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Boxing movies i think should be made
i think roy should do a boxing movie on himself starting from his childhood( father expirince, olympic disapointment all the way to now), hopkins after he really retires shold def make a movie i think itd b inspiring, and TYSON i think should make a movie would be most inresting movie out of all boxing movies amean his life is something no movie writer can even think up so itd be fun and would make him alot of money if he plays himself cuz 20 years from now i dont want to see a comedian playing tyson (remember ali)
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There has already been a Mike Tyson movie.
Anywho, I think they should make a film about a struggling mediocre pug (perhaps from somewhere like Philly or somewhere - they could broadly model him on a real life boxer like Chuck Wepner or Marciano or someone). Anyway, the story could be that the world champion, and they should model this guy on a prime Ali without the politics or religion - needs to do an exhibition to commemorate an anniversary or soemthing.
So, they pick this guy, and the film is really about him rather than the fact he is a boxer, and he becomes an icon for the 'little guy', the poor people and the huddled masses by actually making a decent fight agaisnt the Champ.
What do you think?
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CC X, that's a fantastic idea!!!
This movie has potential, I can almost see the sequals already. The guy you're talking about should be able to fight the most rediculous 2 dimensional bad guys out there to show everyone what it means to be a great guy that never gives up. We can add dimension to this charactor by giving him big muscles, making him stutter, illiterate and beat on meat until his hands are drenched in blood.
It does need some drama, so everyone that is close to him has to die a TRAMATIC Death! --all of course to spur him on to rise to moment. Eventually we can make him even more stupid because of all accumulated punishment, and one day after years of being retired and body building he'll want to come back into the ring once more to rise to the moment.
I love it, who do you think should be the lead? Robert DeNiro, Steven Segal, Chris Farley?
This could turn out to be an epic to inspire generations to come. :)
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Yeah - I think we are onto something there. cc back.
In an effort to make the dumb public think that if you are really thick and inarticulate, as long as you have big muscles and no finesse, as long as you can just take punishment in the ring like Homer Simpson, you will always win. We could then use this to inform our foreign policy, perhaps.
One sequel could be a thinly-disguised morality story about being too big for your boots and forgetting your roots and where you come from. The guy might, for example, find out that he had been fed a diet of stiffs after he won the world title, then when he finds out he orders his manager to get the most dangerous guy out there. In fact, rather than bother writing a story, we should just copy what happened between Patterson and Liston. Then, in a transparent attempt to get black people to watch this tripe, we could get the hero to hook up with the black guys who trained his predeccessor as world champion.
Another sequel could then be full of meaningless shit and end up with a fight against the amateur world champion. We could get round the problem that he would have never fought beyond three rounds and amateur boxing is under different scoring and rules by making the opponent huge and scary. In fact we can insult that entire country by making him part of an institutionalised national drugs cheating scandal. Perhaps he could be the Champion of BALCO.
The final sequel could be that we could hark back to a war fought in the 1960's and get our hero to rescue prisoners with a bow and arrow, while being betrayed by the politicians. The story about a noble and brave army being stabbed in the back by mealy mouthed politicians was one peddled by both the Nazis in WW2 and the Soviets in WW1. I am sure none of us western people would swallow that, so perhaps we could franchise this idea to Bollywood. They may be interested in making an escapist film about the Kashmiri war of separation.
In a cliffhanger, we could then bring our hero back after about ten years. We would find him living in a swamp, happily married and being friendly with a talking donkey. After years in the widerness, he is ignitied by a new found passion that would invigorate him and make him feel young enough to take on the new generation of fighters out there. maybe we could just forget writing a new story and just be Al Gore?
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Charlie Burley movie would be great and it would finally get him some exposure
Andrew Golota
Jack Johnson
All would be great movies.
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;D ;D I wouldn't change a thing here, this is the theme we need to teach to future generations how to deal with their problems. We'll tell them that it's okay to be a punching bag as long as you have a bulging heart in the inside. I'll call Everlast on the the phone and see if I we get their name embroidered onto our hero's head to reinforce this idea.
We'll need some comic relief early on in the movie so that our viewers will be able to stomach the tragedies to come. Here's a thought on that just occurred to me! We should use a professional wrestler that fights under the alias of a rejected porno flick to show us the charitable side of our charactor. And speaking of wrestling this reminds me of the time that Muhammad Ali fought a professional Japanese wrestler Antonio Anoki. Upon seeing this connection should adhere to are more educated boxing audience. We be sure to include lots of groping and and body slams to show everyone that our guy can do more that just box skillfully. It's always a good idea to make a real life connection because thats the best way to show truth when everything else is a pack of lies.
So many possibilities with this one, thinking about it I can understand that it doesn't need to have anything to do with boxing at all, we can make this a patriotic piece by having him fight all our political enemies, kind of like a Captain America except with boxing gloves. What do you think of that? We can also repeat the that constant theme that it just matters of what you have in the inside, and that we can all make a difference and be friends. In the fight we can have him like the Grinch that stole Christmas, everytime he gets hit with a 10,000,000 psi punch he just loves him more, and his heart grows 3 pants sizes and shows us what it is to care for one another. This can be used as good diplomacy, whoever we depict as the enemy in our movies we can show them what love is all about.
It's a great idea, and after the big fight with our political rivals our hero should encounter new obstacles close to home, such as Bankruptcy... Leaking Brain Syndrome... Parental Neglect... Cancer... You know X, the list goes on and on, later we should market this to politicians as new outlet to talk about global warming, being a punching bag for other countries. Al Gore world be proud...
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a Tyson movie would be incredible
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A Roberto Duran film would me massive. 8)
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I like that, Chris. Especially the fact that we can make up our differences with our enemies by being friends .......... after battering them to a bloody pulp first.
It would be an interesting cinematic theme to have the clear message that it only matters what you have on the inside, yet have this encapsulated by a thick inarticulate musclebound beast that can only express that love and goodness by beating the living shit out of everyone he comes across. A bit like the Hulk really.
I have been thinking about who could play the main characters - Tony Blair is a shoo-in for the talking donkey. What about Peter Kay for the hero ?
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http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...21281748.shtml
Mike Tyson 'Humbled' By Bio Movie
By Staff
May 20, 2007
Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson is "humbled" Hollywood producers are making a movie based on his life.
The boxer - who became the youngest heavyweight champion when he won the title aged 20 in 1986 - has contributed more than 30 hours of interviews for the project.
Tyson says, "I will, to the best of my abilities, give a truthful account of myself."
The film, titled "Tyson", will be directed by James Toback, who has known the fighter since 1985.
Toback says, "The point is not to polish his image or make a cinematic apology, but rather to get a first-hand look at a very complex and epic story.
"He was honest about all the things that have highlighted his life, from the bitter divorce, the ear-biting, prison, to his becoming a sex addict. He is self-aware, smart and a totally fractured personality, and he made himself completely vulnerable."
Toback adds the film, due out later this year (07), would not "gloss over" incidents such as Tyson's rape conviction or the ear-biting of rival Evander Holyfield in 1997.
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Originally Posted by X
It would be an interesting cinematic theme to have the clear message that it only matters what you have on the inside, yet have this encapsulated by a thick inarticulate musclebound beast that can only express that love and goodness by beating the living S*** out of everyone he comes across. A bit like the Hulk really.
This reminds me of the story about Frankenstien, a big super strong monster is just looking for some love, and when he doesn't get it he literally beats them to death. Except in our pugulistic movie our guy gets to beat everyone to a pulp and gets away with all the love. Maybe this has something to do with his words of wisdom, or captivating big muscles (God Look at the size of those veins!)
Maybe our big strong russian vilain came from the same background as the Frankenstein, maybe he showed up on America's doorstep saying "I love America!" only to have love kicked into his face and rejected, swearing to break everyone that hasn't loved him, only to be broken down by the love that he has lost touch with. And as for punishment our american born hero steals big russian monster's wife, and marries her in real life.
I'm from the US so I haven't heard of Peter Kay, but I think that Blair would make a nice Donkey, it shows strong symbolism and many people will be able to relate to the complaining over demanding donkey that is ever present in our lives.
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"How to be a giant douchebag" starring Don King, Zab Judah, and Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Johnny Tapia's "Mi Vida Loca" My Crazy Life
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A George Foreman biopic would be great: poverty, being teased for not knowing who his father was, the US government helped him get out of the streets, began boxing and after only a year won a gold medal, had a horrible attitude then was changed into a very likeable guy......lots of stuff to do a movie about.
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They should make a movie about "Chico".
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I like the Goerge Foreman one, it'd make a good story. I'd also like to see movies about Julio C. Chavez, Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard.
There's been a movie made about Marciano, but it's shitty, I'd like to see a good one made.
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There is a movie coming out which may be good though it's not a biography, it's got a good storyline so far
RESURECTING THE CHAMP
Up-and-coming sports reporter (Josh Hartnett) rescues a homeless man ("Champ", Samuel L. Jackson) only to discover that he is, in fact, a boxing legend believed to have passed away. What begins as an opportunity to resurrect Champ's story and escape the shadow of his father's success becomes a personal journey as the ambitious reporter reexamines his own life and his relationship with his family.
www.imdb.com
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....I would also LOVE to see a boxing movie about "The Boston Strongboy" John L. Sullivan.
Bareknuckle fights, heavy drinking, braggadocio, the 1st world renowned HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION....and a tough SOB
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Good one, lots of drama to go off of, I'd like to see Corbett apart of it. Sullivan says he lick every son-of-a in the house, and COrbet stands up and says No you can't. Lot's of stuff to go by.
Jack Dempsey would be another neat one, particulary focussing on his early life and his fighting career.
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Originally Posted by X
There has already been a Mike Tyson movie.
Anywho, I think they should make a film about a struggling mediocre pug (perhaps from somewhere like Philly or somewhere - they could broadly model him on a real life boxer like Chuck Wepner or Marciano or someone). Anyway, the story could be that the world champion, and they should model this guy on a prime Ali without the politics or religion - needs to do an exhibition to commemorate an anniversary or soemthing.
So, they pick this guy, and the film is really about him rather than the fact he is a boxer, and he becomes an icon for the 'little guy', the poor people and the huddled masses by actually making a decent fight agaisnt the Champ.
What do you think?
classic... CC ;D
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A Stanley Ketchel movie would be awesome. The very definition of living fast and dying young. Not to mention the chewing on cocoa leaves with Jack London and the psycho Wyatt Earp wanna be angle. You couldn't get much better then that.
Watched Rocky last night. Awesome movie 8)
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a good rocky marciano movie should b made -not like that low budget crap that already came out--the movie could begin with his pub fight in austria when he was in the army and end with the second charles fight
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a ggod name 4 the title---undefeated!
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As much as I like Roy, I don't think his life translates well into a movie. If you look at the guys who have had movies made about them - Ali, Rocky Graziano, Jake Lamotta, Tyson - they've all had incredible lives outside the ring as well. Graziano and Lamotta were street thugs who ran into trouble pretty much their whole lives, Tyson was just insane.
Roy had an amazing career, but besides being screwed out of a gold medal and his fallout with his father, not a lot of amazing stuff has happened to him in his life (or at least none that has been made public knowledge). I mean who wants to watch a movie about a guy who was WAY too good and was never really challenged for the first 15 years of his career?
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The Mike Tyson movie was crap lets have Rocky 7 from beyond the grave
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Originally Posted by amat
A Stanley Ketchel movie would be awesome. The very definition of living fast and dying young. Not to mention the chewing on cocoa leaves with Jack London and the psycho Wyatt Earp wanna be angle. You couldn't get much better then that.
Yeah, cc for that one - Ketchel had a rambunctious life that would be a great film in this PC age.
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Originally Posted by X
There has already been a Mike Tyson movie.
Anywho, I think they should make a film about a struggling mediocre pug (perhaps from somewhere like Philly or somewhere - they could broadly model him on a real life boxer like Chuck Wepner or Marciano or someone). Anyway, the story could be that the world champion, and they should model this guy on a prime Ali without the politics or religion - needs to do an exhibition to commemorate an anniversary or soemthing.
So, they pick this guy, and the film is really about him rather than the fact he is a boxer, and he becomes an icon for the 'little guy', the poor people and the huddled masses by actually making a decent fight agaisnt the Champ.
What do you think?
cc u managed to outshine my post good idea
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...21281748.shtml
Mike Tyson 'Humbled' By Bio Movie
By Staff
May 20, 2007
Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson is "humbled" Hollywood producers are making a movie based on his life.
The boxer - who became the youngest heavyweight champion when he won the title aged 20 in 1986 - has contributed more than 30 hours of interviews for the project.
Tyson says, "I will, to the best of my abilities, give a truthful account of myself."
The film, titled "Tyson", will be directed by James Toback, who has known the fighter since 1985.
Toback says, "The point is not to polish his image or make a cinematic apology, but rather to get a first-hand look at a very complex and epic story.
"He was honest about all the things that have highlighted his life, from the bitter divorce, the ear-biting, prison, to his becoming a sex addict. He is self-aware, smart and a totally fractured personality, and he made himself completely vulnerable."
Toback adds the film, due out later this year (07), would not "gloss over" incidents such as Tyson's rape conviction or the ear-biting of rival Evander Holyfield in 1997.
i think thas more of a docmuentary amean a actul movie
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
They should make a movie about "Chico".
I agree with this he did a hell of a lot in his 29 years. CC
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
The Mike Tyson movie was crap lets have Rocky 7 from beyond the grave
Zombie Balboa hahaha
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Jack Dempsey would be another neat one, particulary focussing on his early life and his fighting career.
They made one about Dempsey....http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084160/...decent one actually, good actors in it and it definantly does the outside the ring trouble he had.
A Sammy Langford movie couldn't be bad or Charley Burley movie ...the best #2's there ever were
Willie Pep would make for a good movie...after a plane crash he becomes champ again...pretty bad ass
Young Griffo would fit the John L. Sullivan mold
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....I would also LOVE to see a boxing movie about "The Boston Strongboy" John L. Sullivan.
Bareknuckle fights, heavy drinking, braggadocio, the 1st world renowned HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION....and a tough SOB
Lyle my man.....they already made one "The Great John L". Seen it on the AMC channel yrs ago. They should make one on Dempsey, not that weak ass made for T.V. movie starring the Prince in the City actor, I forget his name. Show him penniless riding the rails, fighting in mining camps and saloons for food and board, fighting other Hobo's for his life. A real ferocious guy to becoming the toast of the sports world, even when in his Seventies he knocked out 2 would be muggers in N.Y.C. That would be a true rags to riches story.
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....that movie was made in 1945 and since it's no classic film like "On The Waterfront" so it should be not remade but revisited.
Plus it would be neat to have someone choreograph the fight scenes in the propper manner, as boxing was waaaaaaay different back then especially the 'American Style' of boxing
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Boxing movies about fighters never have done well have they? Usually the movies to do well have been movies about fictitious characters
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They change so much about the real fighters that it is a fiction.
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The thing about a Tyson movie.
It is kind of not neccesary since every moment of his real life was captured on film anyway, just watch Beyond the Glory and you can see the real thing ,
but yea i would like to see a movie anyway :)
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....if UFC was smart at marketing (which it kind of is) they'd make a movie about some bad ass learning his way up the ladder.
I wouldn't watch it even in theory because they'd get Van Damme or some prick like that to be the lead
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....if UFC was smart at marketing (which it kind of is) they'd make a movie about some bad a** learning his way up the ladder.
I wouldn't watch it even in theory because they'd get Van Damme or some prick like that to be the lead
They'd have trouble with that because then they'd actually have to have exciting fight scenes to sell the movie ;D
I dunno i think they've done just about every approach to a boxing movie that you could have. There's enough cliched movies about some bum who pulls the upset of a lifetime and all that. I think a good reality check about a bum getting anihilated by a far superior boxer would do people good. And before you say anything Danny G i also support casting manfredo in the role of the bum :P
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Possible titles for possible movies:
John Ruiz - 'The Quiet Man Huggeth'
Diego Corrales - 'Chico - The Man'
Manny Pacquaio - 'Manila Ice'
Robert Duran - 'Manos de Piedra'
Hasim Rahman - 'Faded'
James Toney - 'Lights Out'
Vivian Harris - 'Cat and Maussa'
Zab Judah - 'Harlem Shake'
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
They'd have trouble with that because then they'd actually have to have exciting fight scenes to sell the movie ;D
HIYOOOO.....hahaha ZING!