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im really getting tired of him even though i always use him on fn3
but he shouls have 25 -3
losing to the to b-hop winky and now spinks
does this fight means that spinks is back
still i had 10 $ on taylor sloppy ass
No doubt in my mind jermain won that fight..
Its disapointing when taylor gets so many tough breaks and his fights are not very impressive for the most part.. but i still respect him..
Im going to find it hard to respect him if the pavlik fight doesnt come off though..
His post fight interview he states he will take the biggest money fight.. But all fights are big money and the pavlik fight can do more for him and make Lots more money for him in future if he takes it..
Its like an investment to secure his future..
Jermain said it right in the interview..
You cant win a title that way, You cant beat the champ by running..
People have to remember.. He may have made jermain look bad all night..But what was he doing..
He should have pressed the issue and taken the title away for taylor..
He didnt emphasize his performance enough atall..
You cant just win, He wasnt the champ ..He should have fought the right fight
I was disapointed in both guys.. Jermain for not wanting to fight enough..
And Spinks for running.. I always knew he was a great boxer, has great speed,counter punching..
He has always boxed.. But he still fought when he was in with the likes of mayorga and judah..
Last night he didnt fight and box..He ran and boxed
I wanted Taylor to win but in reality Spinks schooled him . He did something Hopkins and Winky couldnt .
Props to Cory
I had Spinks just edging it and ive voted ;)
Winky Wright beat Jermain Taylor. Everyone knows that. Winky Wright should be the champ. But it doesn't matter. Taylor is rapidly losing respect with the real boxing world IN ADDITION to completely alienating the casual boxing fan.
Jermain Taylor is an idiot. You can beat a champion by running. Just like Mayweather beat Baldomir. I don't understand where he comes up with this stuff. Must make him feel better after the biggest suckfest since Liakhovich/Briggs.
Voted Spinks ;D
Disagree alot had Taylor winning it was very close fight but in reality im sick of Taylors close decisions like i said in the another thread he is lucky he isn't 0-4 i just wish Taylor would beat someone bit more convincing i gave him break against Hopkins and Winky because they are one of the best of modern era but fact of the matter is most people and most of boxing world were saying Taylor would beat Spinks bad and really the bigger and stronger man should of won alot more convincing i give him no credit getting gift against Spinks its just getting bad to watch with all these dull and controversial decisions Taylor keeps getting into.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I thought Taylor deserved the win..but he was by no means impressive. I really,really wanted Spinks to beat him but in close rounds the champ got the nod from me. To win a title you must beat the champs but Cory just made JT look crap. Winky should be champ anyway, Taylor also lost his first fight to Hopkins but i really cant be bothered talking about that. Spinks just ran all night. I am not a Kelly Pavlik fan but Spinks and Ouma made Taylor look disgraceful, Hopkins and Wright beat Taylor, Miranda was K.O'd by Pavlik and Abraham does not look to amazing. It looks as though Pavlik is the champion-elect.
I was impressed with spinks but I gave the fight begrudgingly to taylor 7 rounds to 5
Spinks lost. It was torture to watch that fight .
I don't necessarily agree with JT's perception that the challenger has to take away the title from the champ ergo do more. If Spinks is a boxer,he's not going to go after JT is he?
It's also up the champion to defend the title,not just play it safe and hope he wins or hope that judges see the challnger is "not doing enough".
These are perceptions in boxing which I don't know how they started but are not always necessarily true. JT can moan Spinks didn't fight like a challenger,but I disagree, he didn't fight like a champion himself.
I agree with you here aswel . You know your boxing icecold ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Taylor deserved the fight with Winky cuz he was forced to fight and he tried harder . Here though I think Spinks got the better of it . He deserves another shot somewhere down the line cuz I think he as robbed .
Taylor is spineless 8)
Thanks mate cc and Spinks definetly deserves 2nd fight even though its not fan friendly still would sort out the controversy but i think Taylor should fight Pavlik first though or maybe Spinks and Miranda can fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Anybody interested in a grudge match w/spinks and judah he if he beats cotto?
I put it this way.......
Taylor did NOT beat Spinks...and Spinks did NOT beat Taylor.....
Jermain did justy enough to keep his title and Spinks did just under enough to not claim it...
That was a classic you have to BEAT the champion fight.....
If they were fighting for Corey's 154lb title instaed of Taylor's 160 Corey would have gotten the nod....
you have to beat the champion to take the belt.....Emmanuel Steward was not happy with Taylor's performance last night and rightfully so
taylor, after the fight got his talk going but he never got going in the fight. he didnt do much to deserve the win
CC, DaxxKhan. Took the words right out of my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
daxxkahn you are as Larry Merchant would say, "crunk."
I had Taylor winning 7-5. I had Spinks winning by a couple early but Taylor closing the gap and winning most of the late rounds. It was nice to see Manny yelling at Taylor to fight in the final rounds. Too bad he has stopped listening.
Everyone talks about how horrible it is when one guy moves alot and is percieved as running, the answer isn't smaller rings or smaller gloves but better cutting off of the ring and pressure by the fighter that "wants to make the fight." If you can't control the boxer just watch some good Jeff Fenech fights on how to cut off the ring and apply pressure, but don't bitch because you are lazy and the other guy doesn't want to fall into your game plan or lack of one.
:coolclick: Very well said. Totally agree 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Unfortunatly throwing quick flurries that arent landing,and then legging it,isnt going to win you the title
Though I agree that fight was like watching paint peel,I have to begrudgingly give it to Taylor
:D ;D ;D Cc!Quote:
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
CC back at ya...
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CC....I think lol....Still was not too sure about Larry's definition he sounded like an old man trying to keep up with the times lol :lhdevil: :pimp2:
Is there some way to have them both lose..that fight was garbage..Taylor was scared of Spinks...
I thought Spinks won that fight. Poor a bout as it was. The styles completely clashed, and Taylor can't seem to fight southpaws.
No one has mentioned the reactions at the end of the fight. Steward walked out of the corner in disgust 15 secs before the final round and after the final bell Spinks corner were extactic because they'd pulled off their gameplan and Taylor looked like a beaten man. He even prayed in the corner hoping for a helping hand from up above.
Also, I can't belive one judge had Cory winning by 6 points, and another had Taylor by 6. That seemd a bit ludicrous to me. The rounds were too close!
I'm gutted for Spinks, Taylor's post fight interview was utter crap. Why would Spink's trade with Taylor when he's a blown up Welterweight. He boxed the right fight. It was up to Taylor too use his size and walk Spinks down. He seemed scared to take a punch of a guy whose not exactly a puncher at Welter never mind Middleweight.
Finally, I've nothing but admiration for a guy like Spinks, at least he's prepared to take risky fights in his career. He's got ambition whereas Taylor is just staying in boxing to boost his bank account. Hopefully Spinks will continue to rule at Light-Middle!
The best bit was the Spinks ring walk .
He fought a good fight but he lost. Taylor is a guy who fights to the level of the guys he fights. If the guy is good he will show his talent. I think Pavlik will make things easy for Taylor to shine. Effective aggressiveness is how you win moving forward, and with boxing you have to land effective counters and control the action and not get hit. Cory did not do that. Cory fought a busy fight and was quicker with shorter punches but he did not land a solid punch. How can you win a fight like that?Quote:
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It was teh same way Floyd beat Oscar .Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
Spinks stuck to his gameplan and fought his fight .Taylor didnt . You could see at the end the look on both fighters faces , they knew the score and so did Manny Stewart
it funny. before the fight i was the main one saying Spinks would win and upset the world. now i the main one saying taylor won.
you know what I'm just so happy with this fight...I just saw one thing one big thing
CALZAGHE IS GOING TO MASSACRE TAYLOR :-)
go one and sadclick me :-)
i don't know about massacre but it does give people people more ammo to pick JC
Taylor did NOT beat Spinks...and Spinks did NOT beat Taylor..... Daxx
I have to agree with you, Mr. Kahn.
That was a Mexican standoff if I've ever seen one. Spinks did what everone expected him to do and Taylor embarrassed himself.
Who cares if you look bad, Jermaine?! Just go apey on his ass and end the fight!!!!!
I say the fight should have ended in a "no contest"
But in all fairness to Cory, the 117 -110 score was not all wrong. He made Taylor turn, follow and freeze for 11 rounds. Taylor was the definition of inept. While Cory did not do much in terms of offense, his game plan worked better than Taylors and looked more composed and relaxed thoughout the fight. He was in complete control while Taylor was trying to find himself. I have to give the edge to Cory in this one atleast 7 rounds to 5.
JT no doubt
Taylor won , I cant believe half the people here are crazy! :o ;D
Didn't Mayweather beat the champ by running two weeks ago? Taylor should realise you can't win a fight when you don't throw fucking punches. The guy was shocking. Spinks didn't do much, but at least he threw punches!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito_BHB