OK let me try and make sense out of the nonsense on sportscenter today...

They said that brett favre is not in joe montanas league (i think favre is the best qb ever but if you wanna rank him 3rd behind elway and montana, i understand) but a few months ago they traied to compare brady to montana and some people said he was better. Ok lets look at the patriots final possesions in their three winning superbowls. The first two were fieldgoals which is like losing a boxing match by dominating the first 4 rounds, getting headbutted, losing the 5th and the fight gets called afterwards giving your opponent a techinical decision. The 3rd one, brady handed off to his running back 3 str8 times. Good strategy? yes but don't call him the most clutch qb in history when you wouldn't put it in his hands to try and convert a first down when they needed one. >:mad

.....agreed


ESPN/SportsCenter, much like their owner ABC have begun telling half truths or telling a story with an agenda!!!

Being a 9ERS fan me self it's quite simple.

1. Montana
2. The rest.......

Well freakin Joe Cool won what 4 Super Bowls??? and NEVER lost one!!!

Montana led one of the best offenses in the history of the game! When has Brady ever done that???




I would like to give shout outs to my boys Johnny Unintas and Broadway Joe Namath though.....those were some good qb's as were Bart Starr and Roger Staubach

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Being a 9ERS fan me self it's quite simple.

1. Montana
2. The rest.......

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I'm not a 9ers fan and I think Montana was great but I think Steve Young was better than him. Montana had more people around him to make him better than Young did, in opionion anyway.

I'm an Elway fan. He's done the most with the least in my opinion. My top 5

1. Elway
2. Montana
3. Favre (even though I hate the Packers)
4. Jim Kelly
5. Steve Young

I am a Bears fan so liking the Packers is illegal where I was raised.

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

They said that brett favre is not in joe montanas league (i think favre is the best qb ever but if you wanna rank him 3rd behind elway and montana, i understand) but a few months ago they traied to compare brady to montana and some people said he was better. Ok lets look at the patriots final possesions in their three winning superbowls. The first two were fieldgoals which is like losing a boxing match by dominating the first 4 rounds, getting headbutted, losing the 5th and the fight gets called afterwards giving your opponent a techinical decision. The 3rd one, brady handed off to his running back 3 str8 times. Good strategy? yes but don't call him the most clutch qb in history when you wouldn't put it in his hands to try and convert a first down when they needed one. >:mad

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favre is overrated, but he isnt shitty, marino > favre, young > favre, montana > young, marino > montana, judah > mayweather jr

also carson palmer was fucking UNSTOPABLE before his leg got KTFO


and these guys ALL SUCK BALLS and the media puts them over cuz theyt are from sports towns that can make big advertising dollars if the peopel think they got a good team...


rothesburger (WAS NEVER ANY GOOD AT ALL)
eli manning (complete joke)
grossman
vick
romo

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Originally Posted by Wadeb_21

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Being a 9ERS fan me self it's quite simple.

1. Montana
2. The rest.......

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I'm not a 9ers fan and I think Montana was great but I think Steve Young was better than him. Montana had more people around him to make him better than Young did, in opionion anyway.

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i think you might be the only other person ive ever heard say that besides myself.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

also carson palmer was F****** UNSTOPABLE before his leg got KTFO


and these guys ALL SUCK BALLS and the media puts them over cuz theyt are from sports towns that can make big advertising dollars if the peopel think they got a good team...


rothesburger (WAS NEVER ANY GOOD AT ALL)
eli manning (complete joke)
grossman
vick
romo

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michael vick is the most explosive/dangerous player to ever put on an nfl jersey. this will be his breakout year O0

i agree 1,000,000% on roethlisberger, though

Farve is the best, When the last time he had a decent team and he still wins! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdRG3...elated&search=

He did the coolest thing i've ever seen a quarter back do. Back in the '03 season when he had a broken thumb all year and arguably one of the best offensive lines in history (had a solid all around team that management started giving away) He had a guy open 30 yards down field who stopped and Favre gave him the "keep on going" wave. The guy goes 30 more yards down field and favre throws a touchdown to him.

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

I'm an Elway fan. He's done the most with the least in my opinion. My top 5

1. Elway
2. Montana
3. Favre (even though I hate the Packers)
4. Jim Kelly
5. Steve Young

I am a Bears fan so liking the Packers is illegal where I was raised.

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Elway is the only reason they won superbowl 32. I was little and can't remember much about the game but i do remember him taking the ball on that 3rd and 8. >:mad

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

also carson palmer was F****** UNSTOPABLE before his leg got KTFO


and these guys ALL SUCK BALLS and the media puts them over cuz theyt are from sports towns that can make big advertising dollars if the peopel think they got a good team...


rothesburger (WAS NEVER ANY GOOD AT ALL)
eli manning (complete joke)
grossman
vick
romo

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Palmer is still ok when half his starting line up isn't locked up in county :P

Roethelisberger only manages games. when he tries to take on the role of a legitimate big time qb he does
terrible and pittsburgh loses.

I wish my last name was manning was i could get a huge contract and be terrible at my job. Peyton is overrated too. Yeah he puts up numbers, but he's also had the same star receiver for 8 years. Give favre Antonio Freeman and Andre Rison for his whole career and watch ther numbers he'd put up. Once marvin retires peyton is done. They already started selling away his defense like they did to favre the offense is the next to go.

Grossman is crap but i hope the bears start him as long as possible so gb can sneak into the playoffs one last time while favres still around.

Vick has amazing potential but he just cant throw the ball consistently.

Romo is total crap and he better not even think of going after carrie because come on who would want to have kids with the last name romo? Thats a bully's dream to get a kid with a shot overated ex sports star dad and a last name that rhymes with homo.

A few other facts:

Leagues only 3 time mvp (consecutively at that. that will never fall unless lt has a few more great years)

First professional completion was to himself for -7 yards.

He has record a forced fumble

Needs (to break records)
7 tds
4 ints
137 attempts
2 wins
3861 yards

Currently owns records for:
Completions
Consecutive starts for qb
most consecutive playoff games with a td pass at 16 (2nd all time with consecutive games with a td pass behind unitas)
Has completed a pass to over 70 different receivers
and a bunch of other stuff

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Originally Posted by Wadeb_21

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Being a 9ERS fan me self it's quite simple.

1. Montana
2. The rest.......

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I'm not a 9ers fan and I think Montana was great but I think Steve Young was better than him. Montana had more people around him to make him better than Young did, in opionion anyway.

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cc.

i think you might be the only other person ive ever heard say that besides myself.

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Heres CC #217 for you bro. Yeah I have thought that for the longest time ever man, I'm glad someone esle agrees with me.

steve young is probably the only left handed (he was left handed right?) quarterback that could run AND throw the ball well.

Elway is the man. No one else compares to his ability to win games and not fold in crunch time. I can't give nearly as much credit to Montana or Young because they were on great teams. Elway was the heart of his team so many times and coming from behind to beat the Browns in the 4th quarter seals the deal.

The Drive"

The 1986-87 campaign was another stellar statistical year for John, but it will forever be remembered for a single post-season milestone on his journey from star quarterback to NFL legend – a 15-play, 98-yard offensive series in the AFC Championship game now known simply as, "The Drive."

Trailing by seven with less than six minutes left in regulation and starting at the Broncos two-yard line following a booming Cleveland Browns punt, John directed an awe-inspiring, nearly flawless series of downs that culminated in a five-yard touchdown pass to Mark Jackson.



That score tied the game with just 39 seconds remaining and sent it into overtime, where John conducted a 60-yard drive to set up the game-winning field goal by Rich Karlis. Final score: Broncos, 23 – Browns, 20. Despite a loss two weeks later to the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXI, the foundation had been laid for John’s reputation as the greatest comeback QB of all time. In recognition of his season’s achievements, John was voted into the Pro Bowl for the first time.

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

steve young is probably the only left handed (he was left handed right?) quarterback that could run AND throw the ball well.

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He was a lefty....I don't trust left handed quarterbacks (as a former offensive lineman...I dislike them they turn the offense around). Montana and Young are both very good but look at Joe he's just the best ever...4 Superbowls! But really you have to hand it to Bill Wlash and George Seifert for doing what they did with those teams.

Michael Vick is GARBAGE! Him and Marcus are worthless pieces of shit....think of it, they have been handed everything since high school and yet they keep fucking up!

"The Drive" happened because the Browns were in prevent defense, so the Broncos could nickle and dime them for 10-20 yards at a time. Elway was good, but I hate him still to this day.

No one has mentioned Cowboy Troy Aikman....a good solid QB helped by the likes of Smith, Irving, but more importantly 'Moose' Johnston and Jay Novaceck

....it's all a liberal media bias is what it is ;D

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

They said that brett favre is not in joe montanas league (i think favre is the best qb ever but if you wanna rank him 3rd behind elway and montana, i understand) but a few months ago they traied to compare brady to montana and some people said he was better. Ok lets look at the patriots final possesions in their three winning superbowls. The first two were fieldgoals which is like losing a boxing match by dominating the first 4 rounds, getting headbutted, losing the 5th and the fight gets called afterwards giving your opponent a techinical decision. The 3rd one, brady handed off to his running back 3 str8 times. Good strategy? yes but don't call him the most clutch qb in history when you wouldn't put it in his hands to try and convert a first down when they needed one. >:mad

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one name FAVRE!!! He has done it without the best offense or defense....The is only 1 HOF'er (Reggie White) on his team...Montana had many.....

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Elway is the man. No one else compares to his ability to win games and not fold in crunch time. I can't give nearly as much credit to Montana or Young because they were on great teams. Elway was the heart of his team so many times and coming from behind to beat the Browns in the 4th quarter seals the deal.

The Drive"

The 1986-87 campaign was another stellar statistical year for John, but it will forever be remembered for a single post-season milestone on his journey from star quarterback to NFL legend – a 15-play, 98-yard offensive series in the AFC Championship game now known simply as, "The Drive."

Trailing by seven with less than six minutes left in regulation and starting at the Broncos two-yard line following a booming Cleveland Browns punt, John directed an awe-inspiring, nearly flawless series of downs that culminated in a five-yard touchdown pass to Mark Jackson.



That score tied the game with just 39 seconds remaining and sent it into overtime, where John conducted a 60-yard drive to set up the game-winning field goal by Rich Karlis. Final score: Broncos, 23 – Browns, 20. Despite a loss two weeks later to the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXI, the foundation had been laid for John’s reputation as the greatest comeback QB of all time. In recognition of his season’s achievements, John was voted into the Pro Bowl for the first time.

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Elway was the most clutch qb in history. Unless you were ahead by 9 and there was only 1 second left, you were in trouble if he had the ball.

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

steve young is probably the only left handed (he was left handed right?) quarterback that could run AND throw the ball well.

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He was a lefty....I don't trust left handed quarterbacks (as a former offensive lineman...I dislike them they turn the offense around). Montana and Young are both very good but look at Joe he's just the best ever...4 Superbowls! But really you have to hand it to Bill Wlash and George Seifert for doing what they did with those teams.

Michael Vick is GARBAGE! Him and Marcus are worthless pieces of S***....think of it, they have been handed everything since high school and yet they keep F****** up!

"The Drive" happened because the Browns were in prevent defense, so the Broncos could nickle and dime them for 10-20 yards at a time. Elway was good, but I hate him still to this day.

No one has mentioned Cowboy Troy Aikman....a good solid QB helped by the likes of Smith, Irving, but more importantly 'Moose' Johnston and Jay Novaceck

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Montana was the best "big time qb" because he got the most shots to be there and capitalized on most of them. Lyle aikman is an ok quarterback but neil o'donnell should've been the cowboys mvp for superbowl 30 because he clearly threw the game.

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

They said that brett favre is not in joe montanas league (i think favre is the best qb ever but if you wanna rank him 3rd behind elway and montana, i understand) but a few months ago they traied to compare brady to montana and some people said he was better. Ok lets look at the patriots final possesions in their three winning superbowls. The first two were fieldgoals which is like losing a boxing match by dominating the first 4 rounds, getting headbutted, losing the 5th and the fight gets called afterwards giving your opponent a techinical decision. The 3rd one, brady handed off to his running back 3 str8 times. Good strategy? yes but don't call him the most clutch qb in history when you wouldn't put it in his hands to try and convert a first down when they needed one. >:mad

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one name FAVRE!!! He has done it without the best offense or defense....The is only 1 HOF'er (Reggie White) on his team...Montana had many.....

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You can check this out and i promise it will work out damn near all of the time. When they show a sportcenter montage clip of an offensive player over the pass ten years, if theres more than 5 clips i guarantee GUARANTEE gb is one of the defenses they show getting burned lol.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....it's all a liberal media bias is what it is ;D

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I was only kidding HOWEVER if you really think about it......it really may be

Tom Brady - NEW ENGLAND
Joe Montana - SAN FRANSISCO
Steve Young - SAN FRANSISCO

Brett Favre - Green Bay

......conspiracy???

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....it's all a liberal media bias is what it is ;D

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I was only kidding HOWEVER if you really think about it......it really may be

Tom Brady - NEW ENGLAND
Joe Montana - SAN FRANSISCO
Steve Young - SAN FRANSISCO

Brett Favre - Green Bay

......conspiracy???

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the new england thing after 9/11 is shady as fuck especially after you throw in the tuck rule (which they untucked out of their ass) but Montana had dorsett behind him jerry rice alongside him and ronny lott on the other side of the ball no way is that team not succeeding. If im not mistaken young had t.o. and the nfc wasn't that impressive back then either (superbowl 31 is the last legitimate nfc champion. The 37th? superbowl when the bucs beat the raiders was messed up because gruden knew exactly how gannon was gonna play and they still had audibles in their playbook that gruden designed. How's that same roster doing right now? exactly.

....Dorsett played for Dallas

Montana had Roger Craig behind him....Rice was a little young for Joe, Montana's main guy was Dwight Clarke

Montana had a Dorsett play for him at somepoint of his career tho? ok nevermind i know what it was i watched a nfl films presentation of that championship game and for some reason they kept saying dorsett while montana was on offense.

Dorsett also played for Denver...I don't think he ever played for San Fran