Fighters chasing $ instead of the best.
This has been a real thorn in my side for a while.The guys who would rather fight the fighter who offers more money than the guy who would make the best fight or deserves the fight! >:mad
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
This has been a real thorn in my side for a while.The guys who would rather fight the fighter who offers more money than the guy who would make the best fight or deserves the fight! >:mad
sad to say man, all these fighters who chase the money were hungry before too. but then they tasted a lil green now they're too good to be hurt or to be pitted against a tough competition. thats the reason why i only spend my own money to buy ppv events of lower weight classes than spending 50 bucks watching guys fighting as if they are not there to make us fans happy. in reality, none of these fighters made it big if it wasnt for us buying their fights.. sad sad sad
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
This has been a real thorn in my side for a while.The guys who would rather fight the fighter who offers more money than the guy who would make the best fight or deserves the fight! >:mad
sad to say man, all these fighters who chase the money were hungry before too. but then they tasted a lil green now they're too good to be hurt or to be pitted against a tough competition. thats the reason why i only spend my own money to buy ppv events of lower weight classes than spending 50 bucks watching guys fighting as if they are not there to make us fans happy. in reality, none of these fighters made it big if it wasnt for us buying their fights.. sad sad sad
Yea that is why I didn't even for 1 minute think of ordering the De La Hoys VS Mayweather fight.Most of the good "fights", are the undercard fights anyhow.Some of the PPV lately have been real snorefests.
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Originally Posted by Saladfingers
I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
This has been a real thorn in my side for a while.The guys who would rather fight the fighter who offers more money than the guy who would make the best fight or deserves the fight! >:mad
I agree that it's frustrating but you can't really blame the fighters. You can't name me more than 5 boxers who have a steady flow of income after they retire. 99% of these guys aren't trained to do anything else after boxing so you have to make as much as you can.
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Originally Posted by Saladfingers
I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
i know what you're saying man.. but come on.. just like how marquez declined the rematch against pacman coz he thought he was getting less money and he ended up fighting in indonesia for $30k and got cheated.. come on man.. how is this attitude gonna make boxing more marketable to the casual fans??? how do we get more people to watch boxing?
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
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BOTTOM LINE THIS IS A JOB. FAMILY FIRST YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY SO THEREFORE YOU TAKE THE JOB WITH THE MOST MONEY JUST LIKE ANY PERSON DOES IN A NORMAL JOB. ITS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SPORT WHEN A PERSON LEAVES A TEAM FOR ANOTHER TEAM OFFERING THEM MORE MONEY MAN ITS BUISNESS REALIZE THAT AND GET OFF THESE FIGHTERS BACK AND LET THEM TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILY.
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
Good point.
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
You are telling me because I believe what Wladimir says it makes my statements less credible!Who the hell are you!I thought I might get an intelligent response from most posters and I did but you went and ruined it. >:mad
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
Good point.
Who is he fighting next?Brewster the guy who beat him!He is doing it to redeem himself and prove it to the fans!Not the money! :banghead:
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
You are telling me because I believe what Wladimir says it makes my statements less credible!Who the hell are you!I thought I might get an intelligent response from most posters and I did but you went and ruined it. >:mad
lol, you didn't even respond... Unless my browser is broken you just quoted my response but didn't add anything ??? ::**
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
You are telling me because I believe what Wladimir says it makes my statements less credible!Who the hell are you!I thought I might get an intelligent response from most posters and I did but you went and ruined it. >:mad
lol, you didn't even respond... Unless my browser is broken you just quoted my response but didn't add anything ??? ::**
Your browser must be broken. ;D
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Originally Posted by Saladfingers
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
Good point.
Who is he fighting next?Brewster the guy who beat him!He is doing it to redeem himself and prove it to the fans!Not the money! :banghead:
Brewster hasn't fought in a year and a half, when his last fight was a loss in which his retina was detached.... Excuse me if I don't find it some incredible act of courage for Wlad to fight him. Obviously in Wlads defence there is noone great to fight, but still Brewster is not the best guy out there. Sure he beat Wlad once, but Klit avenging that at this point in time just doesn't do much for me...
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what kind of name is saladfingers? am i missing some inside joke there?
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
Money may not be a factor for Wlad...but he hasn't been fighting the best...he's actually taken some easy beats of late. Peter, Brock, & Byrd have been the best that he's fought & theyv'e all proven to be less than stellar. Brock was unproven and Byrd's last 4 fights had been controversial wins...I will give him Sam Peter though.
Definently a worthy opponent on the way up.
Also...Oscar vs Floyd was no snoozefest. Trust me on that one. I was there & it was a fantastic fight.
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Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
Money may not be a factor for Wlad...but he hasn't been fighting the best...he's actually taken some easy beats of late. Peter, Brock, & Byrd have been the best that he's fought & theyv'e all proven to be less than stellar. Brock was unproven and Byrd's last 4 fights had been controversial wins...I will give him Sam Peter though.
Definently a worthy opponent on the way up.
Also...Oscar vs Floyd was no snoozefest. Trust me on that one. I was there & it was a fantastic fight.
i just wanna see wlad unify and yes pbf vs oscar was no snoozefest even tho i was sure it was gonna be
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I guess so... But it's not as if there are even fighters out there who wouldn't do the same unless they felt the time/scenario wasn't right... If you can make more money to take less of a challenge, it will happen that way.. And at the end of the day it comes down to the fans, if there are enough people who are educated about the fight game, then the best challenger should be the best payday for a fighter. But if not, then you can't fault the fighter.
Well I guess I have been listening to Wladimir Klitschko to much then because all he want's is to fight the best out there and prove it to himself he is the best, he has never mentioned the money factor, he want's to fight first for himself then the fans.
The fact that you belive him in such statements just makes you all the less credible.. Who has W. Klit fought recently... Was Ray Austin a big challenge to him?? Chris Byrd??? Fighters will take big challenges when they absolutely need to to revive their reputation/careers, or when that fighter also brings in the highest payday.. Otherwise, they are looking for the most money, period. Put yourself in the mindstate of a pro fighter for one second. You'd take a tougher challenge for less money?!?!? WHY? More money means more fans of the sport would pay, or tune in to watch you fight a certain guy. Whether that fighter happens to be the toughest challenge is not the biggest issue for a boxer. If you can't realize this maybe your not quite as sharp as I imagined.
Good point.
Who is he fighting next?Brewster the guy who beat him!He is doing it to redeem himself and prove it to the fans!Not the money! :banghead:
Brewster hasn't fought in a year and a half, when his last fight was a loss in which his retina was detached.... Excuse me if I don't find it some incredible act of courage for Wlad to fight him. Obviously in Wlads defence there is noone great to fight, but still Brewster is not the best guy out there. Sure he beat Wlad once, but Klit avenging that at this point in time just doesn't do much for me...
Brewster faced Lyakhovich April 1st last year,that isn't a year and a half at least where I come from.Tell me then oh master of boxing knowledge, who should Wladimir be fighting then?Who is the best guy Wladimir hasn't faced?
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What is annoying to me is that they mention the money. I think it is really cheesy. Part of the reason PBF pisses me off is he says stupid crap about money everytime he talks. If a fighter has class they won't constantly mention the money. We all know they are making big money, but it's freaking tacky to constantly talk about it.
Given that most of these guys make more in one fight than most of their fans will make in their lifetimes, they could act humble and not talk about it so much. It's an obvious motivation, and I don't blame them but get some freakin manners and class.
And for the record. Taylor made it look like he doesn't want to fight Pavlik.
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If i had billions of dollars, i would make sure every fighter i liked, could make a great living fighting,even if they never became really famous. i would triple the amount the promoter gives them.
