Marvin what a champ Hopkins boring Hagler is the MAN A GREAT FIGHTER JT boring do you think Behop or JT would give him a go I DONT THINK SO :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Marvin what a champ Hopkins boring Hagler is the MAN A GREAT FIGHTER JT boring do you think Behop or JT would give him a go I DONT THINK SO :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Neither Hopkins or Taylor would live with Hagler he was an animal all out pressure fighter
Roy Jones > Marvin Hagler
Hagler would have beat Jones
Your forgetting that before his recent incarnation as a finesse boxer,so was B-hopQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Your talking about a guy who could win a round and a half one handed in a title fight with a seperated shoulder
i can't disagree with you. hopkins would mega struggle with hagler
Hagler would give Hopkins nightmares and hagler could go all out for 15 rounds doubt Hopkins could match that and Taylor definately could'nt
I see a Jones/Hagler match being like Hagler/Leonard but with Jones punching being more precise and him not getting hit too often. Plus hes naturally bigger than SRL was.
As much as I admire B-Hop, I think a fight against Hagler would be the worst night of his life. He probably wouldn't knock out Bernard, but he'd put a beating on him IMO.
hagler was a fucking BEAST
Agreed. I would probably go with Jones by dec. Not saying that Jones should be looked at as a greater alltime Middleweight than Hagler, but I think his foot and hand speed would give Hagler a lot of troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by dayo
No Hagler would have to much for Jones
haha isnt it hillarious wot ppl put on forums", :D seriously you think rjjr would beat hagler little boy.... Roy jones doesnt have a chin <---- and antonio l ??? ??? ??? hmmm "who is he". Counter agree with you all the way, ppl dont know wot great is. Supposedley PBF is great how wait till he gets trampled im gonna piss my self i will just laugh if he gets floored i just wanna see him hurt. ODH come on hes out of his prime not tht great himself compared to the 80's w benitez would beat him chaves was more than over prime he was a fucking old man... Now the greats are "Hagler , Hearns , Duran, Leonard" only one since then that was brilliant was tyson untill he became a nut would have liked to see how his outcome would have been if cus was alive another 5 years longer with but . Wait till floydey has one of them then i want too know wot bullshit u guys put.
todays greats huh. Well has floyd actually had a fight yet i only see him run the marathon and dance the tango other than tht he likes to play the chicken wings with them arms when he's on the ropes. What really made me think was when ODH backed him up ok not the best but man hatton would give him nightmares and u want to know why hatton aint doing the weights up like PBF because hes and out to out fighter a true man not a john travolta disco chump like PBF. Oh btw you know who i think is p4p JOE CALZAGHE ... enough said now bitch about it but untill floyd beats the ppl joe has or joe wants to fight joe dont avoid ppl he wanted to fight rjj in his prime bh in his prime but they wanted too much money, so please ppl shut up about PBF pay me just 1 million and i will give him a better fight than ODH guarented cause that was fucking pathetic.
Man,you do get better each year your retired
Hagler couldnt deal with Leanords finesse,and got exposed
Hopkins is naturaly built Cruiserweight,who had the discipline to stay at middleweight for forever,and a Philly fighter,which means he loves to pressure
You guys are acting like the 40 year old Hopkins is the fighter he's been his whole career
Noone,and I do mean noone has ever knocked him out,and in all honesty Jones didnt even beat him
Dont,dont,dont believe the hype
Hagler could go 15 rounds at pace full pressure could Jones,Taylor or Hopkins and neither of these 3 have had wars where they have to really fight to keep there titles man it out who wants it more Haglers been their he would beat all 3
ReallyQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
So B-hop didnt get hip-tossed by Antwun Echols and proceed to win the next round and a half with only his left hand
So you think Hopkins would win and can you answer me this Hagler fought a Roy Jones was it Jones jnr's dadQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Hagler would bust them up BLOOD AND SNOT thats what you got :o :o :o
Ok how about a prime Hagler versus the super middleweight version of RJ
Of course 3 fights later after he fought Mr 12-1-1 Jones,he was taken to a decision by 9-27-5 Jim Henry,what a challenge that must have beenQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
So was it Roy Jones jnr's dad
RJJ in his prime would have schooled Hagler.
Jones never met anybody with Haglers chin and determination and power i think he would eventually catch up with him and take Jones out abit like Johnson didQuote:
Originally Posted by albsur2006
AS I SAID BLOOD AND SNOT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Prime for Prime RJJ UDs Hagler 9 times out of 10
I DONT THINK SO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In all honesty Im not sure,I know his dad did box,and the age range is right,but Jr lists a home town of Pensecola,and the Jones in question is from LV,it could also be the 0-2 Middleweight from NOQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
The middleweight James Toney would give the top middleweights of all time a good fight imo
MAYBE BUT I DONT THINK SSOOO :o :o :o :o :o
Jones would win 12 ud if it was 15 rounds Hagler wins tko.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Johnson reminds me of Hagler abit in the way he fights and i know Jones was past his best but look what Johnson did to him now Hagler is a good bit better than Johnson so i think he could have done the same to a prime Jones
Johnson like HAGLER WHAT THE HELL NO WAY :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :come on Johnson is not fit to carry his jock strap ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just fights abit like him thats allQuote:
Originally Posted by Counter
Marvin Hagler,a highly under rated All Time Great,with P4P one of the best chins ever. The ultimate seek and destroy fighter.
Marvelous was the man RJJ would give him a good fight though but in my opinion hagler would end up tko win cus he just keeps coming doesn't matter what you hit him with.
Leonard didn't beat Hagler, and Hopkins didn't beat Jones, IMO.
Hagler was a beast. Hagler vs BHOP, prime for prime would be a good fight. I give the edge to Hagler. Higher work rate, and more aggressiveness.
As for Jones vs Hagler, prime for prime. Well, it could go either way. Either Jones gets a UD, or gets caught late, and Hagler KOs him.
I still think Hop beat JonesQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
So does,Bhop,and for that matter from the way he keeps dodging a fight,so does Jones
Again,your trying to compair the late Bhop,against the early one,he clutched grabbed taking away ability for agression,while doing it in a way where he could still hit you.
Really agressive guys were tailor made for him back then,because he could sucker them in tight.
He shocked everyone by fighting away with Tito
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I've seen alot of BHOP's early fights, and he did good against aggresiveness, but Hagler fought other guys like that, and was never grabbed, or denied. Like I said, it would be a good fight, but Hagler wasn't one dimentional like Tito. And Hagler's chin was alot better than Tito's, and I'm as huge tito fan.
BHOP isn't, or wasn't ever strong enough to smother Hagler. Sorry.
Jones would lose to BHOP now, but he didn't lose then.
Sorry if i have read this wrong but did you say Hopkins beat Jones ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
You kidding,Bhop's a natural Cruiser/Light Heavy,hes an ox for the middleweight divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
He couldnt beat Tito,because he couldnt take Tito's power
Guess who had the power
He couldnt beat DLH because of his superior skill
Guess who had the skill
He couldnt beat Tarver because he wouldnt have power moving up
Guess who had the power again
People allways say Bhop cant win,against anyone
But somehow...........
He got the decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
But I dont think he won it
Now if hed fight Bhop again we could say one way or another,but Roy ALLWAYS has an excuse why he cant