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Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlik 7-9th round knockout.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
i see JT pulling this one out, SD
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlick UD on workrate alone
Taylor has all the tools, but he has no heart and no desire, he wouldn't be able to go missing all night against a come forward pressure fighter like Pavlick.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Depends. If this is in Taylor's hometown, I think that even if Pavlik knocked him out...they'd find a way to give Taylor the decision.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
Depends. If this is in Taylor's hometown, I think that even if Pavlik knocked him out...they'd find a way to give Taylor the decision.
Lol yea Taylor certainly has had judges on his side lately really and truthfully he could of been 0-4.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlik wins hands down. If Taylor runs, he's loses the decision. If he stays in the pocket, he gets beat the eff up.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by PhillyChris
Pavlik wins hands down. If Taylor runs, he's loses the decision. If he stays in the pocket, he gets beat the eff up.
Like your way of thinking agreed 8)
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Very hard to pick. Depends if all the hype about Taylor a couple of years back was true or not, but this fight would certainly let us know. I rate Pavlik highly, he has good technique and power, Taylor would have to be the P4P fighter he thinks he is to beat him, even then it should be close as Pavlik has shown us he take a good shot as well.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
I would pick Pavlik by late TKO but this could be a fight where Taylor steps it up and does the buisness.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
I would pick Pavlik by late TKO but this could be a fight where Taylor steps it up and does the buisness.
If he wakes up from his coma he will because thats the way he has been fighting lately :-X
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlik's work rate earns him a UD
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
You can tell why HBO wants this fight. They have invested alot in Taylor as they saw him as the future of boxing. Now he's no longer a big draw, they're planning a fight against the man that is. The fight will either relaunch Taylor or further enhance the reputation of their new star. If Calzaghe beat Taylor, it does nothing for them but destroy their own star and create mild interest in a 35 year old Welshman who would be soon retiring.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
You can tell why HBO wants this fight. They have invested alot in Taylor as they saw him as the future of boxing. Now he's no longer a big draw, they're planning a fight against the man that is. The fight will either relaunch Taylor or further enhance the reputation of their new star. If Calzaghe beat Taylor, it does nothing for them but destroy their own star and create mild interest in a 35 year old Welshman who would be soon retiring.
Well said cc.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
taylor could win a decision but i think pavlik tko him
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
I'd be real curious how JT fights this one. I mean he isn't a slick technical boxer, and at the world class level he hasn't shown KO power. Does he choose to bang with Kelly? I doubt it and I dont think he wins a slugfest either. To me JT's chin is untested and Pavlik's looked pretty sturdy taking the best Miranda had to offer. So the question is can he out box Pavlik for a late stoppage or decision? My opinion is that JT can't outbox him moving backwards, and will either get KO'd late or lose a bad UD and be knocked down a couple of times....That being said JT has been in with a much better pedigree than Kelly, and maybe he has learned a thing or two....I'd put money on Pavlik but not all of it.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'd be real curious how JT fights this one. I mean he isn't a slick technical boxer, and at the world class level he hasn't shown KO power. Does he choose to bang with Kelly? I doubt it and I dont think he wins a slugfest either. To me JT's chin is untested and Pavlik's looked pretty sturdy taking the best Miranda had to offer. So the question is can he out box Pavlik for a late stoppage or decision? My opinion is that JT can't outbox him moving backwards, and will either get KO'd late or lose a bad UD and be knocked down a couple of times....That being said JT has been in with a much better pedigree than Kelly, and maybe he has learned a thing or two....I'd put money on Pavlik but not all of it.
Agreed well said.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Taylor has a better defense and way more rounded boxer than most of Pavlik's previous opponents, but i don't think JT can survive Pavlik's constant on slot and pinpoint straight rights to last past 8 rounds. So Pavlik by KO by 8th round.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Pavlik, all Taylor will do will try and pop shot and dodge. Pavlik won't give him space and i for sure see a knockout
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
all the same people that says taylor will loose every time he fights. i need you people to show back up and eat your crow this time. taylor 8 round KO.
taylor got to where he is today counter punching big KO rights and sticking jabs down his oppositions neck. the last five fights were track stars and pavlik is no runner. he cant handle the power but will have a chance to land a big shot like any strait forward boxer.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by teamTAYLOR
all the same people that says taylor will loose every time he fights. i need you people to show back up and eat your crow this time. taylor 8 round KO.
taylor got to where he is today counter punching big KO rights and sticking jabs down his oppositions neck. the last five fights were track stars and pavlik is no runner. he cant handle the power but will have a chance to land a big shot like any strait forward boxer.
Taylor hasn't cracked an egg in ages and couldn't even ko a natural Welterweight Cory Spinks i find it hard to believe that he will ko a monster like Pavlik and actually in many peoples eye he should be atleast 1-3.
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Originally Posted by teamTAYLOR
all the same people that says Taylor will loose every time he fights. i need you people to show back up and eat your crow this time. Taylor 8 round KO.
Taylor got to where he is today counter punching big KO rights and sticking jabs down his oppositions neck. the last five fights were track stars and pavlik is no runner. he cant handle the power but will have a chance to land a big shot like any strait forward boxer.
Come 9-29-07 you will disappear from this forum like Pantera did. I think you might even be Pantera. Hell I bet you are Don Omega from Boxing for real. I'm still waiting on you mom to come down in the basement while you are filming this crap with some milk and cookies. Either way 9-29-07 you will have more excuses than a crack head going to jail. To me if I were Taylor I would not want the rematch clause if I got kayoed . 2nd time could be embrassing. Taylor aint no Willie Pep. So I dont see him making a huge come back rematch win. Smaller guys push him back all day. What makes you think he is going to cut off the ring to a guy that can snap your forearms as he punches through guard. One shot is all it takes. Taylor will eat some rights and not by Spinks , Ouma , Hopkins, or Wright. Pavlik can out punch most light heavy weights. Taylor is going to get beat.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
HMM BIG FAN OF BOTH I MUST ADMIT. WHILST PAVLIK YOU CANT RUN OR HIDE ATTITUDE WILL TROUBLE JT IN BOTH B-HOP FIGHTS IN THE LATTER ROUNDS B-HOP PUNISHED HIM BUT HE STAYED ON HIS FEET. I KNOW THAT PAVLIK WONT SIT BACK IN THE EARLY ROUNDS IN ORDER FOR JT TO GET A SIGNIFICANT POINTS LEAD LIKE HOPKINS DID. I CAN SEE JT WINNING THIS ONE MAYBE IT'S TIME WE SAW JT USE HIS ATHLETISM AND STRENGTH THAT HE DOES POSSES AND SHOW THE WORLD HE IS A GOOD BOXER. I'M NOT SAYING STAND THERE AND TRADE THAT WOULD BE STUPID BUT TAYLOR FOR ME.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Goin for taylor by tko around the tenth.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Even though Pavlik beat an overrated hard hitting Mirranda, i'm still not sold on Pavlik. Jermain been a big let down since he became champ but i think come September he gon prove to everyone why is the champ and not only beat Pavlik but knock him out in 8 rounds. You heard it hear first. O0
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Taylor. Definitely. Pavlik is the guy who has impressed as of lately but against less than stellar competition. Miranda was all hype-hopefully we all see that. Taylor hasn't KO'd anyone in 6 fights but you have to examine who he was in against. Joppy didn't engage and ran all night once he tasted Taylor's power, Hopkins is Hopkins, Wright is Wright, Ouma decided to be a freak of nature and eat a million hard shots and not be taken out (Taylor snapped his head back several times but it showed no effect) and Cory Spinks was much to fast and slick for Taylor to take out. All that experience has to register somehow on Taylor (except for Joppy). Pavlik will be Taylor's first opportunity in a while to do what he does best: bang. Now Pavlik can do the same so I'm not suggesting it's a lock. But Taylor won't have to chase Pavlik down or punch through a guard; he's going in against a fighter who is largely the same as he is. Pavlik is big, strong and tends to neglect his defense. It's on Taylor to draw from what Steward is teaching him and what he's learned from his last few fights to show why he has the belt.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
Taylor silences all you critics with a brutal bloodied TKO finish somewhere from rounds 7 to 9. ;)
Ask yourself how did BHop look before Taylor? against Hoya & Eastman he looked brilliant, after Taylor against Tarver & Wright he looked even better!! I still don't understand why so many think Taylor will be exposed when BHop couldn't do it?
JT has fought 3 southpaws (all ex-champions, two of UNDISPUTED champions!!) in a row! and he failed to look the goods ::** This will be the perfect final JT stamp on the division.
The money I put on this fight will help cushion the loss of coin I endure when if Hatton loses. ^-^
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by teamTAYLOR
all the same people that says Taylor will loose every time he fights. i need you people to show back up and eat your crow this time. Taylor 8 round KO.
Taylor got to where he is today counter punching big KO rights and sticking jabs down his oppositions neck. the last five fights were track stars and pavlik is no runner. he cant handle the power but will have a chance to land a big shot like any strait forward boxer.
Come 9-29-07 you will disappear from this forum like Pantera did. I think you might even be Pantera. Hell I bet you are Don Omega from Boxing for real. I'm still waiting on you mom to come down in the basement while you are filming this crap with some milk and cookies. Either way 9-29-07 you will have more excuses than a crack head going to jail. To me if I were Taylor I would not want the rematch clause if I got kayoed . 2nd time could be embrassing. Taylor aint no Willie Pep. So I dont see him making a huge come back rematch win. Smaller guys push him back all day. What makes you think he is going to cut off the ring to a guy that can snap your forearms as he punches through guard. One shot is all it takes. Taylor will eat some rights and not by Spinks , Ouma , Hopkins, or Wright. Pavlik can out punch most light heavy weights. Taylor is going to get beat.
i dont really understand what your talking about???
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by teamTAYLOR
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by teamTAYLOR
all the same people that says Taylor will loose every time he fights. i need you people to show back up and eat your crow this time. Taylor 8 round KO.
Taylor got to where he is today counter punching big KO rights and sticking jabs down his oppositions neck. the last five fights were track stars and pavlik is no runner. he cant handle the power but will have a chance to land a big shot like any strait forward boxer.
Come 9-29-07 you will disappear from this forum like Pantera did. I think you might even be Pantera. Hell I bet you are Don Omega from Boxing for real. I'm still waiting on you mom to come down in the basement while you are filming this crap with some milk and cookies. Either way 9-29-07 you will have more excuses than a crack head going to jail. To me if I were Taylor I would not want the rematch clause if I got kayoed . 2nd time could be embrassing. Taylor aint no Willie Pep. So I dont see him making a huge come back rematch win. Smaller guys push him back all day. What makes you think he is going to cut off the ring to a guy that can snap your forearms as he punches through guard. One shot is all it takes. Taylor will eat some rights and not by Spinks , Ouma , Hopkins, or Wright. Pavlik can out punch most light heavy weights. Taylor is going to get beat.
i dont really understand what your talking about???
pavlik is the champ and i give him his props... makes me even more exited about the rematch! what a good fight...
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
The money I put on this fight will help cushion the loss of coin I endure when if Hatton loses. ^-^
Christ Hatton better give me an upset!! I haven't had the best year with my bets. :-\
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now
i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
:puke:
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now
i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
:puke:
:cwm23:
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now
i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
:puke:
:cwm23:
:angel: Couldnt resist sorry
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Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor Who Wins ??
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now
i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
:puke:
:cwm23:
:angel: Couldnt resist sorry
That's ok, it's just that i have screwed up every prediction this year and finally i got one right for a change!
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Pavlik is a monster, Taylor should steer well clear of him and duck him as long as possible.
Pavlik would destroy him by the middle rounds.
I just found my Pavlik V Taylor prediction, i am a genius! I haven't been to successful with my fight predictions this year so now
i'm going to blow my own trumpet!
:puke:
:cwm23:
:angel: Couldnt resist sorry
That's ok, it's just that i have screwed up every prediction this year and finally i got one right for a change!
I'm goin pretty bad this Autumn. Wasn't to bad early in the year, but this Autumn i had, Barrera, Taylor, Eastman all to win. Worst run iv ever had, but hopefully it clear up well before christmas (Dec8)
