‘Marquez pricing self out of rematch’(According to Arum)

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By ABAC CORDERO

The Philippine Star

GENERAL SANTOS CITY - Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of Juan Manuel Marquez?

The answer, according to Bob Arum, is a big, big no.

The reason why Marquez is not on the short list of Pacquiao’s possible opponents later this year, the legendary boxing promoter said, is that the Mexican champion is asking too much.

"Economically it doesn’t work," the 75-year-old Arum told Manila scribes during a coffee-shop interview in this tuna capital Friday morning.

Arum, owner of Top Rank Promotions, is here to lend moral support to Pacquiao who is eyeing a congressional seat in Monday’s elections.

"Juan Manuel Marquez is demanding a lot of money. And he has no fan base compared to Manny," said Arum. "He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."

Marquez wrested the World Boxing Council super-featherweight crown from Marco Antonio Barrera last March 17, and was mandated by the WBC to defend his title against Pacquiao in September.

Marquez and Pacquiao fought in May 2004 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The Filipino floored the Mexican thrice in the opening round but had to settle for a controversial draw.

An immediate rematch was drawn up. But Marquez refused to split the $1.5 million total purse with Pacquiao, and wound up facing lesser opponents for a smaller price as compared to Pacquiao.

And for economical reasons, the possible rematch between the two sturdy fighters may not happen yet. Arum said he sees his prize fighter climbing the ring not earlier than September.

Arum has dangled the names of four boxers before Pacquiao. They are, in this order, Joan Guzman of the Dominican Republic, Edwin Valero of Venezuela, Barrera and another Mexican, Humberto Soto.

Arum wants Guzman, the reigning WBO 135-lb champion, because "he’s totally free to enter into a contract" despite the fact that Golden Boy Promotions, Top Rank’s bitter rival, has a small hold on him.

Arum described Valero, the knockout specialist, as "a tremendous fighter." But the only downside is that the WBA champ cannot fight either in the US or Canada because of a contested medical test that showed some damage on his skull due to a motorcycle accident a couple of years back.

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www.phillippinestar.com

By ABAC CORDERO

The Philippine Star

GENERAL SANTOS CITY - Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of Juan Manuel Marquez?

The answer, according to Bob Arum, is a big, big no.

The reason why Marquez is not on the short list of Pacquiao’s possible opponents later this year, the legendary boxing promoter said, is that the Mexican champion is asking too much.

"Economically it doesn’t work," the 75-year-old Arum told Manila scribes during a coffee-shop interview in this tuna capital Friday morning.

Arum, owner of Top Rank Promotions, is here to lend moral support to Pacquiao who is eyeing a congressional seat in Monday’s elections.

"Juan Manuel Marquez is demanding a lot of money. And he has no fan base compared to Manny," said Arum. "He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."

Marquez wrested the World Boxing Council super-featherweight crown from Marco Antonio Barrera last March 17, and was mandated by the WBC to defend his title against Pacquiao in September.

Marquez and Pacquiao fought in May 2004 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The Filipino floored the Mexican thrice in the opening round but had to settle for a controversial draw.

An immediate rematch was drawn up. But Marquez refused to split the $1.5 million total purse with Pacquiao, and wound up facing lesser opponents for a smaller price as compared to Pacquiao.

And for economical reasons, the possible rematch between the two sturdy fighters may not happen yet. Arum said he sees his prize fighter climbing the ring not earlier than September.

Arum has dangled the names of four boxers before Pacquiao. They are, in this order, Joan Guzman of the Dominican Republic, Edwin Valero of Venezuela, Barrera and another Mexican, Humberto Soto.

Arum wants Guzman, the reigning WBO 135-lb champion, because "he’s totally free to enter into a contract" despite the fact that Golden Boy Promotions, Top Rank’s bitter rival, has a small hold on him.

Arum described Valero, the knockout specialist, as "a tremendous fighter." But the only downside is that the WBA champ cannot fight either in the US or Canada because of a contested medical test that showed some damage on his skull due to a motorcycle accident a couple of years back.

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Umm i would like to hear other side of the story first.

i hope this is not true cuz JMM vs PAC II is what the fans want and what makes the most sense!

i actually thought it would be a financially sound fight obviously i was wrong.

i love JMM and am a huge fan of his and his brother!

but come on man anyone can tell u he dont deserve the bigger percentage than PAC MAN!

PAC MAN is the hottest thing in the sport right now!

not again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This fight needs to happen. I can't believe this shat. Lets just get it on already. And if not, why go for those other guys, step up to 135 and fight the real champ, Cassamyoer(or however you spell it). That would be a fight I'd like to see.

"He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."


Just because he is the champion?! OMG! How dare he!

I thought this was a done deal!!! If they can't come to an agreement I say fuck both sides. Anyways I want to see Pacqiauo beat Valero and Guzman more.

Whatever happened to 50/50? I don't get it.

The only thing I hold against Pacquaio besides him being ranked too high on the p4p list is that he keeps on going into fights that end up 3 or 4 fights which don't let other people really get a chance to fight him. The people he does fight inbetween are just tune ups because there is no way Solis or Larios deserved a fight, even Morrales didn't deserve the third fight against him.

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The only thing I hold against Pacquaio besides him being ranked too high on the p4p list is that he keeps on going into fights that end up 3 or 4 fights which don't let other people really get a chance to fight him. The people he does fight inbetween are just tune ups because there is no way Solis or Larios deserved a fight, even Morrales didn't deserve the third fight against him.

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but theres nobody out there eager to fight him ??? what can he do if nobody is really trying to fight him, i give larios and solis props for fighting pacman and i give a hell of a lot of respect to morales for fighting him three times. which was suicide...but morales has more balls than anyone around so yea he gave the best he had left but he himself understood he can't beat pacman. atleast not at that night.

and besides jmm who deserves to fight pacman ???

guzman ??? valero ??? soto ??? after those fights we would think they were just tune ups too because they are not going to win against pac, does anyone think they are ready for a pacman ??? or will they even ever be able to beat pacman ???

the only fight out there for pac that is clearly not a tune up is jmm. lets get it on!!!!!!!!! any other fight does not matter or is a waste of time. PAC AND JMM NEEDS TO GET BACK IN THE RING WITH EACHOTHER AND FINISH SOME UNFINISH BUSINESS!!!!!!!!

I think Guzman, Valero & Soto would be good fights but feel Marquez should be next... its already been to long waiting for a rematch.

I can't believe Marquez is demanding a big purse, they should just settle on a 50/50 split & get it on.

Or they could make it a 60/40 for the winner

This is the second time JMM out priced himself to have a rematch with Pac.

I just hope JMM wont accept another peanut fight against unheard opponent and get his ass robbed again.

But hey, JMM-Chris John rematch is interesting too.

Go on stick to your guns Juan and fight Barrera again. Who needs Pacman? Valero does 8) That would be the craziest 4 round fight ever.

Get some brain cells : look at the sources Bob Arum & The Philippine Star..... Since when are these rats more credible than Reforma & Goldenboy Promotions ? Lets also consider they had a draw and both beat MAB...... looks like the tie breaker is that one has a championship belt and the other does not ! Sad that that you would believe and post such crap. Perhaps it just happens that Arum has little talent in his stable and will only risk a loss if it is financially rewarding? Plus why would Arum want ODLH to outshine him again ? Then lets take a look at the Philippine media which reports everytime Pac takes a shit. Actually Philippine ebay probably sells his stools. I like Pac, hate his no life followers ....




By ABAC CORDERO

The Philippine Star

GENERAL SANTOS CITY - Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of Juan Manuel Marquez?

The answer, according to Bob Arum, is a big, big no.

The reason why Marquez is not on the short list of Pacquiao’s possible opponents later this year, the legendary boxing promoter said, is that the Mexican champion is asking too much.

"Economically it doesn’t work," the 75-year-old Arum told Manila scribes during a coffee-shop interview in this tuna capital Friday morning.

Arum, owner of Top Rank Promotions, is here to lend moral support to Pacquiao who is eyeing a congressional seat in Monday’s elections.

"Juan Manuel Marquez is demanding a lot of money. And he has no fan base compared to Manny," said Arum. "He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."

Marquez wrested the World Boxing Council super-featherweight crown from Marco Antonio Barrera last March 17, and was mandated by the WBC to defend his title against Pacquiao in September.

Marquez and Pacquiao fought in May 2004 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The Filipino floored the Mexican thrice in the opening round but had to settle for a controversial draw.

An immediate rematch was drawn up. But Marquez refused to split the $1.5 million total purse with Pacquiao, and wound up facing lesser opponents for a smaller price as compared to Pacquiao.

And for economical reasons, the possible rematch between the two sturdy fighters may not happen yet. Arum said he sees his prize fighter climbing the ring not earlier than September.

Arum has dangled the names of four boxers before Pacquiao. They are, in this order, Joan Guzman of the Dominican Republic, Edwin Valero of Venezuela, Barrera and another Mexican, Humberto Soto.

Arum wants Guzman, the reigning WBO 135-lb champion, because "he’s totally free to enter into a contract" despite the fact that Golden Boy Promotions, Top Rank’s bitter rival, has a small hold on him.

Arum described Valero, the knockout specialist, as "a tremendous fighter." But the only downside is that the WBA champ cannot fight either in the US or Canada because of a contested medical test that showed some damage on his skull due to a motorcycle accident a couple of years back.


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ahmm whats wrong with the philippine star? it aint a tabloid cheapo newspaper! this aint about top rank or GBP, JMM is clearly ducking pac, i mean it happend twice already. askign to much of the purse then ending up takign a fight with a much smaller purse.

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Go on stick to your guns Juan and fight Barrera again. Who needs Pacman? Valero does 8) That would be the craziest 4 round fight ever.

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Im with you . I'm a huge Barrera fan and it would probably be his last fight . He is alays better in rematches and he is going into this one knowing he can drop Marquez with 1 shot whereas Marquez' best shots just bounce off him . Also Barrera showed he was the better technical fighter last time contrary to pre fight beliefs . Marquez looked a little plodding and predictable on the front foot . Again the decision could go either way as Vegas very rarely seem to get it right but if Barrera gets the nod i'd love to see him close the show with a win over Pac before retireing .

well here we go again. if that article is true then iam real ashame of marquez's camp they are doing what they've done in the 1st rematch attempt and ended up fighting the lowly chris john for a stupido super cheap amount compared to the purse offered from pacman fight and then to add insult to injury, he lost to this lowly fighter and eventually helped him establish his own name.

Now is the very best time to held the most anticipated rematch between the two. The purse will be enormous, JMM camp should hopefully realize that the pot size will almost likely be over 4-5times more than other marquez's future fights except of course with barrera's case. so no need to demand so much money and stop acting macho just because he is the current champ which still meant nothing until he beats "we know who" and just accept that pacman is undoubtedly the bigger draw between the two in any angle we look at it.

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well here we go again. if that article is true then iam real ashame of marquez's camp they are doing what they've done in the 1st rematch attempt and ended up fighting the lowly chris john for a stupido super cheap amount compared to the purse offered from pacman fight and then to add insult to injury, he lost to this lowly fighter and eventually helped him establish his own name.

Now is the very best time to held the most anticipated rematch between the two. The purse will be enormous, JMM camp should hopefully realize that the pot size will almost likely be over 4-5times more than other marquez's future fights except of course with barrera's case. so no need to demand so much money and stop acting macho just because he is the current champ which still meant nothing until he beats "we know who" and just accept that pacman is undoubtedly the bigger draw between the two in any angle we look at it.

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let marquez be with his greed and let him fight another fighter for $30 grand ala chris john.. all these greed with money is gonna rob boxing fans of the fights we've been deserving to see.

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Get some brain cells : look at the sources Bob Arum & The Philippine Star..... Since when are these rats more credible than Reforma & Goldenboy Promotions ? Lets also consider they had a draw and both beat MAB...... looks like the tie breaker is that one has a championship belt and the other does not ! Sad that that you would believe and post such crap. Perhaps it just happens that Arum has little talent in his stable and will only risk a loss if it is financially rewarding? Plus why would Arum want ODLH to outshine him again ? Then lets take a look at the Philippine media which reports everytime Pac takes a S***. Actually Philippine ebay probably sells his stools. I like Pac, hate his no life followers ....

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and why would el gamo quote philippine star if it was not credible?

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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing

Get some brain cells : look at the sources Bob Arum & The Philippine Star..... Since when are these rats more credible than Reforma & Goldenboy Promotions ? Lets also consider they had a draw and both beat MAB...... looks like the tie breaker is that one has a championship belt and the other does not ! Sad that that you would believe and post such crap. Perhaps it just happens that Arum has little talent in his stable and will only risk a loss if it is financially rewarding? Plus why would Arum want ODLH to outshine him again ? Then lets take a look at the Philippine media which reports everytime Pac takes a S***. Actually Philippine ebay probably sells his stools. I like Pac, hate his no life followers ....




By ABAC CORDERO

The Philippine Star

GENERAL SANTOS CITY - Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of Juan Manuel Marquez?

The answer, according to Bob Arum, is a big, big no.

The reason why Marquez is not on the short list of Pacquiao’s possible opponents later this year, the legendary boxing promoter said, is that the Mexican champion is asking too much.

"Economically it doesn’t work," the 75-year-old Arum told Manila scribes during a coffee-shop interview in this tuna capital Friday morning.

Arum, owner of Top Rank Promotions, is here to lend moral support to Pacquiao who is eyeing a congressional seat in Monday’s elections.

"Juan Manuel Marquez is demanding a lot of money. And he has no fan base compared to Manny," said Arum. "He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."

Marquez wrested the World Boxing Council super-featherweight crown from Marco Antonio Barrera last March 17, and was mandated by the WBC to defend his title against Pacquiao in September.

Marquez and Pacquiao fought in May 2004 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The Filipino floored the Mexican thrice in the opening round but had to settle for a controversial draw.

An immediate rematch was drawn up. But Marquez refused to split the $1.5 million total purse with Pacquiao, and wound up facing lesser opponents for a smaller price as compared to Pacquiao.

And for economical reasons, the possible rematch between the two sturdy fighters may not happen yet. Arum said he sees his prize fighter climbing the ring not earlier than September.

Arum has dangled the names of four boxers before Pacquiao. They are, in this order, Joan Guzman of the Dominican Republic, Edwin Valero of Venezuela, Barrera and another Mexican, Humberto Soto.

Arum wants Guzman, the reigning WBO 135-lb champion, because "he’s totally free to enter into a contract" despite the fact that Golden Boy Promotions, Top Rank’s bitter rival, has a small hold on him.

Arum described Valero, the knockout specialist, as "a tremendous fighter." But the only downside is that the WBA champ cannot fight either in the US or Canada because of a contested medical test that showed some damage on his skull due to a motorcycle accident a couple of years back.

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whats up with the hate of pac followers or pac fans.. this is a free country. nobody knocks you for being a fan of whoever. just because some of us are fanatics it gives you the right to hate them. fans are fans regardless of who they root for. and your bashing the philippine star like its a gossip-making column like entertainment weekly or any rumor starting magazine

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Originally Posted by sleeplessrevolution

well here we go again. if that article is true then iam real ashame of marquez's camp they are doing what they've done in the 1st rematch attempt and ended up fighting the lowly chris john for a stupido super cheap amount compared to the purse offered from pacman fight and then to add insult to injury, he lost to this lowly fighter and eventually helped him establish his own name.

Now is the very best time to held the most anticipated rematch between the two. The purse will be enormous, JMM camp should hopefully realize that the pot size will almost likely be over 4-5times more than other marquez's future fights except of course with barrera's case. so no need to demand so much money and stop acting macho just because he is the current champ which still meant nothing until he beats "we know who" and just accept that pacman is undoubtedly the bigger draw between the two in any angle we look at it.

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let marquez be with his greed and let him fight another fighter for $30 grand ala chris john.. all these greed with money is gonna rob boxing fans of the fights we've been deserving to see.

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well yeah it's a real shame but iam still counting and believing that someday these two greats will meet because it's inevitable. just hoping that they would do it before their career starts to spiral downwards, thus, losing some luster of hype in their much awaited rematch.

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Get some brain cells : look at the sources Bob Arum & The Philippine Star..... Since when are these rats more credible than Reforma & Goldenboy Promotions ? Lets also consider they had a draw and both beat MAB...... looks like the tie breaker is that one has a championship belt and the other does not ! Sad that that you would believe and post such crap. Perhaps it just happens that Arum has little talent in his stable and will only risk a loss if it is financially rewarding? Plus why would Arum want ODLH to outshine him again ? Then lets take a look at the Philippine media which reports everytime Pac takes a S***. Actually Philippine ebay probably sells his stools. I like Pac, hate his no life followers ....




By ABAC CORDERO

The Philippine Star

GENERAL SANTOS CITY - Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of Juan Manuel Marquez?

The answer, according to Bob Arum, is a big, big no.

The reason why Marquez is not on the short list of Pacquiao’s possible opponents later this year, the legendary boxing promoter said, is that the Mexican champion is asking too much.

"Economically it doesn’t work," the 75-year-old Arum told Manila scribes during a coffee-shop interview in this tuna capital Friday morning.

Arum, owner of Top Rank Promotions, is here to lend moral support to Pacquiao who is eyeing a congressional seat in Monday’s elections.

"Juan Manuel Marquez is demanding a lot of money. And he has no fan base compared to Manny," said Arum. "He wants a bigger percentage (of the total pot) than Manny just because he’s the champion."

Marquez wrested the World Boxing Council super-featherweight crown from Marco Antonio Barrera last March 17, and was mandated by the WBC to defend his title against Pacquiao in September.

Marquez and Pacquiao fought in May 2004 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The Filipino floored the Mexican thrice in the opening round but had to settle for a controversial draw.

An immediate rematch was drawn up. But Marquez refused to split the $1.5 million total purse with Pacquiao, and wound up facing lesser opponents for a smaller price as compared to Pacquiao.

And for economical reasons, the possible rematch between the two sturdy fighters may not happen yet. Arum said he sees his prize fighter climbing the ring not earlier than September.

Arum has dangled the names of four boxers before Pacquiao. They are, in this order, Joan Guzman of the Dominican Republic, Edwin Valero of Venezuela, Barrera and another Mexican, Humberto Soto.

Arum wants Guzman, the reigning WBO 135-lb champion, because "he’s totally free to enter into a contract" despite the fact that Golden Boy Promotions, Top Rank’s bitter rival, has a small hold on him.

Arum described Valero, the knockout specialist, as "a tremendous fighter." But the only downside is that the WBA champ cannot fight either in the US or Canada because of a contested medical test that showed some damage on his skull due to a motorcycle accident a couple of years back.

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whats up with the hate of pac followers or pac fans.. this is a free country. nobody knocks you for being a fan of whoever. just because some of us are fanatics it gives you the right to hate them. fans are fans regardless of who they root for. and your bashing the philippine star like its a gossip-making column like entertainment weekly or any rumor starting magazine
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It's not that I hate Pac fans, its just that they post heaps of speculation and would have you believe it is the truth. In Mexico there are far too many news ongoings and other boxers & athletes to follow that is why you do no hear all the crap that The Philippine Star posts. Remember papers are meant to sell and writers will write anything that can sell. We all know true news in the Philippines is not reported if you value your life. As many jounalist there are forced to carry arms. So now that JMM is concerned about his finances he is afraid? While Pac man continues to make financial blunders as his latest political adventure just filled the pockets of what he believed were his friends. So it is ok to be stupid and irresponsible as long as you win fights but to be a champion & demand respect in the form of the larger purse is being a coward?