Final thoughts on Floyd the Fraud

In the year 2000 a prime motivated Oscar De la Hoya took on and lost too ShaneMosely in what at the time was regarded as fight of the year !!

It was a Classic Oscar took early charge before Sugar Shane changed tactics ,rallied and put in a massive 4 last rounds to get a very much deserved decision !

It was a great performance by both men in their prime !!! Sugar Shane showed Guts ,power ,variety and ability to adapt when faced with his greatest foe to date !

This was only his 3rd fight at Welter after Dominating the Lightweight scene for many years !!!

At the time SSM was vaunted as the world most exciting Pound for pound fighter a fighter of substance and gravitas!!!

7 Years later Floyd The Fraud Mayweather took on a well past it Golden Boy and was on the rack early but unlike SSM didn't try to initiate any attacks or use his supposedly greater skills and hand and foot speed ........no he waited for Oscar to tire which he did in round 5 and 6 after chasing Mayweather , the same Mayweather whose degenerate behaviour has sullied boxing ,whose trash talk and crassness repelled many a hardcore and Casual fan !

This Mayweather promised '' confrontation '' and a 'massacre' had on numerous occasions called Oscar a 'bitch'. Instead he employed his usual Shoot and Scoot tactics . All this from a man who has compared himself with Sugar Ray Lenard .

Was his performance reminiscent of Sugar Ray chasing down Benitez and or coming from behind to stop a prime Thomas Hearns .....?


WAS IT BOLLOCKS

He also announced his retirement and proclaimed he had nothing left too prove .

BOLLOCKS

Nothing left to prove ? Nothing left to prove against somebody not in their prime unbeaten who can fight for 12 rounds consistently put you under pressure, who can cut of the ring more successfully than Oscar who was doing just that before his old legs caught up with him .


Mayweather has made a career out of defining himself in bullshit non events against Oscar he did nothing new except get a decision against a well past it hall of famer .



What if SSM had called it a day after his Oscar win ?

The Welters have the strongest division in Boxing, nothing left too prove ?

BOLLOCKS

I bet the folks at MMA are laughing their azzes off at Floyd. All that stuff he said about Chuck. But Chuck brings it, and he kills you or he get's killed there is no in between. Floyd is a punk.

LMAO at the so called masacre. It was more like a drive by with a BB-Gun.

What a joke.

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

You guys are pathetic. Floyd blew Oscar out in a pretty easy fight. Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

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LMAO! I could not put my finger on that stupid face he makes in ring. MiniMe face is a perfect description of that stupid pathetic look on his face.

And to shza, you need to get off the pipe. I don't know if you are smoking the glass pipe or the one made of meat but you are smoking somebodies pipe.

Don't be hitting the pipe bro. It ain't good for ya'.

Deal with what ? Read the post and answer the question !

Don't post on my Topic unless you are willing to go beyond and above the call of duty and respond to my heroic Rant!!

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

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LMAO! I could not put my finger on that stupid face he makes in ring. MiniMe face is a perfect description of that stupid pathetic look on his face.

And to shza, you need to get off the pipe. I don't know if you are smoking the glass pipe or the one made of meat but you are smoking somebodies pipe.

Don't be hitting the pipe bro. It ain't good for ya'.

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post your card, seriously. i'm dying to see how anyone could possibly score more than 4 rounds for de la hoya. shit, i'm curious to see how people can score more than 3 for him. i saw your post about how it was "a draw at best." so who's on the pipe, homes?

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Originally Posted by shza

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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Realist baby ! Try taking yr blinkers off and getting real baby !
Floyd won the fight or got the decision try taking a little fact with your early morning newspaper and stop deluding yourself with bonafide bullplop .

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Originally Posted by shza

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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Realist baby ! Try taking yr blinkers off and getting real baby !
Floyd won the fight or got the decision try taking a little fact with your early morning newspaper and stop deluding yourself with bonafide bullplop .

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this from the guy who got made that i didn't respond to every bullshit point in his post. thanks. that was informative. i'm glad that you admit floyd won the fight. it shouldn't have been a matter of pulling teeth to extract that. it was an easy fight to score. look at every boxing website with writers who follow the sport for a living. they ALL have it 116-112 mayweather. again: deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

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LMAO! I could not put my finger on that stupid face he makes in ring. MiniMe face is a perfect description of that stupid pathetic look on his face.

And to shza, you need to get off the pipe. I don't know if you are smoking the glass pipe or the one made of meat but you are smoking somebodies pipe.

Don't be hitting the pipe bro. It ain't good for ya'.

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post your card, seriously. i'm dying to see how anyone could possibly score more than 4 rounds for de la hoya. shit, i'm curious to see how people can score more than 3 for him. i saw your post about how it was "a draw at best." so who's on the pipe, homes?

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You ain't my homeboy.
Don't try to bity on our lingo.
You perp.
I will post my score card.

Post yours.

I am busy working on a video so I shall return when I am done editing.

I will post all these so call punches to the face that were actually landing on Oscar's gloves. I am sure you were counting those punches blocked as punches landed. I bet you were sitting there in awe. I bet you think the punches in the karate movies are also landing. Guess what? They are not. Get off the pipe and stop watching fiction and Jackie Chan flicks.

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

In the year 2000 a prime motivated Oscar De la Hoya took on and lost too ShaneMosely in what at the time was regarded as fight of the year !!

It was a Classic Oscar took early charge before Sugar Shane changed tactics ,rallied and put in a massive 4 last rounds to get a very much deserved decision !

It was a great performance by both men in their prime !!! Sugar Shane showed Guts ,power ,variety and ability to adapt when faced with his greatest foe to date !

This was only his 3rd fight at Welter after Dominating the Lightweight scene for many years !!!

At the time SSM was vaunted as the world most exciting Pound for pound fighter a fighter of substance and gravitas!!!

7 Years later Floyd The Fraud Mayweather took on a well past it Golden Boy and was on the rack early but unlike SSM didn't try to initiate any attacks or use his supposedly greater skills and hand and foot speed ........no he waited for Oscar to tire which he did in round 5 and 6 after chasing Mayweather , the same Mayweather whose degenerate behaviour has sullied boxing ,whose trash talk and crassness repelled many a hardcore and Casual fan !

This Mayweather promised '' confrontation '' and a 'massacre' had on numerous occasions called Oscar a 'bitch'. Instead he employed his usual Shoot and Scoot tactics . All this from a man who has compared himself with Sugar Ray Lenard .

Was his performance reminiscent of Sugar Ray chasing down Benitez and or coming from behind to stop a prime Thomas Hearns .....?


WAS IT BOLLOCKS

He also announced his retirement and proclaimed he had nothing left too prove .

BOLLOCKS

Nothing left to prove ? Nothing left to prove against somebody not in their prime unbeaten who can fight for 12 rounds consistently put you under pressure, who can cut of the ring more successfully than Oscar who was doing just that before his old legs caught up with him .


Mayweather has made a career out of defining himself in bullshit non events against Oscar he did nothing new except get a decision against a well past it hall of famer .



What if SSM had called it a day after his Oscar win ?

The Welters have the strongest division in Boxing, nothing left too prove ?

BOLLOCKS

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I agree the first SSM-ODLH fight was awesome but was not as close as the judgest made it out to be. I had Mosley pullin out a unanimous decision as I did Mayweather on Saturday.

You are right that it is kind of gay for Floyd to be retiring at such a young age but who knows what the state of his hands are? They may be really busted up a la Calzaghe and at that point, I mean both guys have made a lot of money and maybe should walk away from the game...unless they can deal with something that it seems only a certain breed can do and that is deal with the pain and put their pride first and fight on.

But just because he may retire, dont take away his win on Saturday night. i thought it was an exciting fight and that Mayweather outboxed him to a clear decision. A lot of people say he wasnt hitting Oscar that hard. Well Delahoya barely hit him at all. A lot of people are saying he should have went for the KO. Why? Oscar was much bigger, we all agreed that going toe to toe with him would be a Billy Conn=esque mistake. Mayweather should have got a UD. Give credit where credit is due. He beat probably the greatest fighter of our time albeit when that man was a year or two past HIS prime.

Now as far as legacy is concerned...Floyd aint touchin Oscar. His Hall of Fame status is safe and when u look at it, Oscar's resume will always be better than Mayweather's, unless Floyd decides to do something about this and stay in the game longer to carve a few more quality boxer (Mosley, Margarito, Hatton...we all know the names) notches on his belt. At the time it seems unlikely as he feels he has no more to prove (depends on what he wants to prove) and that he has been having severe hand problems. But remember...unretirement is always a possibility...how long have we seen most superstar boxers retire for?

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

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LMAO! I could not put my finger on that stupid face he makes in ring. MiniMe face is a perfect description of that stupid pathetic look on his face.

And to shza, you need to get off the pipe. I don't know if you are smoking the glass pipe or the one made of meat but you are smoking somebodies pipe.

Don't be hitting the pipe bro. It ain't good for ya'.

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post your card, seriously. i'm dying to see how anyone could possibly score more than 4 rounds for de la hoya. S***, i'm curious to see how people can score more than 3 for him. i saw your post about how it was "a draw at best." so who's on the pipe, homes?

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You ain't my homeboy.
Don't try to bity on our lingo.
You perp.
I will post my score card.

Post yours.

I am busy working on a video so I shall return when I am done editing.

I will post all these so call punches to the face that were actually landing on Oscar's gloves. I am sure you were counting those punches blocked as punches landed. I bet you were sitting there in awe. I bet you think the punches in the karate movies are also landing. Guess what? They are not. Get off the pipe and stop watching fiction and Jackie Chan flicks.

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Hey I like Jackie Chan. His stunts are way more realistic than say Jet Lee. But seriously here are my thoughts.

1)PBF beat Oscar = True
2)PBF is an all time great like SRL, Ali = False
3)PBF has nothing else left to prove = False

He hasn't done anything yet that can make him legendary. His win over ODLH, though he won that fight, wasn't very convincing. That's my main gripe with PBF. If he wants to be called an all time great like he says he is, he has to step it up. Use his superior skill and speed to get a CONVINCING win against top caliber opponents. If he retires right now then I'm sorry to say, the only thing going for him is his 0 loss record.

am i in the twilight zone?

floyd is a punk because he didn't stand toe to toe with naturally bigger technical boxer puncher who has as much ring experience pro and amateur combined as he does?

Floyd is fraud because he didn't allow the bigger man that many opportunities to land his best shot?

This is fucking ridiculous...yeah he talked shit always does, its all to promote himself but let's not lose sight of what really happened...it was floyd's first fight at 154...oscar had been as high as 160 and 154 since 2001...floyd's a punk? a fraud?

this is like pacquiao talking shit to sugar shane then moving up to 147 and getting beat except in this case floyd beat the bigger man. i know damn well know really thought that floyd was going do to oscar what he did to gatti and baldoblaster..and to expect that was stupid and to criticized floyd because he didn't do that is even dumber...floyd won easily at that...accept it...

but i still say the only person who can beat floyd is shane mosley at 147 or below....right now...

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

am i in the twilight zone?

floyd is a punk because he didn't stand toe to toe with naturally bigger technical boxer puncher who has as much ring experience pro and amateur combined as he does?

Floyd is fraud because he didn't allow the bigger man that many opportunities to land his best shot?

This is F****** ridiculous...yeah he talked S*** always does, its all to promote himself but let's not lose sight of what really happened...it was floyd's first fight at 154...oscar had been as high as 160 and 154 since 2001...floyd's a punk? a fraud?

this is like pacquiao talking S*** to sugar shane then moving up to 147 and getting beat except in this case floyd beat the bigger man. i know damn well know really thought that floyd was going do to oscar what he did to gatti and baldoblaster..and to expect that was stupid and to criticized floyd because he didn't do that is even dumber...floyd won easily at that...accept it...

but i still say the only person who can beat floyd is shane mosley at 147 or below....right now...

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O0Awesome post. Thank you...someone needed to make those points and i couldnt have said it better myself. Except for the SSM thing. If that fight happens I'm bettin on Floyd but man I think it would be entertaining! O0

8) Oscar straight up got robbed I wouldn't mind a rematch as Oscar mentioned because Id like to see if Floyd can step it up like he did against Castillo.

Floyd is retiring.....GOOD RIDDANCE!

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Complete with don't hit me punches and that sad Mini Me face he pulls when under pressure .

Look at that Poonim .... :-[

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LMAO! I could not put my finger on that stupid face he makes in ring. MiniMe face is a perfect description of that stupid pathetic look on his face.

And to shza, you need to get off the pipe. I don't know if you are smoking the glass pipe or the one made of meat but you are smoking somebodies pipe.

Don't be hitting the pipe bro. It ain't good for ya'.

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post your card, seriously. i'm dying to see how anyone could possibly score more than 4 rounds for de la hoya. S***, i'm curious to see how people can score more than 3 for him. i saw your post about how it was "a draw at best." so who's on the pipe, homes?

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You ain't my homeboy.
Don't try to bity on our lingo.
You perp.
I will post my score card.

Post yours.

I am busy working on a video so I shall return when I am done editing.

I will post all these so call punches to the face that were actually landing on Oscar's gloves. I am sure you were counting those punches blocked as punches landed. I bet you were sitting there in awe. I bet you think the punches in the karate movies are also landing. Guess what? They are not. Get off the pipe and stop watching fiction and Jackie Chan flicks.

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Hey Danny, since your already making a video and you thought the fight was a draw.... Maybe you could include the 6 unedited rounds that De La Hoya deserved to have won in the fight?? Oh and could you also make a HL reel of the best power shots Oscar landed?? Thanks man I'd really like to see you work your magic with those.

8) Floyd will return and fight again wait and see thats just his talk he spends too much money he will have to fight again just to pay the bills hes use to that high life style!

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Originally Posted by shza

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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None of my points are Valid ? Nothing about him comparing himself to Sugar Ray and talking all the shit he does riles you ?

then you are a certified Plumduff stumblebum . Please don't respond to my posts again unless you aggrreeeee with what i say or have the guts to seriously answer the questions i pose .

I hate these Floyd Nuthuggers ( love that word ()

To lighten the mood my word of the day is 'Gravitas ' , it sounds gritty

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

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Originally Posted by shza

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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None of my points are Valid ? Nothing about him comparing himself to Sugar Ray and talking all the shit he does riles you ?

then you are a certified Plumduff stumblebum . Please don't respond to my posts again unless you aggrreeeee with what i say or have the guts to seriously answer the questions i pose .

I hate these Floyd Nuthuggers ( love that word ()

To lighten the mood my word of the day is 'Gravitas ' , it sounds gritty

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I look at it like this. If you don't listen to anything PBF says, you won't have any problem with him.
I am NOT a PBF fan, however, I give him credit for being one of the most gifted defensive boxers ever
Right behind Sweet Pea. He definately is not a Sugar Ray Leonard, he is not an Ali, he is also
not in an era that has the level of competition that those guys faced though. I take anything any
pro boxer says with a grain of salt, after all, everything they say to the cameras is a sales pitch
for their fights. PBF will retire, just like ODLH and B-Hop retired. It's all in the name of ticket sales.

He ain't no fraud ;D

Blasphemy !!!!!!!

It's okay these days to talk shit drag the sport through the mud ''allfor sales''

He went way way way way way to far this time and he didnt back his words up !
De la hoya need's nobody to sell a fight ,Oscar could fight Yori Boy Campas and generate more Sales that Floyd the Fraud could in 5 fights .

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Blasphemy !!!!!!!

It's okay these days to talk shit drag the sport through the mud ''allfor sales''

He went way way way way way to far this time and he didnt back his words up !
De la hoya need's nobody to sell a fight ,Oscar could fight Yori Boy Campas and generate more Sales that Floyd the Fraud could in 5 fights .

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True.
But Floyd didn't want to be "a nobody".
He didn't want to be known as just another Oscar opponent to the average person out there.

Sorry if you feel cheated by him. Sorry if you feel he owes you something.
But if you went into Oscar vs. Floyd expecting something other than Oscar vs. Floyd, you only fooled yourself.

I just thought Mayweather was gonna put on a clinic but instead he did just enough .
All my initial beliefs and fears of how he'd fight were confirmed , if you saw my prediction it was Mayweather UD and i had even posted a topic called ' this is not a superfight ' so i wasn't expecting an all outbrawl .

It was a good fight but only because Oscar pressed the action and made it exciting his reflexes are not what they were his skill eroded and his feet and stamna are not what they were .

Mayweather didn't match up to SSM ,talked shit , Announced his retirement and talked even more shit after the fight .

Not arguing with the decision just arguing about how the Fraud went about it and how he has conducted himself .

Oscar fought his ass off at the Mosley fight & the Mayweather fight...I was there live for both & didn't hear any biased commentating & was there in hopes of just seeing a great fight both times.

The Mosley fight I wanted Oscar to win & the Mayweather fight I wanted Mayweather to win.

I got what I wanted the second time & both times I got a great fight.

It amazes me that bullshit like this is said...but that's boxing.

8) Your right Wacko thats just boxing!

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Originally Posted by shza

you're a hater. there's no reason to respond to your "points." the fight was a blowout.

i'll respond to this part though. stop pushing this dumb talking point about how Oscar lost because he was old. i mean, it was expected that Oscar's nut-huggers would do this when he got dominated, but it's still ridiculous. the man is only THIRTY-FOUR. he's only FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN FLOYD. this isn't a 40 year-old b-hop losing a bad decision to a 26 year-old taylor. this is two guys who are basically the same age, who have both been in boxing their whole lives (actually, floyd's probably been boxing longer) having a fight.

it's telling instead of even trying to seriously contend this was anything but a blowout for Mayweather, you respond by hating on him for not being Sugar Ray Robinson. Whatever. He's the best fighter out there right now. That's the point. Oscar de la Hoya is not even top 10. And I don't see you arguing otherwise.

This is just another example of Oscar failing against an elite fighter in his prime. (for the record, Oscar has lost every single one of his fights against elite fighters in their prime)

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None of my points are Valid ? Nothing about him comparing himself to Sugar Ray and talking all the shit he does riles you ?

then you are a certified Plumduff stumblebum . Please don't respond to my posts again unless you aggrreeeee with what i say or have the guts to seriously answer the questions i pose .

I hate these Floyd Nuthuggers ( love that word ()

To lighten the mood my word of the day is 'Gravitas ' , it sounds gritty

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I just don't understand why his talking makes you so personally angry. he's a boxer. he won his fight clearly. you don't dispute that. if he annoys you, don't listen to him.

8) A split decission isnt clearly.

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8) A split decission isnt clearly.

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A bogus split decision that every single boxing writer in america agrees should have been a UD is.