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So he got his ass beaten,what now? I think he can still rematch Abraham but if I were him,I'd fight some lower leel fighters,get my confidence back up. He has too many things to work and as was showin in the fight,hes clueless when his power is not effective. Work on developing a more all around game and he can still be a major force imo. What do you guys think?
He will never be world champion i don't think i wasn't sold on Green fight but i think Miranda needs to get his confidence back by knocking out few no hopers but i honestly don't think he will be world champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Its not just about koing some no hopers and hoping he'll get another crack,he could get beaten up again. He needs to make improvements,adjustments. Develop a jab,shorten the punches and dam work on the defence? I really like Edison,I want him to do well and shall continue to cheer for him for sure,but he needs to improve.
His limitations were obvious against Pavlik. He landed some great shots and Pavlik shook it off and just kept coming forwards. Miranda had no plan b.
He can definitely still be a player, but needs to take a few low key fights and actually work on those skills. If he can adapt then he will be back at the top. Thats a big IF though...
think of defense
and just clear mind & relax
:coolclick: Very well stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by headson
Fight Lacey
i agree with El Gammo, no one will ever see Miranda as a world champion, I wll be shocked as all get out if that happens, El Gammo seems to have been seeing the same fight I saw.
I was there live, ringside, so I could see that Miranda was just plain beating, plus when you get knocked out once, thats one thing, but Miranda was knocked out 3 times before the referee stopped the fight.
I think its a bit early to write Miranda off. Pavlik just would not be denied last night and performed brilliantly. Miranda has beaten some very good fighters and went very close to beating Abraham, he can come again.
I am a big middle weight fan. The best class for that great combo of speed and power. I feel that Edison Miranda probably is still a top 4 or 5 middle weight period. I think he can give anyone problems including Taylor. Hell he can probably beat. This is not the end of the road for him. I hope he becomes a champ some day. Taylor should not get an apology from him at all. He has been ducking Pavlik and Miranda and he will continue to do so.
All miranda has to do is learn to roll with the punches a little better and stop dropping his hands. He dose need to be a better counter puncher and he should double up his hook and his right hand a little more.He has the body and the will to do so. He just needs to polish his tools a little more and the benifits should roll in.
Miranda the "kittycat" is a 1-dimensional fighter.
He got schooled by a master technician.
Miranda needs to go back fighting bums.
He needs to work on a jab, he has long ass arms , I think he had the reach on Pavlik. The defense is not there either.
That guy has no defense. He might as well retire because he will never be a legitimate champion like Taylor or Calzaghe. Talk about one-dimensional, I knew the dude was sloppy and had some work to do, but damn...
Lennox Lewis said "Miranda can't fight backward", and I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Yes, he had the reach advantage but he didn't utilized some strong snapping jabs.
What I've noticed most from Miranda last night is he had stamina problem.
Although by no means am I saying that Miranda has the tools to be a world champion, it kinda irks me how it's now all about all the things Miranda isn't. How about the other guy that was standing across the ring? Think he may have had something to do with it, too?
Yes he did . Pavlik arm legth was 24.5 and Miranda is 26Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
miranda had many problems last night. stamina was the main one alsoi think because he didn't intimidate pavlik and pavlik was trading with him that put his confidence down. pavlik was real good. can take a real good shot and also has a good shot himself. great fight.
next for miranda is a a confidence builder fight. someone easy just to get confidence back up.
Looks like he believes in his punching power too much, reminds me of Sam Peter but not humble. I don't know what will happen to him :-\
I dont think he will be the same and his opponents will not be as inimidated by him anymore. Things moved too fast for him and his lack of skills was overlooked because he is tough and can punch. In boxing that will only get you so far.
Well the hospital was next for him and then probably a therapist to council his poor soul for taking a beating after talking so much smack..........Miranda was NOT overrated, It's just Pavlik is that good, Anywho's...Miranda will be champ again.,He is a great fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
:coolclick: I'm actually a Pavlik fan now, classy and very humble demeanor. Pavlik ROCKS!!! :rocks:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74