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15 rounds but sometimes it can be more tragedy to go them extra rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
I love watching the old 15 rounders. Some of the recent fights you feel like they are end prematuraly when the fighters step out at the beginning of the 12th.
That being said though, watching 2 fighters who have given everything they've got by the 10th and knowing they've got another 5 to push through, I think 12 is better.
Some 12 rounds fights it just seems like the fighters are waiting for the 13th round to work their magic... In that way, you knew fighters would have to give something by the 15th round.
I always like 15 rounders...Thought it made for more dramitic fights...
Though I do agree with Safety first...As long as they don't go under 12 for title fights I am good with it
My heart say 15 rounds but my head says 12 rounds in name of the fighters safty.
12 rounds is i think perfect for most average boxers stamina so that they can perform in fast paced more adrenalin pumping style if they opt to. gifted endurance fighter though like pacquiao take advantage of this because pacman, ponce de leon and the likes should be born in the 15round era. Other fighters should be just considered wasted during the later rounds. And i really hate to see that in a fight. :(
I only like the idea of 15 bacause some fights take time to get going and by the time they get going i sometimes think to myself shame their int a few more rounds or when one guy is winning all the rounds then around round 8 or 9 the other guy comes on and i think if he'd had a few more rounds he'd have stopped him but safety wise 12 is better perhaps even 10
gotta go with 12 rounds....gotta keep safety first....we don't need anymore black eyes than we already have...Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Im all for 15 rounds baby!
Especially these days. Fighters don't fight with the same disregard to their health as thet used to. PLus the refs are far more clued up.
doesn't matter to me
If I for whatever reason ever found my self in a sanctioning body, having to vote on this subject, I would undoubtedly go with 12 rounds.
If I have to vote as a fan, I am not so sure, even if we disregard fighters' safety for a moment.
On the one hand most great 12 round fights would be even better by going 15 rounds. We all remember some of the great 15 rounders of the past, and we could all name a bunch of recent fights we wished would have gone on longer.
Considering how many fighters that seem to have problems with stamina even for 12 rounds, it would however not be unfair to say that some fights would be significantly worse if they had lasted 15 rounds. I mean, how many people here longed for 3 more rounds of Hatton-Urango? Or if fighting 15 rounds means fighting all rounds at a slower pace (adjusting for stamina), then how many people would even be capable of sitting through your average John Ruiz-fight?
Personally i'd like to see the end of 4 rounders .
Can't think of anything more pointless change it to 6-2's
How often do you see the better man lose just as he is getting warmed up.
Mikkel_K you make good points in your last paragraph about adjusting to the 15 rounders .
15 rounds. Imagine if the Barrera: Marquez fight was for 15! Or the first Hopkins: Taylor fight! Or even the Floyd: DLH fight!
Those would be gripping rounds!!
Or Taylor/Chavez....Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Sounds like a good idea for a thread actually!Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
15 round sno question in my mind.
I hate the fact we have 12 rounds that half can be won by each and result in a draw, seems stupid from the get go.
The level of fittnes in a boxer these days or, a champion is or should be to such a level that 15 rounds would not be a problem. IUt would stop odl past it fighters sticking around for longer than they should as the extra rounds could/would be to much for them.
With a good ref, and corner i doubt any boxer would suffer from a 15 round fight. Two of the worst and most 'famous' health incidents in boxing have come in 12 round fights (g-man/watson)
15 round fights would cut the shit out in boxing IMO - no more of this ricky hatton going up and down in weight, coz everyone will agree had it been a 15 round fight with collazo ricky would of been sparked out... and he isn;t the only, Taylor would of certainly lost to winky IMO had it been a 15 round fight.
Bring back 15 round fights and these champs who are half assing their performances will get fucking beat resulting in all true champions and boxers maintaing a high level of fittnes and most likely when injury free fighting more.
:coolclick: I agree entirely, 15 round fights need to be brought back in order for boxing to maintain it's position as the premier martial art combat sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
12 round fights are just too short. No real champions will ever be created when they only have 12 rounds to survive. There will always be question marks over current champions as to whether they could have hung with the big boys in 15 round fights.
Personally I think most of the current lot would get their asses kicked if they fought 20 years ago. Mostly a bunch of pussies fighting today.
Roy jones, calzaghe, mayweather hopkins in his prime of primes but i dont think he would of lasted long back then with top class... Barrera and morales in thier prime barrera even now; rafa marquez but alot of the rest i am uncertain with - to fucking lazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
CC#238 Preme good comments ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
13, 14 and 15 are the championship rounds. It's what seperates the men from the boys.
True ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Canvasback
IceCold, this is what I would have said. 12-15 rounds does seem to be the point where alot of fighters fatigue and make mistakes and fade and another guy comes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
15 rounds means probably TWICE the strategy needed. If your going to 15 rounds, you better have something over your opponent in those last 2 or 3.
Seperates the men from the boys is perfect!
Twelve rounds--15 rounds----Those three rounds do make a difference....They will always favor the guy with the bset cardio.....
Here is something crazy......
I have a boxing encyclopedia that talks about a fight back in the late or middle 1800's I think it was (I would have to look it up again) where two guys fought for 24 hours....The actually took a break after like 17 or 18 hours so the fans could sleep then resumed the fight in the morning!!!
Yep thats how Ali used to win because he always had little bit extra than the other guy in 13 14 and 15.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
This is probably the millionth time in the last month this fight has been used as an example, but floyd and oscar only really started swinging at the END of the 12th. They could have easy danced around for another 3 rounds.
My point being, some fights where the slug it out for 12 'rounds like Barrera v Morales, or Castillo v Coralles,,, the 12 rounds was all that was needed and we should have been able to pick a winner by the end of those...
But with some of the stick and move/don't get hit fights we've seen, the fights have barely started by the 12 'round,,, and they definetly should go another 3 to go....
In my opinion 15 is the ONLY way to do it...
A 12 rd fight leaves too many if's. 15 rounders would make a difference in some cases a big difference,hell it would cut down on alot of these draws.
lets put it this way, if all the fights in the past were 12 rounders, no one here would know who the hell marciano was.