Just Watched "The Hurricane" again last night, I have a few questions???

Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

He was a good fighter but not great he beat emille grifith in 1 round and beat jimmy ellis an half decent heavyweight but he did'nt fight rubin at heavy he won 27 lost 12 and drew 1 as i say a few good wins but he were'nt great but the film is good

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He was a good fighter but not great he beat emille grifith in 1 round and beat jimmy ellis an half decent heavyweight but he did'nt fight rubin at heavy he won 27 lost 12 and drew 1 as i say a few good wins but he were'nt great but the film is good

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Thanks man I appreciate the reply. Yeah that movie is really good Denzell Did a really good job in it. It just got me to thinking after I watched it if he was really good and would he of been better if he didn't go to prison. I guess the movie made him out to be better than what he was. thanks again.

Blew me away that film





























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It was good movie about a good fighter. Emile Griffith was no pushover, even after the Parret fight.

By the way has any of you read his book?

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It was good movie about a good fighter. Emile Griffith was no pushover, even after the Parret fight.

By the way has any of you read his book?

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No I haven't read it, I remember hearing there was one out but still haven't checked it out yet. Have you read it... if so how is it?

Im sorry if this is very vague (as well as my spelling being very very bad) but if i remember right, there's a scene where he fights a white guy and 'suposedly' gets robbed.

Apparently, that was a big overstatement. Just cant remember where i heard it?

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Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

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I hate to break it to you but film is all bullshit none of it is true if you want to learn more i will send you link about true story because alot of people are fooled by that film i was too until i realized the truth.

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Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

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I hate to break it to you but film is all bullshit none of it is true if you want to learn more i will send you link about true story because alot of people are fooled by that film i was too until i realized the truth.

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Really is it BS? Yeah I would like to check that link out if you don't mind. Thanks man.

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Originally Posted by Wadeb_21

Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

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I hate to break it to you but film is all bullshit none of it is true if you want to learn more i will send you link about true story because alot of people are fooled by that film i was too until i realized the truth.

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I wouldn’t go as far as to say all that .. I seen something about the "Top Ten Myths on Ruben Carter" a while back, looked like Bullocks to me, the writers personal opinion backed up by nothing. looked to be written by some racist idiot not attuned to the discrimination of black folks at that period of time. if you were black in the south and within 5 miles of a crime scene you were fucked. make no mistake !

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Originally Posted by Wadeb_21

Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

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I hate to break it to you but film is all bullshit none of it is true if you want to learn more i will send you link about true story because alot of people are fooled by that film i was too until i realized the truth.

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I wouldn’t go as far as to say all that .. I seen something about the "Top Ten Myths on Ruben Carter" a while back, looked like Bullocks to me, the writers personal opinion backed up by nothing. looked to be written by some racist idiot not attuned to the discrimination of black folks at that period of time. if you were black in the south and within 5 miles of a crime scene you were fucked. make no mistake !

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Well Carter could of took a lie detector test and if he passed he could of got out of prison but he didn't take it amongst a load of other stuff imo he did do it im not certain but evidence they had it didn't look good for Carter.

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Like the topic says I watched that movie again last night. I forgot how good a movie that is. My question is Was Rubin Carter really as good as the movie made him out to be, or did they over do it a little to make it a better movie? Also if he was as good as the movie made him out would he of been an all time great if he never went to prison? I have never seen any of his fights. Just curious if anyone knows in here, thanks.

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I hate to break it to you but film is all bullshit none of it is true if you want to learn more i will send you link about true story because alot of people are fooled by that film i was too until i realized the truth.

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Really is it BS? Yeah I would like to check that link out if you don't mind. Thanks man.

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http://www.graphicwitness.com/carter/

CARTER'S LIFE" GRAPHICS:
-- Carter was NOT the No. 1 contender
-- Carter was NOT a "war hero"
-- Carter was NOT a child hero

"KILLERS' GETAWAY" GRAPHICS:
-- Getaway scene is misleading ... in Carter's favor
-- Movie "blinds" an eyewitness who saw it all
-- Movie clutters up star witness' clear view

"RACIAL ISSUES" GRAPHICS:
-- Racist pig detective never existed, filmmakers admit
-- Racism made bar a target for revenge
-- Racial profiling?? No ... Carter's car matched getaway car

"THE MOVIE DIDN'T TELL YOU..." GRAPHICS
-- 2 witnesses identified Carter's car as getaway car!
-- Survivor told friends Carter & Artis were the gunmen

"BOGUS ISSUE" GRAPHIC:
-- Phone record wasn't faked; time of call was well documented

"THEY JUST MADE IT UP" GRAPHIC:
-- Burglars "conspiring" to frame Carter were really 75 miles apart

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

CARTER'S LIFE" GRAPHICS:
-- Carter was NOT the No. 1 contender
-- Carter was NOT a "war hero"
-- Carter was NOT a child hero

"KILLERS' GETAWAY" GRAPHICS:
-- Getaway scene is misleading ... in Carter's favor
-- Movie "blinds" an eyewitness who saw it all
-- Movie clutters up star witness' clear view

"RACIAL ISSUES" GRAPHICS:
-- Racist pig detective never existed, filmmakers admit
-- Racism made bar a target for revenge
-- Racial profiling?? No ... Carter's car matched getaway car

"THE MOVIE DIDN'T TELL YOU..." GRAPHICS
-- 2 witnesses identified Carter's car as getaway car!
-- Survivor told friends Carter & Artis were the gunmen

"BOGUS ISSUE" GRAPHIC:
-- Phone record wasn't faked; time of call was well documented

"THEY JUST MADE IT UP" GRAPHIC:
-- Burglars "conspiring" to frame Carter were really 75 miles apart

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Nicely done...you can get a complete breakdown of this POS from

http://www.ez-entertainment.net/feat...caneCarter.htm

The movie inflated his boxing skills as much as his "humanity"...a pure propaganda piece and I believe if Denzel knew the truth he would not have taken the part...

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CARTER'S LIFE" GRAPHICS:
-- Carter was NOT the No. 1 contender
-- Carter was NOT a "war hero"
-- Carter was NOT a child hero

"KILLERS' GETAWAY" GRAPHICS:
-- Getaway scene is misleading ... in Carter's favor
-- Movie "blinds" an eyewitness who saw it all
-- Movie clutters up star witness' clear view

"RACIAL ISSUES" GRAPHICS:
-- Racist pig detective never existed, filmmakers admit
-- Racism made bar a target for revenge
-- Racial profiling?? No ... Carter's car matched getaway car

"THE MOVIE DIDN'T TELL YOU..." GRAPHICS
-- 2 witnesses identified Carter's car as getaway car!
-- Survivor told friends Carter & Artis were the gunmen

"BOGUS ISSUE" GRAPHIC:
-- Phone record wasn't faked; time of call was well documented

"THEY JUST MADE IT UP" GRAPHIC:
-- Burglars "conspiring" to frame Carter were really 75 miles apart

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Nicely done...you can get a complete breakdown of this POS from

http://www.ez-entertainment.net/feat...caneCarter.htm

The movie inflated his boxing skills as much as his "humanity"...a pure propaganda piece and I believe if Denzel knew the truth he would not have taken the part...

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Yea thanks i think its about time people on this forum know the truth because i was fooled aswell until i read up on it and was shocked how bad they lied in the film it was a disgrace imo.

so we got 2 sides of the story, which one do u believe, those links showed no physical evedence.
and carter aparantly took a lie detector test and failed but those machines are inacurate and to this day are not amisable in a court of law.
and they say carter was not the #1 contender but he did fight joey giardello for the middle wieght title and lost dicision over racist pig judging and in th 90's the WBA and WBC relised this and awarded him his rightfull championship belt.
i dont believe this bull shit for a minute

Well thats your opinion fair enough but i believe he done it.

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Well thats your opinion fair enough but i believe he done it.

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but why would he shoot up a bar and then deny it for like 20 years and go to great lenghs to make up a fairytale biography.........and he must have appealed the case at least 5 times! why would a guilty man go to such exuasting efforts? fair enough you believe he did it but why? cause you read a few storys on the net?

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Yea thanks i think its about time people on this forum know the truth because i was fooled aswell until i read up on it and was shocked how bad they lied in the film it was a disgrace imo.

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I think everyone is over-analyzing..... Its a movie, its not meant to be an exact history of ruben carter. Its meant to be entertaining. I thought it was an awesome film with terrific acting.

As to whether ruben carter actually killed them people, no one will ever really know but he is free now and having been in prison for 20 years I reckon he can have his freedom

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

CARTER'S LIFE" GRAPHICS:
-- Carter was NOT the No. 1 contender
-- Carter was NOT a "war hero"
-- Carter was NOT a child hero

"KILLERS' GETAWAY" GRAPHICS:
-- Getaway scene is misleading ... in Carter's favor
-- Movie "blinds" an eyewitness who saw it all
-- Movie clutters up star witness' clear view

"RACIAL ISSUES" GRAPHICS:
-- Racist pig detective never existed, filmmakers admit
-- Racism made bar a target for revenge
-- Racial profiling?? No ... Carter's car matched getaway car

"THE MOVIE DIDN'T TELL YOU..." GRAPHICS
-- 2 witnesses identified Carter's car as getaway car!
-- Survivor told friends Carter & Artis were the gunmen

"BOGUS ISSUE" GRAPHIC:
-- Phone record wasn't faked; time of call was well documented

"THEY JUST MADE IT UP" GRAPHIC:
-- Burglars "conspiring" to frame Carter were really 75 miles apart

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Sorry Ice
Im from that part of the country
Patterson New Jersey?
A black man got set up for a crime he didnt commit?
Excuse me whilst I dont die of shock here
You cant get from Trenton to Jersey City if your a black man driving a nice car today
At some point youll get yanked
Jersey Staties are some of the most corrupt in the country and have been sighted repeatedly for it
They tried to plant a roach in a buddies car
Turned out he was so badly asthmatic that he couldnt be in a room with someone who was smoking anything
Let alone smoking it himself
Needless to say,it wasnt pursued

The part of the movie where Carter loses to Giardello was false. Another attempt by Hollywood to make a race ussue out of something that wasn't an issue at all. Even Carter admitted that he lost that fight. Giardello sued the film's producer and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. With regard to Carter being involved in that triple murder; I'm not sure what happened. Carter himself said he was no angel, but he didn't commit that particular crime. I believe him.

all i know is DENZEL SHOULD have about 4 OSCARS right NOW who is with me on this one????????

hollaaaaaaaaaar

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Well thats your opinion fair enough but i believe he done it.

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but why would he shoot up a bar and then deny it for like 20 years and go to great lenghs to make up a fairytale biography.........and he must have appealed the case at least 5 times! why would a guilty man go to such exuasting efforts? fair enough you believe he did it but why? cause you read a few storys on the net?

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Why wouldnt any man go to any legnths to get out of prison? After all the majority of all men in prison are innocent ;)