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What if he starts "hyping" his fight with JT by saying he's gonna ko him? Gets in front of the cameras and starts telling everyone he's been waiting to get this fight so he could show his power and put the worst beating on JT that anyones ever seen?
Is he a marketing "genius"? Or is he just a liar?
Chrise all mighty!!!! Get over it already..... If you keep posting anti-Floyd spam does that make you a Phucking hater????????? YES!!!!!!!!!!! ::**
He is the best whether you piss and moan about it all day... Glad to see he is making you eat your heart out
He should get up and say that! Don't make him a genius, but noone in their right mind is giving him a chance. If he did some trash talking, and boasting about him working on his power, he might actually help himself a little. As of now, the undercard is more interesting. Hell, Cory shopuld even say,"After I beat Taylor, i want Floyd!"Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Couldn't hurt anything, only help.
He's still gonna lose though. ;D
You from the PBF defense team? I don't have a problem with PBF's boxing skills. I have a problem with false advertising. Don't worry about what I do, he's also still an immature punk no matter how much you post about his greatness.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Oscar said he would knock Mayweather out. Thats false advertising. He said he would hurt Mayweather so bad that he would never fight again. Even worse false advertising. He said black fighters have no heart when he fought Whitaker(then he gets outboxed) he said he would close the show if he had Trinidad hurt(he ran the last three rounds) he said he was in the best shape of his life(and mosley beat him in the last 6 rounds) he said he was going to knock out Sturm late and that he was coming in stronger and faster then ever(look how he showed up against Sturm)Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Yes all boxers are psychics who know the exact outcome of the fight and they make the choice as to the exact point and time it ends and if it doesnt, shame on them ... ::**
Come on now ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Only a fool would have been expecting Floyd to go in there and slug it out. Likewise, it doesnt matter what Spinks says in the build up, we all have a good idea of how he will fight! Seriously, a silly thread! :-\
Your an immature punk by still bitching about it. Regardless of whether he said he would outbox Oscar in an exciting fight or knock him out, you would have watched the fight so STFU up, but it made no difference to you watching the fight. Deep down you knew he probably wouldn't go for the knock out.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I am not an ODH fan either. I hated Oscar the same way till the Mosley fight. ODH showed some guts in that fight and I have respect for him now, but still not a fan. PBF hasn't done that yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Man, you must've been really pissed off when Ali didn't literally make medicine sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
B-b-b-but he said he did! :o
Where you even alive when that happened? Go play on the playground little girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
There you go. Now you're getting the concept of trash talk.
Floyd says he was gonna massacre Oscar. And you feel cheated that he didn't do that?
You're right. He should've came out and said, "Come May 5th, I'm gonna beat Oscar by a split decision! Y'all wait and see!"
How dare he not realize there are people who hang on his every last word to the most literal extent.
I'm sorry if you feel cheated. How dare he lie to you.
But don't you worry, I'm here for you in your time of need.
Let the healing begin.
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Originally Posted by meowza
Hilarious! ;D
How on earth can any real boxing feel cheated by pre fight hype? Its all par for the course!!! :-\
Lets face it. Either Winky or B Hop is now decieving us all! :o
I reserve the right to bitch all I want about anything I desire. I don't do it often, and I don't participate in all the threads about who's the best p4p crap anyway. I don't believe in the p4p crap for anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
See I look at this from a business standpoint. I am in business, I have to sell things to make a living, and if I lied intentionally to make more sales, I would not get praised for it and be called a "smart businessman"??? However many people here think Floyd lying about how he's gonna fight is "smart" and good business. He did it two fights in a row. I never expected him to allow the other guy to hit him, but he could have been alot more offensive in both fights. The deal is I half believed that Floyd had enough anger, and since this is his "last fight" he would come out and put on a career defining performance. One that there would be an HBO Legendary Nights episode about. There probably will be one, but not because Floyd left it all in the ring.
I just don't think he earned that big paycheck. I think he cheated to get it, and the thing is he probably could have earned it and made alot of fans if he showed something. He didn't, so he gets no respect from me, and I will bitch for a few days. If you don't like it then don't read my post and worry about defending the honor of poor little Floyd.... Unless your on his payroll, then by all means do what you get paid to do, and EARN YOUR PAYCHECK!!!
Nah, it's more fun reading posts from someone who disagrees with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I understand what you're saying.
I'm not sure what you actually sell so I can't comment on that exactly. But selling a product and selling a fight are COMPLETELY different.
I mean, if a computer salesman tried to sell a 1.2ghz 128mb RAM computer and told the seller it's a 3.0ghz 4gb ddr-ram, that's a little different than a fighter saying he'll knock out his opponent and ends up winning by decision. There are some things out of your control and some things within.
I respect the fact that your judgement of his boxing skills isn't clouded by your dislike of his personailty. As you stated earlier you have no problem with his boxing skills.
So your dislike of him is based 100% on his big mouth.
What I'm basically trying to get at is,
If you never saw an episode of 24/7, if you never watched or heard any of the pre-fight hype or press conference talk, what would your opinion of the fight on May 5th be? Still a disappointment?
All I'm getting at is that I think expectations we put on fights are our own faults.
I went in expecting Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather. That's what I got. So I wasn't disappointed.
You were expecting more. Floyd's fault? Or yours?
I don't see a difference in selling the fight or a product. Again I don't have a problem with a fighter talking more smack than they can back up. Mayorga always says he's ko'ing the guy he's fighting. He tries to do it, and last time out he got ko'd. But he went for it. To me it's a whole different story when you it SEEMS like you never intended to go for a ko. The thing about the expectation is this.... I am a boxing fan, and I follow the fighters, etc. so I know a hell of alot more than the average person watching. All the hype wasn't aimed at me, I watch FNF's and WNF's and pretty much any fight televised. That hype was aimed at all the normal guys that ordered the ppv. Were all the highlights showing PBF making his "ice" and "massacre" comments, and calling ODH a pussy? Or did the general public just glean that cause that's what was expected? Nope, PBF put on a show fit for pro wrestling. As far as the fight itself, it was ok, but the comment Bhop made about Winky putting on his seatbelt twice, is how I saw PBF's performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
Roger even said it in about the 9th round, "keep doing what your doing, but now whoop his ass". Why would Roger say that if Floyd was doing it? He was just trying to win on points.
And now my opinion on decisions... The only way you can say that you decisively beat someone is if you ko them or you flat out put a beating on them. PBF didn't win that kind of a decision. Decisions are beauty contests. This judge likes blondes, that judge likes brunettes, and the third judge likes redheads but he votes for the blonde. It's purely 100% opinion. So for a fighter to barely win a decision and then say it's easy work, further pisses me off. Especially after earning a huge paycheck based upon this being a fight, not a night of easy work. Go kick the guys ass. That's what you advertised, that's why there's a big paycheck, but instead you coast and say it was easy work! Floyd bets on games, he was cussing at the tv when he's waiting to see if he won his bet, imagine Floyd would be cussing if the team he bet on barely one, but didn't cover the spread, and then say in the interview it's easy work?
What if Spinks pulls it off and wins this where does that leave Calzaghe
There's a difference between a lie and a prediction!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Floyd may very well have had every intention of "massacre" ing Oscar.
But when he got in that ring he used the best gameplan to win that fight and win the fight he did.
Boxers say what they say it isnt like Floyd knew he wasn't going to.
HE said he would embarass Gatti and massacre him and guess what, he did.
Not the same level as oscar and rightfully so.
But Floyd may have meant every single word he said at the time he said it but when he got in the ring he decided to do exactly what would get him the victory.
Sure he could have went to the body more and dont this or that to really put it on Oscar but Oscar could have done a lot more too so don't blame Floyd.
He delivered, he won the fight and Oscar didnt.
I guess you want fighters to be 100 percent honest?
Lets see
The press conference for the Oscar Floyd fights
NEW ON 24/7
Floyd: I'm going to box safely and pick off his shots and roll with the punches but I'm really not going to be as active as I should but he's really not going to do that much about it.
Oscar: That's absolutely right, I'm going to stalk him and throw flurries in the last 30 seconds hoping I can get a decision. Did I mention there's a really crappy undercard that this whole series has been ignoring?
Floyd: Right you are Oscar.. right you are!!
How about the Spinks Taylor conference
Spinks: I'm a 154 pounder, I have no power, I just have speed, I'm a distance fighter, and with his jab he should pick me off all night, thank you..
Taylor: Yeah, I keep on finding a way to avoid my mandatories just to get fights like this because I keep wanting to get a knockout so I picked someone perfect. Did I mention that this script that Dibella wrote for me to say is really swell. I hope you enjoy the fight, it will be a waste of time, thank you.
Reporter: And now over to Joe Calzaghe.>
Calzaghe: I'M NOT FIGHTING KESSLER DAMNIT!!!!!
;D
Starr,Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
If you like a fighter, they can do no wrong. I remember your long defenses of Zab after his fight with PBF. That's all it is, you defend every fighter you like. I am talking about outright intentionally misleading people. That's what PBF did. He had no intention of fighting an offensive fight. None. He knows he doesn't have many fans, and that his fights get booed when he fights safe and throws a punch and moves over and over, and he knows that he could make it seem like he was gonna fight instead of just dodge punches. It's all about intention. PBF didn't intend to do what he said. It's fraud because he did it on purpose. He also knows that the checks are already made out before the fight, so a boring performance isn't going to change his paycheck.
Doesn't mean he's not a good fighter. It means he has no integrity and I don't respect him. Now you can list all the faults of all the other fighters, and name some patriotic and charitable things that PBF does, but it's not gonna change my opinion. I think Floyd is a scammer and should be chastised, not applauded. Maybe then he will finally step up and achieve his potential.