. I think Floyd won by 2-4 rounds and the judge who had it 115-113 DLH is just crazy.
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Did you see him make Oscar look like a fool(at times)? Name one fighter who could have evaded that many fluries of the rope that many times... Mayweather was too bulked up to stay off the ropes all night, and he was dodging 6,7, and 8 punch combinations all night. Thats really hard. Oscar gets credit... Maybe its Roach being a better trainer than Mayweather Sr. or him training harder, but he was way sharper and way faster than he was against Mayorga. Now Mayweather has that "big name" on his record he should easily be top 3 IMO. He has it all, and at very least he is up there with Whitaker as the best defensive fighter ever.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I guess I am going to have to make a video and show you just how many times Floyd hit Oscar on the gloves and missed.
Did you see Oscar's face after the fight?
Not a mark.
You would have to think that all of those punches you claim you saw landing would leave a mark, right?
Who had the black eye at the end of the fight?
Well you can't see the black eye on Floyd because like duh, he is black but you seen the welt.
Stop nuthugging.
I swear fans don't know how to do nothing else but nuthug.
They never score a fight all they say is blah blah won.
Who landed 21%? Who landed 43%? Who landed more punches in almost every round, and though he did hit Oscar gloves quite a few times to Oscar credit, but that could easily be the other 57% of the punches he threw. Mayweather hit him with far cleaner shots, and he hits him with 85 MORE punches while throwing over a hundred less. 85 MORE punches thats almost 75% of the punches Oscar landed. So who's the fucking fan boy now?
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Originally Posted by Black Mamba
He would have won easily on the scorecards if he would have done more earlier in the fight but he was just letting Oscar get off his flurries to slow him down in the latter rounds. I think Floyd won by 2-4 rounds and the judge who had it 115-113 DLH is just crazy.
I think there were some close rounds that he won, but he just landed so many more punches that it over compensated the few clean shots Oscar actually tagged him with.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Did you see him make Oscar look like a fool(at times)? Name one fighter who could have evaded that many fluries of the rope that many times... Mayweather was too bulked up to stay off the ropes all night, and he was dodging 6,7, and 8 punch combinations all night. Thats really hard. Oscar gets credit... Maybe its Roach being a better trainer than Mayweather Sr. or him training harder, but he was way sharper and way faster than he was against Mayorga. Now Mayweather has that "big name" on his record he should easily be top 3 IMO. He has it all, and at very least he is up there with Whitaker as the best defensive fighter ever.
Ok now you are talking with a little more sense.
No one can deny that Floyd has a great radar.
No one can deny that he does things that are totally un-orthodoxed when he is on the ropes. He has been able to think outside of box when it comes to maneuvering and he puts his hands up and down in places that a normal fighters don't.
Freddy is a good trainer who can make a fighter a bit more aggresive. Freddy's mantality is border line dirty tactics, quick thinking and some trickery. If you don't understand this then you don't know squat about Freddy.
Floyd is a unique defendive fighter. I will give him that.
But against Oscar De La Hoya, he was unable to do a beat down.
Your earlier claims about Floyd landing all of those punches when in fact they were being blocked, is blind nut hugging or wishful thinking.
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He landed what they said he landed... more or less. Same with Oscar. But Oscar also landed a lot of punches that were from angles he couldn't get any leverage so they were meaningless punches. Regardless Mayweather had 85 more punches landed, and that is a very significant number.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I guess I am going to have to make a video and show you just how many times Floyd hit Oscar on the gloves and missed.
Did you see Oscar's face after the fight?
Not a mark.
You would have to think that all of those punches you claim you saw landing would leave a mark, right?
Who had the black eye at the end of the fight?
Well you can't see the black eye on Floyd because like duh, he is black but you seen the welt.
Stop nuthugging.
I swear fans don't know how to do nothing else but nuthug.
They never score a fight all they say is blah blah won.
Who landed 21%? Who landed 43%? Who landed more punches in almost every round, and though he did hit Oscar gloves quite a few times to Oscar credit, but that could easily be the other 57% of the punches he threw. Mayweather hit him with far cleaner shots, and he hits him with 85 MORE punches while throwing over a hundred less. 85 MORE punches thats almost 75% of the punches Oscar landed. So who's the fucking fan boy now?
Calm down fan boy. You see what you want to see. Again I am going to make a video so you can see the punches you fan boys claim you saw were not landing.
Again, I guess you missed this, did you see Oscar's face?
Had all those punches you fan boys claim you saw had actualy landed, there would be some serious damage to Oscars face.
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Floyd won that fight convincingly. He was facing his heaviest strongest opponent and was made to work, but work he did and finshed a close fight far the stronger down the stretch...
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anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
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I thought Mayweather won the fight 7 rounds to 5.
I do think that if DLH would have pressed the 10th or the 11th, he would have won the fight. he was not pressing the fight. However, props to Floyd though he did win the fight.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I guess I am going to have to make a video and show you just how many times Floyd hit Oscar on the gloves and missed.
Did you see Oscar's face after the fight?
Not a mark.
You would have to think that all of those punches you claim you saw landing would leave a mark, right?
Who had the black eye at the end of the fight?
Well you can't see the black eye on Floyd because like duh, he is black but you seen the welt.
Stop nuthugging.
I swear fans don't know how to do nothing else but nuthug.
They never score a fight all they say is blah blah won.
Who landed 21%? Who landed 43%? Who landed more punches in almost every round, and though he did hit Oscar gloves quite a few times to Oscar credit, but that could easily be the other 57% of the punches he threw. Mayweather hit him with far cleaner shots, and he hits him with 85 MORE punches while throwing over a hundred less. 85 MORE punches thats almost 75% of the punches Oscar landed. So who's the F****** fan boy now?
Calm down fan boy. You see what you want to see. Again I am going to make a video so you can see the punches you fan boys claim you saw were not landing.
Again, I guess you missed this, did you see Oscar's face?
Had all those punches you fan boys claim you saw had actualy landed, there would be some serious damage to Oscars face.
No necesarily... Mosley I, Hopkins, Mosley II... The point is harder punchers who have hit Oscar in the face haven't made him swell up which means a guy like Floyd who doesn't hit that hard likely couldn't do a lot of facial damage to Oscar who is easily to cut, but Floyd's punches connect to solidly they don't general make cuts. Anyways you get the conqu box stats that show exactly which punches Mayweahter landed on, and which he didn't because regardless you will have over 200 punches to choose from that have Mayweather missing a shot... and thats what the stats say.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
Watch it in slow motion then because I am going to likely... I am saying point wise Mayweather won this fight easily. I think he would have had to have had a hard time with Oscar or it would have looked like the rest of his fights, but the fac that he kept on dodging so many punches makes me think he could do it again, and again everytime they fought. This fight was definitely a lot harder for Mayweather than most fights, but he still won by a lot of rounds. You can't land 20 punches to 7 and have the round go to the other guy because they flurry wildly.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
Watch it in slow motion then because I am going to likely... I am saying point wise Mayweather won this fight easily. I think he would have had to have had a hard time with Oscar or it would have looked like the rest of his fights, but the fac that he kept on dodging so many punches makes me think he could do it again, and again everytime they fought. This fight was definitely a lot harder for Mayweather than most fights, but he still won by a lot of rounds. You can't land 20 punches to 7 and have the round go to the other guy because they flurry wildly.
yes floyd has amazing cat like reflexes and is awsome devensivly, but those black eyes must of come from somewere
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is it on utube yet ill have to watch it again.....sober this time ;D
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
Watch it in slow motion then because I am going to likely... I am saying point wise Mayweather won this fight easily. I think he would have had to have had a hard time with Oscar or it would have looked like the rest of his fights, but the fac that he kept on dodging so many punches makes me think he could do it again, and again everytime they fought. This fight was definitely a lot harder for Mayweather than most fights, but he still won by a lot of rounds. You can't land 20 punches to 7 and have the round go to the other guy because they flurry wildly.
yes floyd has amazing cat like reflexes and is awsome devensivly, but those black eyes must of come from somewere
First of all Mayweather gets cut, bruised easily like against Castillo, Corley, Augustus. I am not saying Oscar didn't catch him with any clean shots... just not that many. I think Mayweather had the much harder task last night... Its way easier to throw punches than to avoid them off the ropes.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Did you see him make Oscar look like a fool(at times)? Name one fighter who could have evaded that many fluries of the rope that many times... Mayweather was too bulked up to stay off the ropes all night, and he was dodging 6,7, and 8 punch combinations all night. Thats really hard. Oscar gets credit... Maybe its Roach being a better trainer than Mayweather Sr. or him training harder, but he was way sharper and way faster than he was against Mayorga. Now Mayweather has that "big name" on his record he should easily be top 3 IMO. He has it all, and at very least he is up there with Whitaker as the best defensive fighter ever.
did you see how Floyd would open his eyes so big that he looked like he came straight from an anime series and also how he'd damn well nearly shit himself everytime Oscar got him on the ropes, well yea i'm pretty sure you all didn't notice that, the fight was close, and was close enough for there to be a rematch, even more grounds then there was for a Toney/Peter rematch, i had Mayweather win the fight (and i was going for De La Hoya) but i only had him winning 115-114, so don't start with the hype that Mayweather won super easy and he dominated Oscar's ass, Mayweather didn't even back up 1/3 of the shit he talked
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I've seen the fight 3 times now and Mayweather easily won... People who had Dela Hoya ahead are full of S***.
and whoever said that mayweather won this easily has his mouth full of mayweathers c**k.. get real, fan boys need to watch and admit that dela hoya worked mayweather.. so i guess the lump under mayweathers right eye just came up on its own huh?
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Wow.. I don't mean he had an easy time... I mean he won easily in terms of who won more rounds. I already explained that Mayweather has bruised easier than ODLH, and ODLH was the harder puncher maybe if you weren't so illiterate you could have read past my first argument so I don't have to re-explain myself. Bruising the opponent doesn't win the fight... WOW Corley and Augustus bruised and bled MAyweather does that mean they won as well? GOOD CALL Josef.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
Watch it in slow motion then because I am going to likely... I am saying point wise Mayweather won this fight easily. I think he would have had to have had a hard time with Oscar or it would have looked like the rest of his fights, but the fac that he kept on dodging so many punches makes me think he could do it again, and again everytime they fought. This fight was definitely a lot harder for Mayweather than most fights, but he still won by a lot of rounds. You can't land 20 punches to 7 and have the round go to the other guy because they flurry wildly.
When ever I make a video, I have to watch it in slow motion. That is part of the editing process. It's a tedious job but I get a clear perspective while I am working.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Wow.. I don't mean he had an easy time... I mean he won easily in terms of who won more rounds. I already explained that Mayweather has bruised easier than ODLH, and ODLH was the harder puncher maybe if you weren't so illiterate you could have read past my first argument so I don't have to re-explain myself. Bruising the opponent doesn't win the fight... WOW Corley and Augustus bruised and bled MAyweather does that mean they won as well? GOOD CALL Josef.
wanna hear a good call? ill give u one after u wipe mayweathers jizz off ur face
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
anyone who thinks mayweather won this fight easy is deluded! Get real people it was a very close fight.
and taeth.......compubox counts punches that land on the gloves, compubox is operated by humans, compubox is flawed
Watch it in slow motion then because I am going to likely... I am saying point wise Mayweather won this fight easily. I think he would have had to have had a hard time with Oscar or it would have looked like the rest of his fights, but the fac that he kept on dodging so many punches makes me think he could do it again, and again everytime they fought. This fight was definitely a lot harder for Mayweather than most fights, but he still won by a lot of rounds. You can't land 20 punches to 7 and have the round go to the other guy because they flurry wildly.
When ever I make a video, I have to watch it in slow motion. That is part of the editing process. It's a tedious job but I get a clear perspective while I am working.
Regardless Mayweather still landed way more than Oscar.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Wow.. I don't mean he had an easy time... I mean he won easily in terms of who won more rounds. I already explained that Mayweather has bruised easier than ODLH, and ODLH was the harder puncher maybe if you weren't so illiterate you could have read past my first argument so I don't have to re-explain myself. Bruising the opponent doesn't win the fight... WOW Corley and Augustus bruised and bled MAyweather does that mean they won as well? GOOD CALL Josef.
wanna hear a good call? ill give u one after u wipe mayweathers jizz off ur face
OOO good one. I've never been within a thousand miles of Mayweather, but still nice try.
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Wow.. I don't mean he had an easy time... I mean he won easily in terms of who won more rounds. I already explained that Mayweather has bruised easier than ODLH, and ODLH was the harder puncher maybe if you weren't so illiterate you could have read past my first argument so I don't have to re-explain myself. Bruising the opponent doesn't win the fight... WOW Corley and Augustus bruised and bled MAyweather does that mean they won as well? GOOD CALL Josef.
wanna hear a good call? ill give u one after u wipe mayweathers jizz off ur face
OOO good one. I've never been within a thousand miles of Mayweather, but still nice try.
you could say what ever you want but you've convinced a lot of people here that ur a mayweather nuthugger
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OMG OMG OMG. Am I reading this right? Or did I just misinterpret the Subject? OK first off PBF CLEARLY won that fight. But in no way did he win it EASILY. Come on guys. Wake up and smell the roses. It was a very close fight that could have gone either way. If ODLH didnt run out of gas the last 4 rounds it could have been a draw or a ODLH split decision. Saying that PBF won EASILY is over exageration.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Wow.. I don't mean he had an easy time... I mean he won easily in terms of who won more rounds. I already explained that Mayweather has bruised easier than ODLH, and ODLH was the harder puncher maybe if you weren't so illiterate you could have read past my first argument so I don't have to re-explain myself. Bruising the opponent doesn't win the fight... WOW Corley and Augustus bruised and bled MAyweather does that mean they won as well? GOOD CALL Josef.
I'm glad that you clarified that. I think that Floyd worked very hard for this victory, but I agree, he CLEARLY won. I worked all day and I this is the first thread I've read today, so I don't know how many people are saying it was close. It wasn't. 8-3-1 sounds about right. I could go with 8-4. It would be a huge stretch to say 7-5.
That being said, he ain't top 3 P4P all-time if he retires now. Top 5 P4P guys fight and beat EVERYONE or all most everyone near there weight who matters. ODLH is a big NAME, but let's face it, he is more popular than great. There are better fighters and tougher fights for Floyd right now - Cotto and Mosley. Oscar was and is still a very good fighter, but this is his 5th loss and he's 34. I don't want to take anything away from Floyd, because this win, and the way he won, means a lot to his legacy and it means a lot in terms of making the general public aware of his greatness. It was a masterpiece performance on the biggest stage of his career.
I guess I would like see Floyd KO a top shelf opponent. I would like to see him finish the job against guys I grade above a B-. He hasn't done that since Chico. He clearly beat Judah, Baldy and Oscar, but he couldn't really hurt any of them, other than Judah. His punches, as clear, crisp and quick as they were, rarely bothered Oscar. He couldn't stop Castillo, Chop Chop, or Hernandez.
But that's really nitpicking, I guess. He is clearly the best of this era, unless Shane Mosely can prove me wrong. I will pay to watch him fight as long as he fights, because he just so good, the best I've seen in my adult life (other than espn classic). But no matter how great PBF is, nothing will change the fact that his is one of biggest assholes on the planet and I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire :)
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well at least we know that if Floyd decides to go on with the retirement plan that he could go into the porn industry and make a fortune on the gay porn circuit with all the Mayweather nut huggers that are in here
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Mayweather didn't win easily...... But he easily won. There's a difference that some people aren't seeming to grasp. It was a tough fight for him, he took some good shots and had to work very hard... But it wasn't difficult to determine that he was the winner..
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Mayweather won effectively. Oscar does alot of the same things Sugar Ray Leonard did years ago by trying to win the round with one or two punches at the end of the round. But Ray knew how to do it for the whole fight, every round, and keep the rounds more even- so when he would try to win the round that one punch made a difference in the scoring.
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well at least we know that if Floyd decides to go on with the retirement plan that he could go into the porn industry and make a fortune on the gay porn circuit with all the Mayweather nut huggers that are in here
Just like Dela Hoya will do with fans like you.
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wow i can't believe floyd fans aren't already satisfied with the win floyd got yesterday, why you guys got talk about how it shouldn't have been close ??? it was close only you guys are forcing the thought that it wasn't i guess it is embarrassing for the p4p so called king have such a close fight with an oscar whos not top 20 p4p anymore huh. and all the talk floyd did didn't show at all at fight night.
he was the most defensive challenger I've ever seen, for a suppose p4p king he didn't show shyt but how one hit and out he is and that was pretty much his whole offense at the fight.
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well at least we know that if Floyd decides to go on with the retirement plan that he could go into the porn industry and make a fortune on the gay porn circuit with all the Mayweather nut huggers that are in here
Just like Dela Hoya will do with fans like you.
no cause i'm not nut hugging anyone here, i had the fight scored as it should have, and nearly the same as the judges did, i still had Mayweather win, just there is no way in gods green earth that he won by 8 or 9 rounds, sorry PBF didn't do that shit, and well i think you got some of Mayweathers milk still on your lip, you might wanna wipe that off ;D
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Um so outpunching Oscar almost every round doesn't warant him winning the round because Oscar throws a few flashy, but ultimately meaningless flurries every round. It looks good, but it isn't effective. I agree Oscar caught Mayweather with some nice punches from time to time, but not at the same rate Mayweather was catching him with good clean punches.
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same thing goes for Mayweather, a lot of his punches were being blocked by DLH, they were either on the gloves or arms, not many landed clean
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I had him winning 8-4. But thats too damn close if your supposed to be the p4p king.
And I dont ever want to hear Mayweather uttered in the same breath as Pernell. IMO Pernell did a better job on a prime Oscar while Pernell was past it. From now on whoever thinks Floyd belongs in the same category as sweet pea, SRR, SRL etc. dont know anything, or is just the biggest PBF d-rider.
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I guess I am going to have to make a video and show you just how many times Floyd hit Oscar on the gloves and missed.
Did you see Oscar's face after the fight?
Not a mark.
You would have to think that all of those punches you claim you saw landing would leave a mark, right?
Who had the black eye at the end of the fight?
Well you can't see the black eye on Floyd because like duh, he is black but you seen the welt.
Stop nuthugging.
I swear nuthuggers don't know how to do nothing else but nuthug.
They never score a fight all they say is blah blah won.
then make a vid on how many times Oscar swung for Floyd and flurried across the fightand landed maybe one ;) And show how Floyd while evading Oscar's flurries would bust him with a right counter :)