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Boxing Is About Hitting And Not Getting Hit
Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
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totally agree 100% with ice cold on this one.
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Floyd won't get respect until he starts getting hit more.
I just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by meowza
Floyd won't get respect until he starts getting hit more.
I just don't get it.
neither do i why do fighters have to take punishment to get respect i just don't get it.
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totally agree 100% with ice cold on this one.
Cheers bro :coolclick:
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I agree that Mayweather has not been getting the credit he deserves BUT I TOTALLY disagree that boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. That is certainly 1 interpretation of what this sports is about,but it's not the only one nor necessarily the most valid. Boxing can be about heart,blood and guts,testicular fortitude,the will to win etc etc. Everyone has different interpretations on what boxing should be about,it means something different to all of us.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree that Mayweather has not been getting the credit he deserves BUT I TOTALLY disagree that boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. That is certainly 1 interpretation of what this sports is about,but it's not the only one nor necessarily the most valid. Boxing can be about heart,blood and guts,testicular fortitude,the will to win etc etc. Everyone has different interpretations on what boxing should be about,it means something different to all of us.
Yes sorry El Gamo i didn't mean to say that boxing is only about that but what im trying to say its not always about toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science can be pleasure to watch like Leonard vs Hearns 1 and if you have got skill to hit and not get hit would anybody on this forum take punishment if they had that skill ??
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree that Mayweather has not been getting the credit he deserves BUT I TOTALLY disagree that boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. That is certainly 1 interpretation of what this sports is about,but it's not the only one nor necessarily the most valid. Boxing can be about heart,blood and guts,testicular fortitude,the will to win etc etc. Everyone has different interpretations on what boxing should be about,it means something different to all of us.
Yea but all of those aspects you bring up are part of hitting, and not being hit.. It's simply the basis of which fights are scored and won. Heart, fortitude, will, don't mean a damn thing as to who wins if you can't use those attributes to land signifigant punches, and more of them than the guy your fighting.. At the end of the day you can't outland/outbox a guy who is there to fight as much as you are without matching his heart/fortitude/etc unless your just that much better.. Cus Demato once said that in boxing, the man with the stronger will always wins, unless one man is so much more skilled than the other, that his will is never tested... Either way, it all comes down to landing the more meaningful punches more often than your opponent.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree that Mayweather has not been getting the credit he deserves BUT I TOTALLY disagree that boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. That is certainly 1 interpretation of what this sports is about,but it's not the only one nor necessarily the most valid. Boxing can be about heart,blood and guts,testicular fortitude,the will to win etc etc. Everyone has different interpretations on what boxing should be about,it means something different to all of us.
Yea but all of those aspects you bring up are part of hitting, and not being hit.. It's simply the basis of which fights are scored and won. Heart, fortitude, will, don't mean a damn thing as to who wins if you can't use those attributes to land signifigant punches, and more of them than the guy your fighting.. At the end of the day you can't outland/outbox a guy who is there to fight as much as you are without matching his heart/fortitude/etc unless your just that much better.. Cus Demato once said that in boxing, the man with the stronger will always wins, unless one man is so much more skilled than the other, that his will is never tested... Either way, it all comes down to landing the more meaningful punches more often than your opponent.
Well said :coolclick:
In my book until someone can force Mayweather to fight different Mayweather should continue his style it works best for him and if i was in his shoes i would do too its not Mayweathers fault he is much better than his opp that no one can make him fight differently.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by meowza
Floyd won't get respect until he starts getting hit more.
I just don't get it.
neither do i why do fighters have to take punishment to get respect i just don't get it.
i'll tell u why. its cuz of people like larry merchant and a lot of people on this board who think boxing IS about blood and guts and want to see these athletes risk their brains and their very lives taking physical damage so that the fans can "get their money's worth". to me this is bullshit. as a boxer your job is to win as many fights while taking as little permanent damage as possible. Ali (in his younger years), Whitaker, Leonard, many times Delahoya himself, have all built their styles on this "hit and not get hit"; "stick and move" strategy designed for just this purpose. But nowadays, (and i really started to notice it more after Stallones annoying mongoloid cries of "TOE ta TOE..TOE TA TOE!" on The Contender, it seems like your average boxing fan wants to see blood and two guys wade in going toe to toe seeing who drops first. If you want this, go watch the ToughMan Championship if it's still on...dont criticize one of the best boxers the sport has seen in recent years because his fighting style lends itself to longetivity...and at the same time making sure he doenst wind up with Parkinson's or worse. It works and has won world titles in five different weight classes. And if you dont consider that greatness, I dont care who you are, you know nothing about boxing.
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Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
First of all, I don't really like OLDH and PBF (no real reason, I just prefer other fighters). I watched the fight objectively, you may say. I agree with you in a way, but don't agree with your logic that since Floyd agreed to fight a bigger man (out of his natural weight class) he should not "brawl". I think it would have been better if Floyd stuck to his weight class and dominated everyone (the same way he dominated Gatti) than use the weight difference as an excuse to not make a fight out of it. Funny thing is PBF wanted to prove that he is the better boxer. Is he a better boxer? There will be always two schools of thought. One would say that he was a better boxer because of his defensive skills, others will say he is not because he did not make a fight of of it or dominate OLDH. I see people use the term "boxing" to defend PBF. However, lets review the actual meaning of the "box". It is defined as "to hit using the hands or fist". Defense is crucial but hitting and scoring points is what wins the fight. Maybe that is why PBF won the fight. He probably got hit less. But did he dominate OLDH? PBF dominated Gatti. Not OLDH.
It would have been better if they fought a 15 rounder and mayber we would have seen a good fight during the championship rounds (14 or 15). Both men did look like they could have gone 10 more rounds after the 12th. Moreso with PBF. It does not do the sport good to know that two men who earned approximately $100 million combined looked fresh as daisies during the 12th and final round. Did they really give us our monies worth? You be the guess. All I know is that OLDH and PBF are right now laughing all the way to the bank while we are here, earning our measly salaries, arguing in this forum on who was better that night. Hmmm :-[
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
damn right 100% agree with that ice. CC
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yes the science of boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and floyd made oscar miss quite a bit but if you look at the 2 of them post fight , whos face looked worse? ODH didnt have a mark , so where did floyds 2 shiners come from? all those airswings i guess?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
damn right 100% agree with that ice. CC
yeah i second that,when a fighter boxes like that it really is a joy to watch imo.
of course we all love a tear-up but Floyd fights to the best of his ability and the funny thing was it was he who hurt Oscar and buckled his legs with a right hand in the 5th.
I didn't see Floyd in trouble once.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
damn right 100% agree with that ice. CC
:coolclick: back bro.
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yes the science of boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and floyd made oscar miss quite a bit but if you look at the 2 of them post fight , whos face looked worse? ODH didnt have a mark , so where did floyds 2 shiners come from? all those airswings i guess?
Umm well could of been from a thumb that causes swelling it could of been from bit of foul play or it could be Oscar caught him in right place maybe Oscar's skin is tougher than Mayweather's skin all i know is Mayweather won the fight and landed better punches shiners or no shiners.
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Someone said Floyd has to get hit to be respected. He will never be a guy who will want to take punches. And that is fine. He wins anyway. His power is not much, so for him to stay there and get hit to hit would not be smart. His style will not change, and it is the worst style for getting older.
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yes the science of boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and floyd made oscar miss quite a bit but if you look at the 2 of them post fight , whos face looked worse? ODH didnt have a mark , so where did floyds 2 shiners come from? all those airswings i guess?
Umm well could of been from a thumb that causes swelling it could of been from bit of foul play or it could be Oscar caught him in right place maybe Oscar's skin is tougher than Mayweather's skin all i know is Mayweather won the fight and landed better punches shiners or no shiners.
ill have to watch fight again....did u watch it live? i did but its hard for me to score a fight live cause i get all excited like a puppy and pee all over the place ???
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not Floyd fan at all but there is more to boxing than toe to toe slugfest sometimes using sweet science is pleasure to watch and these people who are saying Floyd should of brawled more are talking out there a** its funny because if you was Mayweather you would box and hit and not get hit and you certainly wouldn't be brawling a bigger man unless you got screws loose somewhere Whitaker used same tactics as Floyd no one hates him same with Willie Pep i know Floyd can sometimes be jack a** but you can't deny his talent and as my title says thats what boxing is all about.
Absolutely spot on.
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8) Oscar did do everything he needed to and should have got his true win that was a straight robbery!
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8) Oscar did do everything he needed to and should have got his true win that was a straight robbery!
Oh come on Mate how was it robbery you must be big ODH fan to say just look at punchstats Mayweather won close decision and thats that no robbery at all.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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yes the science of boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and floyd made oscar miss quite a bit but if you look at the 2 of them post fight , whos face looked worse? ODH didnt have a mark , so where did floyds 2 shiners come from? all those airswings i guess?
Umm well could of been from a thumb that causes swelling it could of been from bit of foul play or it could be Oscar caught him in right place maybe Oscar's skin is tougher than Mayweather's skin all i know is Mayweather won the fight and landed better punches shiners or no shiners.
ill have to watch fight again....did u watch it live? i did but its hard for me to score a fight live cause i get all excited like a puppy and pee all over the place ???
Nah i didn't watch it live.
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ICE are you saying you did'nt watch Mayweather vs De La Hoya live
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ICE are you saying you did'nt watch Mayweather vs De La Hoya live
Yes whats point of wasting money when i can get it for free the next day.
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8) Oscar did do everything he needed to and should have got his true win that was a straight robbery!
Oh come on Mate how was it robbery you must be big ODH fan to say just look at punchstats Mayweather won close decision and thats that no robbery at all.
Those punchstat numbers were a farce. I guess a punch to the glove is counted as a clean blow nowadays.
Total crap.
But Mayweather did enough to win, just not by the landslide some of you seem to think. I saw a 115-113 Mayweather win.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
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yes the science of boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and floyd made oscar miss quite a bit but if you look at the 2 of them post fight , whos face looked worse? ODH didnt have a mark , so where did floyds 2 shiners come from? all those airswings i guess?
Umm well could of been from a thumb that causes swelling it could of been from bit of foul play or it could be Oscar caught him in right place maybe Oscar's skin is tougher than Mayweather's skin all i know is Mayweather won the fight and landed better punches shiners or no shiners.
ill have to watch fight again....did u watch it live? i did but its hard for me to score a fight live cause i get all excited like a puppy and pee all over the place ???
Nah i didn't watch it live.
black mumba streamed it for us, watched right here at beloved saddos ;)
the site was packed to the sh!thoust
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I'm the total opposite and it never feels the same watching it the next day for me.
I do agree that it needs to be watched again to score it properly,kinda hard with a room full of people hammered on whatever their poison is at 4am ;D
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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8) Oscar did do everything he needed to and should have got his true win that was a straight robbery!
Oh come on Mate how was it robbery you must be big ODH fan to say just look at punchstats Mayweather won close decision and thats that no robbery at all.
Those punchstat numbers were a farce. I guess a punch to the glove is counted as a clean blow nowadays.
Total crap.
But Mayweather did enough to win, just not by the landslide some of you seem to think. I saw a 115-113 Mayweather win.
Well whatever you think of punchstats there was no robbery thats for certain.
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ICE are you saying you did'nt watch Mayweather vs De La Hoya live
Yes whats point of wasting money when i can get it for free the next day.
Have you not got sky mate it was free on sky sports1
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I'm the total opposite and it never feels the same watching it the next day for me.
I do agree that it needs to be watched again to score it properly,kinda hard with a room full of people hammered on whatever their poison is at 4am ;D
Well theres two reason's i didn't one i didn't think it would be much of a fight and i was right and second i didn't want to waste money on fight i didn't think would be much of a fight but i will maybe reconsider with Hatton vs Castillo that has slugest written all over it ;)
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ICE are you saying you did'nt watch Mayweather vs De La Hoya live
Yes whats point of wasting money when i can get it for free the next day.
Have you not got sky mate it was free on sky sports1
No i haven't mate.
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I agree - no robbery. Just not a dominating performance. PBF won because Oscar gassed out after round 8...and because he's a helluva boxer. But that fight was Oscar's to lose after 8, and he did just that.
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I agree - no robbery. Just not a dominating performance. PBF won because Oscar gassed out after round 8...and because he's a helluva boxer. But that fight was Oscar's to lose after 8, and he did just that.
I agree i don't think it was shutout i had Mayweather winning by 2 rounds reminds me of Mosley vs Oscar 1 he was winning that fight after 8 but he lost last 3 rounds.
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I'm the total opposite and it never feels the same watching it the next day for me.
I do agree that it needs to be watched again to score it properly,kinda hard with a room full of people hammered on whatever their poison is at 4am ;D
Well theres two reason's i didn't one i didn't think it would be much of a fight and i was right and second i didn't want to waste money on fight i didn't think would be much of a fight but i will maybe reconsider with Hatton vs Castillo that has slugest written all over it ;)
ice its different when u watch it live....like when i watch a fight the next day its not as exciting but live man it was awsome the atmosphere and vibe gets the blood rushing
but hey thats just me matey
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I'm the total opposite and it never feels the same watching it the next day for me.
I do agree that it needs to be watched again to score it properly,kinda hard with a room full of people hammered on whatever their poison is at 4am ;D
Well theres two reason's i didn't one i didn't think it would be much of a fight and i was right and second i didn't want to waste money on fight i didn't think would be much of a fight but i will maybe reconsider with Hatton vs Castillo that has slugest written all over it ;)
ice its different when u watch it live....like when i watch a fight the next day its not as exciting but live man it was awsome the atmosphere and vibe gets the blood rushing
but hey thats just me matey
didn't wana waste money mate i know it was massive and ect but i knew it wouldn't live up to the hype and i was right i only pay for fights where i think there going be good toe to toe battle or atleast good action.
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I agree - no robbery. Just not a dominating performance. PBF won because Oscar gassed out after round 8...and because he's a helluva boxer. But that fight was Oscar's to lose after 8, and he did just that.
I agree i don't think it was shutout i had Mayweather winning by 2 rounds reminds me of Mosley vs Oscar 1 he was winning that fight after 8 but he lost last 3 rounds.
CC - sounds like we watched the same fight ;D
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You gotta watch it live,you don't get the buzz for it second hand.
I honestly can't believe some of the toilet that some people type out ???
NO WAY Oscar won that at all.
1 or 2 rounds for sure in Mayweathers favour.
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I agree - no robbery. Just not a dominating performance. PBF won because Oscar gassed out after round 8...and because he's a helluva boxer. But that fight was Oscar's to lose after 8, and he did just that.
I agree i don't think it was shutout i had Mayweather winning by 2 rounds reminds me of Mosley vs Oscar 1 he was winning that fight after 8 but he lost last 3 rounds.
CC - sounds like we watched the same fight ;D
:coolclick: back 8)
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I agree with Troy here live a fight is awesome because if anything goes wrong it happened then as you were watching i was as nervous as hell i knew Floyd was just ahead did'nt want him to get caught so CC for that Troy
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I agree with Troy here live a fight is awesome because if anything goes wrong it happened then as you were watching i was as nervous as hell i knew Floyd was just ahead did'nt want him to get caught so CC for that Troy
ill cc u back when u tell me how u did it!
and it was close fight that i scored for oscar but i believe theres an argument either way..it was nail biting close,
not this one sided blow out yall talking bout :-\
