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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
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If anyone shot themselves in the foot & further besmirched their credibility...it's boxrec.com.
They listed Spinks in their top 10 middles...what the fwock?
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the fuck on!
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the F*** on!
Yea even though he gave good showing fact of matter is don't matter how many people say Spinks won at end of the day Taylor got the decision Spinks lost and a good showing should not automatically place you that high imo but i disagree with Mora he should be about 20.
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the F*** on!
come on wack the man best competition was 5 rounders (at a point which recordwise indicates he should've been fighting atleast 8) against guys that will get title shots but not win them. He steals rounds by throwing weak combos at the end of them and if he gets in the ring with a legit fighter (power puncher or not) he will get destroyed.
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And for the record,I dont writes em,I just reports em ;D
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the F*** on!
come on wack the man best competition was 5 rounders (at a point which recordwise indicates he should've been fighting atleast 8) against guys that will get title shots but not win them. He steals rounds by throwing weak combos at the end of them and if he gets in the ring with a legit fighter (power puncher or not) he will get destroyed.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to be wrong...but he's undefeated & keeps on winning...also...I never said that I liked him or that I think he's some kinda world beater...I just stated...clearly...that I have no issues with his placing in comparsion to Spinks though...it's laughable.
Pavlik should be resting in Spinks slot quite comfortabley.
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The heavyweight ratings have Sprott in the top 20 at first i thought that was a joke but after reveiwing the division for a second, i can't say that i completely disagree with that. I mean he has fought the best out there and beaten some of them.
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the F*** on!
come on wack the man best competition was 5 rounders (at a point which recordwise indicates he should've been fighting atleast 8) against guys that will get title shots but not win them. He steals rounds by throwing weak combos at the end of them and if he gets in the ring with a legit fighter (power puncher or not) he will get destroyed.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to be wrong...but he's undefeated & keeps on winning...also...I never said that I liked him or that I think he's some kinda world beater...I just stated...clearly...that I have no issues with his placing in comparsion to Spinks though...it's laughable.
Pavlik should be resting in Spinks slot quite comfortabley.
I do suppose staying undefeated against weak competition is better than have a loss to it. Fair enough >:mad
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the F*** on!
come on wack the man best competition was 5 rounders (at a point which recordwise indicates he should've been fighting atleast 8) against guys that will get title shots but not win them. He steals rounds by throwing weak combos at the end of them and if he gets in the ring with a legit fighter (power puncher or not) he will get destroyed.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to be wrong...but he's undefeated & keeps on winning...also...I never said that I liked him or that I think he's some kinda world beater...I just stated...clearly...that I have no issues with his placing in comparsion to Spinks though...it's laughable.
Pavlik should be resting in Spinks slot quite comfortabley.
He is undefeated yes but who has he beat in his last 2 fights ?? he got dropped by mediocre fighter then beats guy with 25-3 i think it was and that places Mora top 10 Middleweight ?? i don't think so Wacko.
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They're formula is messed up. It was made to predict who would win a fight and placing better fighters above the ones they'd supposedly beat. This formula has been changed several times in the last years because of situations like this. The last time it had to be changed because after alonzo butler beat a guy by some freakishly wide margin they shot him up to the top 8. They have it based on actual judges scores so the more points a judge gave a guy the more it effects his rating. The SD shot spinks up because essentially they're giving him credit with half beating Taylor.
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I don't get the point of boxrec's ratings one bit.
I mean, I understand their system, but I don't know what they're trying to prove wth it.
Boxing is maybe the most subjective sport in the world. Calculators can't determine boxing rankings.
Well, it's good for a laugh anyways.
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He is undefeated yes but who has he beat in his last 2 fights ?? he got dropped by mediocre fighter then beats guy with 25-3 i think it was and that places Mora top 10 Middleweight ?? i don't think so Wacko.
ICB...how would you rank a fighter when compiling a list?
Not quite sure how...but generally you line up the combatants that are most active & then you rank them on their records, opposition, & last completed bouts.
I never said that I agreed with the place that they have the man...nor did I say that I liked him...but it is laughable that Spinks is in the number three spot & Mora is trailing behind him.
For some reason...many people love LOVE LOVE to read more into what is posted than by what is actually said.
Mora's undefeated & has performed quite imperssively during his outtings. As for what happened regarding him being dropped...he got up to win...correct?
Odd that many boxing fans will applaude other fighters that they favor for getting up & gutting out a win when it suits their fancy.
Like Mora or not...& I fwockin don't...he did get up to win...& deserves the credit.
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He is undefeated yes but who has he beat in his last 2 fights ?? he got dropped by mediocre fighter then beats guy with 25-3 i think it was and that places Mora top 10 Middleweight ?? i don't think so Wacko.
ICB...how would you rank a fighter when compiling a list?
Not quite sure how...but generally you line up the combatants that are most active & then you rank them on their records, opposition, & last completed bouts.
I never said that I agreed with the place that they have the man...nor did I say that I liked him...but it is laughable that Spinks is in the number three spot & Mora is trailing behind him.
For some reason...many people love LOVE LOVE to read more into what is posted than by what is actually said.
Mora's undefeated & has performed quite imperssively during his outtings. As for what happened regarding him being dropped...he got up to win...correct?
Odd that many boxing fans will applaude other fighters that they favor for getting up & gutting out a win when it suits their fancy.
Like Mora or not...& I fwockin don't...he did get up to win...& deserves the credit.
I don't think Spinks should be 3 i agreed with you on that but Mora at number 10 ?? he hasn't fought since August yes he got up and won from being kd but still not impressive to be dropped by a nobody and since that has fought a guy with 25-3 he is nowhere near top 10 imo.
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He is undefeated yes but who has he beat in his last 2 fights ?? he got dropped by mediocre fighter then beats guy with 25-3 i think it was and that places Mora top 10 Middleweight ?? i don't think so Wacko.
ICB...how would you rank a fighter when compiling a list?
Not quite sure how...but generally you line up the combatants that are most active & then you rank them on their records, opposition, & last completed bouts.
I never said that I agreed with the place that they have the man...nor did I say that I liked him...but it is laughable that Spinks is in the number three spot & Mora is trailing behind him.
For some reason...many people love LOVE LOVE to read more into what is posted than by what is actually said.
Mora's undefeated & has performed quite imperssively during his outtings. As for what happened regarding him being dropped...he got up to win...correct?
Odd that many boxing fans will applaude other fighters that they favor for getting up & gutting out a win when it suits their fancy.
Like Mora or not...& I fwockin don't...he did get up to win...& deserves the credit.
I don't think Spinks should be 3 i agreed with you on that but Mora at number 10 ?? he hasn't fought since August yes he got up and won from being kd but still not impressive to be dropped by a nobody and since that has fought a guy with 25-3 he is nowhere near top 10 imo.
So then it's what have you done for me lately, then?
Prior to that he TKO'd TerMeliksetian...whom I'm guessing is the bum you were talking about?
If you look at it like that...what have you done for me lately...then Taylor should be dropped as the champ & moved down from the number one spot because he looked like shit against Ouma & lost to Spinks.
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I will say this on the "Who have they fought?" part of the raitings
Bronco McKart is still fighting?
Really?
Why?
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He is undefeated yes but who has he beat in his last 2 fights ?? he got dropped by mediocre fighter then beats guy with 25-3 i think it was and that places Mora top 10 Middleweight ?? i don't think so Wacko.
ICB...how would you rank a fighter when compiling a list?
Not quite sure how...but generally you line up the combatants that are most active & then you rank them on their records, opposition, & last completed bouts.
I never said that I agreed with the place that they have the man...nor did I say that I liked him...but it is laughable that Spinks is in the number three spot & Mora is trailing behind him.
For some reason...many people love LOVE LOVE to read more into what is posted than by what is actually said.
Mora's undefeated & has performed quite imperssively during his outtings. As for what happened regarding him being dropped...he got up to win...correct?
Odd that many boxing fans will applaude other fighters that they favor for getting up & gutting out a win when it suits their fancy.
Like Mora or not...& I fwockin don't...he did get up to win...& deserves the credit.
I don't think Spinks should be 3 i agreed with you on that but Mora at number 10 ?? he hasn't fought since August yes he got up and won from being kd but still not impressive to be dropped by a nobody and since that has fought a guy with 25-3 he is nowhere near top 10 imo.
So then it's what have you done for me lately, then?
Prior to that he TKO'd TerMeliksetian...whom I'm guessing is the bum you were talking about?
If you look at it like that...what have you done for me lately...then Taylor should be dropped as the champ & moved down from the number one spot because he looked like S*** against Ouma & lost to Spinks.
No thats not what i mean im just giving you an example level of opponents he has faced all bums his best win is agaisnt Manfredo and thats not saying whole lot about Mora and he certainly shouldn't be anywhere near top 10.
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They're formula is messed up. It was made to predict who would win a fight and placing better fighters above the ones they'd supposedly beat. This formula has been changed several times in the last years because of situations like this. The last time it had to be changed because after alonzo butler beat a guy by some freakishly wide margin they shot him up to the top 8. They have it based on actual judges scores so the more points a judge gave a guy the more it effects his rating. The SD shot spinks up because essentially they're giving him credit with half beating Taylor.
You can't make legitimate boxing ratings. It's nearly impossible. Hell they had ezzard charles at #1 all time because he beat louis and had some run ins with marciano. At that point, i think they had level of competition considered heavily but it was still forwned upon.
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In a nearly 7 year professional career Mora has only fought 19 times. Only two of those 19 fights have been 10 rounds and none have been 12. His 2 opponents in those 10 round fights aren't even in the vicinity of Top 50 fighters, much less Top 20. He hasn't had any championship fights. Nothing Mora has done qualifies him to be a Top 10 candidate, simple as that. Just beating people isn't enough or shouldn't be enough, you have to beat the right people or should I say true competition.
As far as Cory Spinks goes, he should be ranked at lt. middlweight as opposed to middleweight seeing as how he only came up for this one fight.
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Mora at number 10 :lolhaha: what a joke.
I actually have no issues with that...but Spinks at number three?!?!?! Over Pavlik?
Come the fuck on!
And Miranda looses to a great fighter in pavlik who is rated top five by them and drops 9 places...
::** Utter joke
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Will that Sergio Mora ever fight again???
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If anyone shot themselves in the foot & further besmirched their credibility...it's boxrec.com.
Agreed.
Jermaine might not be the most popular, but the fact is he is the man because he beat the man... twice. Jermaine will be #1 until he is beaten.
