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According to a recent report in the Newark Star-Ledger , Mayweather would be willing to come out of retirement for a potential bout with Felix "Tito" Trinidad, who also happens to be retired.Mayweather, who weighed 148-pounds on the night he won a split-decision over De La Hoya, is not worried about fighting Trinidad at 160-pounds.
"I keep telling you guys weight don't win fights," Mayweather said. "With Oscar, it was a welterweight fighting a middleweight.
am i reading this right or does he want to fight tito at 160? for once i'm going to say this could be a bit dodgy for floyd cus if the fight was made at 160 tito would have an enormous amount of power compared to floyd. also wouldfloyd going i significantly lighter against tito like he did against oscar to regain his quickness?
Go on floyd..Do it! :)
Samrt move. Tito is done. More cherry picking by PBF. bAD FOR THE LEGACY.
Mayweather would beat Tito easy Tito would only have a punchers chance Floyd is to skillfull and elusive
Yea Tito would get frustrated and all out of his gameplan.... Bad style Matchup for Tito, Winky was faster and out landing Tito....
Tito's power wouldnt even be a factor just like Delahoyas wasnt, I like Tito alot and I hate to see him come out of retirement again just to get embarrased again :-\
yeah. it is best if tito doesn't fight mayweather.
I like Tito, but the only chance he has in this fight is to catch Floyd flush and hopefully knock him out. That ain't happening, if Tito couldn't hit Winky, who is much less mobile than PBF, he's not hitting Floyd.
I think one thing people are overlooking is that Tito wouldnt fight below 160 so Floyd would have to move up again. Those extra pounds may slow him down abit plus 12 rounds is a long time to avoid power punches from Tito who unlike Oscar doesnt tire late on . Floyd has never met a puncher like him before so it would be interesting .
Thats a fair point, but I don't think that Floyd would come in at 160, I'd be surprised if he came into the ring above 155, he was 150 for the ODH fight right? Speed and movement will be his (PBF's) main assets in this fight, should it happen, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd weight the same as he did for the ODH fight. Tito may not have tired in the past, but he has been retired for a while, so that may affect his stamina and he'll surely be rusty. Tito has also been frusterated (Winky fight) by defensive-minded opponents, and he didn't know what to do to adapt. Once again, I like Tito, but I think Floyd schools him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Youre probably right and I agree with your prediction but just to play devils advocate , I dont think Floyd has the power to discourage Tito . He couldnt break an egg down at super feather so he punches are guna be proper weak up at middleweight .Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As I say Floyd would just play it safe and take it on points but i'd love to see a trademark Tito left hook land flush on its target and knock Floyd unconscious
I think you're probably right that Floyd doesn't have the power to hurt Tito, though it looked like he surprised ODH a couple of time with how hard he punches. I guess it goes without saying that a prime Tito vs PBF would've been a much more interesting fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You know...you & me...wev'e been damned dyed in the wool brothers since the first time that you logged into our glorious site.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
We share a lot of the same hobbies, likes, & boxers.
That being siad...about boxers...the thoughts of Floyd at 160lbs should make your mouth...him trying to out slick Tito...that's a treat!
Thing is...imagine if Tito beat him...what that would to to Oscar's head. :o
I think Floyd wants to beat a Puerto Rican real bad, that's what makes the Cotto fight a real possibility. Of course Floyd would fight Trinidad, it's big money but I say fight the next best thing, Cotto.
:coolclick: Good thread Bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I agree to disgree with what you said:
Smart move? Yes. Lots of money there & conquering the man that beat Oscar would put more cement in his shoes to hold him firmly in place for the future legacey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
While I do believe Tito is done...I don't see it as cherry pickin. Trinidad is a MASSIVE name & Triniad ran his mouth a little too much in HBO's 24 - 7 slot. In teh end...he should be...in all truths pitted agaist either the winner of Taylor Spinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
Nah. Disagree there. Imagine having Osca, Mosley & Tito on the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
Floyd's headed for greatness...no doubt.
did you guys see how big trinidad was in 24/7? he must have been over 200 lbs. No way he ever makes 160 again, Tito is done just face it.
Yeah Puya talked about how he met him just recently and he was huge. Good point I never even thought of that.
crap pbf fighting another oldie. :-[ staying retired to preserve his undefeated record and to avoid crappy mandatory challenges and possible real tough match ups and have the privilege to call out more oldies on his own disgression. cheap trick floyd. sadly, fans knows that and ultimately "respect" will be handed to those who are truly worthy. So don't go berserk saying "you don't get the proper respect you should get thus the need to retire" don't blame the fans, it's your own doing that you got yourself in that situation. Fans respect and appreciate your skills for sure, but you can never attain the type of respect you long for years for as long as you keep choosing cheap tricky fights to make you look good and WOW some old veteran fans just because you intend to fight at higher weights with some great great names but we all know they aren't just old but rusty as well. Well, it's never too late after the oldie tito, you can always fight some real career threatening active fighters, boxers that the fans really want you to fight with, just clean them up, we know you're capable it's just a matter of execution,the heart and desire to do it. after that, all the respect in the world you ever longed will be yours once and for all.
You're acting as if 15 years have passed and Floyd is in his mid 40s, long retired, and never having faced another good challenger after the DLH fight. Since we all know he isn't going to retire, can we at least wait until the actual opponent is named before lashing into him for no reason. If he does in fact say that his next fight will be against either Mosley, Cotto, or the Williams-Margarito winner, this criticism is meaningless. All I'm saying is wait for something to be written in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeplessrevolution
Whats sad is that Floyd has to fight guys who bring in the starpower cause he doesnt have much. Taylor is far too big and would kill him with the jab all night and maybe stop him, and Tito is too one dimensional. Floyd should stay away from Middleweight. His ego wont let him though and thats when hell get his first loss. When athletes like Floyd fall, they fall hard.
Floyd should definantly go to 160!!!!! He would gain a TON of respect from me!!!
Mayweather Jr. vs any of these would be good: Miranda, Abraham, Taylor, Pavlik....get outta town buddy if he pulled that off he would be considered a GREAT fighter even from ME!!!
I disagree here because to me, this is like when Roy went to heavyweight and picked Ruiz. I don't think anyone on this board thinks that was either his toughest fight, nor was it his most memorable win. IMO, there's nothing heroic about moving up in weight if you aren't gunning for the best in that division, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, Taylor is just too big and would probably seriously hurt Floyd. He'd gain much more respect from me, and I think by a large majority of people, by taking on either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto, rather than Abraham or Miranda (not saying those two aren't good, but not the most intriguing threats).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
PBF is hella faster than ANYONE at middleweight....and his counters are good enough to stop the onslaught of other fighters.
IMO it would show Floyd is willing to take risks and that is my biggest problem with him (aside from his bad attitude)
No one's arguing against the speed advantage he'd have, but ask yourself this; why did Floyd come into the DLH fight basically weighing the same as he does when he fought at welterweight? It's because he's reached the point where he can't go up any further. You can't simply stay at 147-148 pounds and just expect to prance through divisions at will. Floyd had his hands full with Oscar, a fighter who we all know himself had no business ever going to middleweight, so what is a true middleweight going to do to Mayweather?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He couldnt beat any of those guys. He too defensive and tried to fight off the ropes. These guys would crush him. Hes not even a real Light Middleweight imo. He weighed in light and at Lt. Middleweight. he will have to put on more weight just to make the minimum limit. Hes really weighed about 147/148 for the past couple years. Even if he weighed in 158 for a fight at Middleweight hed either be too muscular or too fat. Either way he would be slower. Even in the Oscar fight he was a little slower than he was a Welterweight. At this weight Mosley is faster. As he keeps moving up hes abandoning his natural gifts and stregnths and these guys will not respect his power so he cant keep them off him. His punches even bounced off Baldo and Oscar.
The only fighter Floyd should fight at middleweight would be Cory Spinks if he pulled out the unbelievable.
Besides, unless Floyd signed with Goldenboy, I think Oscar would try to nix this fight somehow, and get in the ring with Tito himself.
I personally would rather see Floyd fight the top guys at 147. If he unifies ww, then, maybe go out with a bang at 160. But 160 is pushing the limit, even for a fighter of Floyd's caliber.
I think he could beat Miranda as Edison is EASILY frustrated and would foul out of that fight.
Kassim Ouma would be a tough test for Floyd
This post stinks to high Bullshit!!!!! Floyd just fought the pinnacle fight of his career ans now he is making noise in the media... Like he would really fight Trinidad ::** I'm sure an intelligent Fella like you can see that, but that probably works contrary to your Floyd hatred... If it was another fighter surely you would discern the differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by sleeplessrevolution
Floyd dosent belong at Middle unless he fights Spinks when Spinks beats Taylor..... 147 is were he belongs period!!!!
The beat barometer will be Spinks and how effective he is, Spinks is slick and very effective, if he can hang then Floyd could, other than that FLOYD STAY THE HELL AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
....TAKE A CHANCE FLOYD!!!
What's the worst that could happen???
Well I'm willing to RISK IT
Your drinking Lyncburg Lemonade right now arent you??? Drunk Azz making comments like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
hahaha, nah my friend, I am drinking Yuengling and it's the first one of the day as well.
I just figure if Floyd is so damn good he can win A title at middleweight.....we all know he never unifies anything
i think PBF could drop tito a couple of times with his speed and accuracy
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I will fight anyone who is old and past their prime.
Floyd would fight Ali at heavy weight if Ali dared to step in the ring.
lol ccQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Let us recall something folks. In their primes, Oscar was beating Tito with ease. Why the hell he stopped throwing the last 3 rounds??? Well...maybe that's why Alcazar got fired immediately. Anyway, after outboxing/outclassing Trinidad ...Floyd would embarass Tito ( not like Winky did, but almost as bad ). And this is coming from a person who really dislikes Floyd!
Floyd would win 120-108. Tito has never been a great boxer, not even in his prime, he has no chance. He would come charging trying to kill Floyd though.
Tito's problem is he never has a plan B
No reason to fight Tito now, Winky already took the shine off of him
Now the younger guys.....PBF could really make a big name for himself by beating a Taylor, Miranda, or Abraham
OR Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito
please Floyd at least Unify 147 and then leave with the respect you want so much.
people don't fight oscar anymore for respect they fight him for the dolloars. that the same reason PBF wants to fight tito. if tito came back Hopkins would run back down to 160.
puya is that vid the King of New York
if you read the post slowly, i don't really believe pbf really meant retiring and even more so i don't think he will not fight anymore cotto,mosely in the future i didn't say that on conrary i've mentioned in the end of my post if you ever got there "it's never too late after the oldie tito, you can always fight some real career threatening active fighters, boxers that the fans really want you to fight with, just clean them up, we know you're capable it's just a matter of execution,the heart and desire to do it. after that, all the respect in the world you ever longed will be yours once and for all." it's not necessary to wait until something to be written in the stone the fact that he said he wants to fight trinidad points out his real interest and that's where he got the criticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samson3000