I mean we all talked that mayweather goes up in weight without cleaning any weight Division.
Some say there is no one to beat and some say he is too scared to damage that record. What you guys thing he should do?
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I mean we all talked that mayweather goes up in weight without cleaning any weight Division.
Some say there is no one to beat and some say he is too scared to damage that record. What you guys thing he should do?
Nice thread. I'd like to see him fight the winner of Margarito/Williams. Or the more popular choice, the winner of judah/cotto fights the winner of margarito/williams, the winner of that tournament should get a shot at Floyd. To me that makes the most sense. Since that scenario would take about a year to play out, Floyd should fight Sugar Shane Mosely in the meantime.
I'm a big Floyd fan, but even I think he still has more to prove. Theres a lot of unfinished business out there for him. There's a potential showdown with Hatton - something that should have happened after the Gatti fight. There's Cotto. Sugar Shane Mosley is on a hot streak and would make for a great matchup. The winner of Williams/Margarito.
Floyd has the talent to go down as an all time great IMO, but retiring with unfinished business when you still have YEARS ahead of you is not the way to do it. ALl those guys I listed, Floyd can beat. He has the talent and the ability. He's at the peak of his popularity now due to the Oscar fight. Whether people love him or hate him, now everyone knows about him. He's a household name, and all eyes will be on him. This is the time for him to add to his legacy. If he cares at all about how he goes down in history of boxing, retiring is a big mistake IMO.
You know what's funny? Floyd never went up in weith yeas he fought in a higher weight div but he never went up in weight.
HE is a truely 147 fighter.
Mosley
Cotto
Williams
Margo
HAtton ( if he goes to 170 between fights why he can't fight at 147?)
Judah II
pick up a broom and try to sweep that is all we asked for and for all the talk PBF's has there is no problem he can pull it off so come on boy PROOVE your self once and for all. And then go make movies and Music Videos or what ever you want to trow your money away with.
Once you've made 26 Million for a fight, I can see how it could be hard to go back to making 10-12 Million. It be different if Floyd felt like it would matter but he doesn't. He beat ODLH and people aren't satisfied and badmouth him just because he's not a brawling, crowd pleasing fighter. He's a smart boxer and people don't have respect for what he does anymore. Willie Pep was a feather fisted fighter but was a ring generalman and uses his smarts and skills to win fights. If Willie Pep fought today, idiots on this board would be calling him boring and would show no respect for his skill and intelligence.
Moving up to 154 to fight a fighter with a legacy like ODLH is a big accomplishment. It's much bigger than fighting any of the fights that are being mentioned like Cotto and Margarito. How do you go from fighting ODLH to fighting Margarito? That's ludicrous. If Margarito unified then called out Mayweather, it might be different but right now that fight makes no sense. The only two fights that mean something IMO are Mosley (because he's fairly popular and has wins over ODLH) and Hatton (because he's also undefeated and a huge star in Britian). To be honest, fuck Mosely. I don't blame Floyd for not wanting to fight that sparring partner. Floyd has legitimately approached this guy for a fight THREE TIMES, once in 1999 when Floyd wanted to move up from 130 to 135 and Mosley said that he would need 10 Million to take the fight (wtf?), then in November of 2006 when the fight really made a lot of sense and Mosley didn't want the fight again, then in February this year, Mosley said that he didn't wanna interfere with the ODLH fight. Mayweather hasn't been lying about chasing Mosley for years. Now all of a sudden Mosley wants the fight? Fuck you. Hatton is the fight that needs to be made. Then retire. Boxing is full of hypocrites. ODLH runs against Tito for 4 straight rounds on a HUGE PPV fight and his fans don't seem to remember that. Floyd stands and fights for the most part against ODLH and people are still talking shit.
it doesn't matter what he does he could clean house in every division he's fought in so far and somebody would find a bum and be like "well if he's so great why hasn't he fought THIS guy?"
Thats stupid, i dont think many people disagree that he is a great fighter its just they'd like to see him tested by some other good fighters before he retired. Cotto, Mosely, Hatton, Margarito and Wright are hardly bums, and they are the guys people wanna see him fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
I know this won't be the popular choice, but I say risk it all and try for Taylor at 160.
6 WBC straps in 6 weight classes? Good lordy, that'd be a feat.
He's GOT to be thinking about that. He loves them greens.
Aside from that improbability, I don't know what he could do.
Wait to see how this whole mini WW tourney plays out?
Margarito and Hatton don't deserve a shot yet. We'll have to wait and see what Cotto does against Judah. I mean if Judah somehow comes out of this whole WW picture on top, does Floyd need to fight him again?? I say not.
So it's basically down to a Mosley or De La Hoya rematch for now. Please lord, don't let it come to an Oscar rematch.
I smell something rotten happening in a rematch decision.
So purely by default, I wanna see him fight Mosley next. But I somehow get the feeling Floyd isn't interested in that fight.
I agree with you. :coolclick: If he won, he'd equal Oscar's six weights and will have done it convincingly and while undefeated. Plus if he beat a guy who is undisputed middleweight champion that is young, fresh and has defeated Hopkins and drawn with Wright, who then would say he shouldn't retire?Quote:
Originally Posted by meowza
Gotta beat him first. Could happen but a massive size difference....Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think what he can and will do is stay retired for a while, keep his name in the papers and keep his name buzzing around the sports world by talking about who he should rematch or who he should fight, then finally when Miguel Cotto beats Zab, talk a little crap about Cotto. Then Cotto will say some stuff about him and then after Cotto beats Margarito/Williams get on HBO and talk more shit about him. By that time Cotto would be a big Puerto Rican star, and Floyd would still have his name and the fight would be huge. And the fight would be anticipated on a whole bunch of different levels as Cotto would represent the real scary power puncher in his prime with the strong Puerto Rican following. And Mayweather would have tons of fans tuning in to see him get knocked out or win decisively. It would be like De La Hoya - Tito II.
I know. I'm not sure he would win either.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
ain't that the damn truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
i think he should fight shane at 147.
if cotto wins fight him at 147
if hatton wins fight him
cc back.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm really not sure how a PBF - Taylor fight would play out, but the rewards are too juicy to not consider it.
And a loss at 160 would be far less damaging than a loss at 147.
I mean, he'll take slack no matter what weight he loses at. I mean, he's Floyd.
But jumping all the way to 160 would be an honourable way to take that L.
Maybe, just maybe, his critics will cut him some slack for losing way out of his comfort zone.
But then again, Taylor hasn't been all that as of late. Plenty of holes including fading out in the stretch and wasted punches can be exposed by Floyd possibly...
6 for 6, Floyd.. I know you're thinkin' about it, baby.
Thats no where near THE DAMN TRUTH. Shane, Cotto and Hatton aren't bums, and if he beat any of them more people who actually know boxing would give him credit. He is great but people wanna see him tested. Yes some people hate floyd cos he is arrogant, but forget those people they knoe little about boxing....Quote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
I completely agree with "boxer" on this one, except for the Cotto pick. He should fight Sugar Shane, then hatton and then a rematch with Zab who's going to blow Cotto out of the water.
thats the point. as long as PBF keeps winning people will always say he hasn't fought anybody.
if he beat cotto the hater will say cotto was overrated and untested
if he beats shane the haters will say shane was old and past his prime
if he beats hatton the haters will say hatton was overrated for beating an old kostya
if he beats margarito the haters will say he was overrated(this i agree with)
after PBF beats those guys the haters say he's ducking somebody else.
I still say he's ducking Butterbean. How can you claim to be the best when you haven't beaten Butterbean?
i think zab will win also but i don't wanna see another fight with zab.
If he fights an beats the winner of the ww tournament he will have beat a tested fighter in their prime. Which he would do.
I can live with that. while that is settle go ahead and fight Mosley
ya'll act like he hasn't beat a test figther in there prime already.
I disagree, I think people just either wantQuote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
A) Clarification that he is a true great
B) Want to see him fight because they like him
C) Want to see him get KTFO
A lot of Floyd lovers seem to act like there are no boxers out there worthy enough to fight him.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
no there are plenty of fighters for him to fight. the point is as long as he wins it doesn't matter who he fights because the hater will complain. ya'll wanna see him lose. untill he loses ya'll will say he hasn't fought anybody.
I'd like to go with choice "C". Fighters from the dawn of boxing all the way through the 50's would crap a brick if they saw this guy in an interview. He's a prick. EVERYONE has their vices. Nobody is perfect. Atheletes of the past had enough decency and honor to be respectful. I think of fighters like Dempsey and Marciano and then I look at Floyd.....sigh. Floyd the embodyment of everything that's wrong with sports today. You all wonder why people hate Floyd and claim it's jealousy of his skills. For some of us, it's not. We cheer for the fighters that embody some or many virtues. Flody has none. Just my opinion though. Long story short, I'm going with "C".
I dont care if he ends up 1000 and 0 i just wanna him fight top guys for as long as he can....... I'd love to be able to say to my kids one day that i used to watch an all time great in PBF, but if he retires now i wont be able to say that......Quote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i think he should unify the ww division
and maybe give us the massacre he promised us :o
i want to see him unify 147 to shut all the haters up.
if he beats the winners of tony williams and cotto judah then who's left hatton ok and beats him then if that don't shut them up what will?
even if he fights SSM and fights these guys will the haters keep quiet?
quick answer no because they will still say someone is good enough to beat him and heis ducking them. lol next they will be saying maussa is a worthy opponent for him crying out loud.
problem with pbf is he is pricing himself too much for the fans eyes. if you do that, then you got a lot to prove. If he is calling himself the greatest ever, then he needs to fight all fighters that threatens his greatness. He cannot say i don't want to fight hatton,cotto,mosely and the likes because they aren't worthy of fighting me or presumed they are no match for you. PBF whould be aware that fans has the ultimate authority of who and who's not worthy to fight you. if pbf lets the fans decide whom he'll fight next then he gets more respect from that. it eliminates doubters one by one and by showing you aren't choosy and willing to fight everyone. You raise the bar of respect even higher. so what should mayweather do after he got that very big paycheck from ODLH fight?.. He should try to win and follow the fan's heart..
To be fair, Maussa is a world beater!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayweatherpfp
sleepless has just earned genius status in my eyes.
You're right. I wish he'd follow through on his threats too. Remember how just before the DLH fight he said he said he would "punch Ricky Hatton is his fat belly"? and was only retiring in America, but would fight in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeplessrevolution
If you make a threat like that, follow it up.
CC and thank you mate just trying to express what i feel as a boxing fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Entragian
yeah i agree. he should back it up or else it's another let down to the fans eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
You can call me a Floyd "hater" if you want to. I just want to see the guy fight the winner of the ww tournament. If he does that, he wins me over. Maybe fight Hatton if he gets past castillo.
You're a Floyd hater :PQuote:
Originally Posted by chuckyboy481
I hate the guy too and I badly wanna see him get KO'd, but every topic you start seems to have something to do with hating Floyd, which is why you're facing so much opposition.
I know alot of people want to see Floyd fight Hatton, but I think fighting the cream of the crop Mosley and then maybe Wright would prove more. Just because if he beats Hatton, people will say he beat a guy who is the right style for him. I would like to see him fight Hatton, but stylewise it is the wrong fight for Hatton. Ricky Hatton has some great fights for him at welterweight.. Although Margarito seems a bit big for Hatton. Hatton/Judah? Great fight. Again Judah would fall the same way he did to Tszyu.. I like Hatton, I just do not think Floyd and Ricky are at the right timing now. Hatton is moving up when Floyd is taking on the Delahoya and Mosleys. Hatton has alot of guys to fight even without Floyd to fight.
I could care less about how much opposition I'm facing. I didn't come on here for everyone to agree with me. I've said plenty of times before on other topics, if Floyd fights the winner of the ww tournament (excpet if its Judah, which i don't think it will be) then you won't hear another bad comment about Floyd from me again. Win or lose, just stepping in the ring with a solid fighter in their prime while he is on top. If that happens, I'll take back everything I've said.
Fair play, but don't you think he deserves any credit for what he's done thus far? I'm bemused to how you can credit Margo for achieving a big fat fuck all when Floyd's list of people he's defeated is so impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckyboy481