IF MORRALES fought Hamed before Barrera would it be the same?
After watching the barrera-hamed fight again recently..i wonder if EM would have done the same thing to Prince...then after watching raheem and pacquiao beat EM I started to think maybe that would have just been a fight I wouldn't have been able to call..
Also i think it would have to have had to happen before Barrera beat him (the prince) because once Marco beat him it probably would have been easy for morrales, but then erik did beat pacman in the first fight, but i guess that means nothing...
so who would have won if they fought first before Hamed v Barrera? PRINCE or EM?
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I think Moreales' style would have suited the prince far more than Barreras style . Remember Nas was never allowed into the fight against Barrera cuz he could never get set . Morales though has never had a good defence and so Nas would have been able to land his heavy shots . It could have been like Morales - Pac 3 or Nas -Kelley . Certainly an entertaining fight
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
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After watching the barrera-hamed fight again recently..i wonder if EM would have done the same thing to Prince...then after watching raheem and pacquiao beat EM I started to think maybe that would have just been a fight I wouldn't have been able to call..
Also i think it would have to have had to happen before Barrera beat him (the prince) because once Marco beat him it probably would have been easy for morrales, but then erik did beat pacman in the first fight, but i guess that means nothing...
so who would have won if they fought first before Hamed v Barrera? PRINCE or EM?
Somehow Barrera's style would be tougher for Hamed than Morales. Morales was great but he relied more on heart than Barrera. I think Barrera is just a pinch better than Morales. I think Hamed would have beaten Morales.
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I think Moreales' style would have suited the prince far more than Barreras style . Remember Nas was never allowed into the fight against Barrera cuz he could never get set . Morales though has never had a good defence and so Nas would have been able to land his heavy shots . It could have been like Morales - Pac 3 or Nas -Kelley . Certainly an entertaining fight
Agreed Morales was even better technical fighter than Barrera and he would of won bit more comvincing than even Barrera did.
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
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After watching the barrera-hamed fight again recently..i wonder if EM would have done the same thing to Prince...then after watching raheem and pacquiao beat EM I started to think maybe that would have just been a fight I wouldn't have been able to call..
Also i think it would have to have had to happen before Barrera beat him (the prince) because once Marco beat him it probably would have been easy for morrales, but then erik did beat pacman in the first fight, but i guess that means nothing...
so who would have won if they fought first before Hamed v Barrera? PRINCE or EM?
Somehow Barrera's style would be tougher for Hamed than Morales. Morales was great but he relied more on heart than Barrera. I think Barrera is just a pinch better than Morales. I think Hamed would have beaten Morales.
Disagree Morales was actually better boxer on the outside than Barrera he could box well on outside and if he would of gone in there with Naz he would of known danger of Nazs power and boxed on outside and won decision.
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Morales was a very skilled boxer, but he was always a brawler at heart, so he would have exchanged more with Hamed than Barrera did. Hamed probably would have landed some big punches, because Erik wouldn't have stayed quite as disciplined as Barrera did. But Morales had an iron jaw in his prime, I think he would have beaten Hamed.
Just like Barrera, Morales would have been too skilled and too tough for Hamed. If the Prince started messing around, Erik wouldn't have smashed him into the turnbuckle, he would've punched him in the nuts instead.
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
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After watching the barrera-hamed fight again recently..i wonder if EM would have done the same thing to Prince...then after watching raheem and pacquiao beat EM I started to think maybe that would have just been a fight I wouldn't have been able to call..
Also i think it would have to have had to happen before Barrera beat him (the prince) because once Marco beat him it probably would have been easy for morrales, but then erik did beat pacman in the first fight, but i guess that means nothing...
so who would have won if they fought first before Hamed v Barrera? PRINCE or EM?
Somehow Barrera's style would be tougher for Hamed than Morales. Morales was great but he relied more on heart than Barrera. I think Barrera is just a pinch better than Morales. I think Hamed would have beaten Morales.
Disagree Morales was actually better boxer on the outside than Barrera he could box well on outside and if he would of gone in there with Naz he would of known danger of Nazs power and boxed on outside and won decision.
i don't think morrales is better on the outside than barrera..but then i'm only rembering the raheem fight..but this is too hard to tell how it would have gone seeing as how we're all using hindsight to decide...
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
He wouldn't have to because he would box on outside like Barrera and outbox Naz.
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
He wouldn't have to because he would box on outside like Barrera and outbox Naz.
but don't forget naz was a lefty...but had power in both hands and you saw what pac did to morrales and after seeing the second and third fights...i think pacman had a good argue ment that morrales only won the first because of the gloves...because when wore his punchers glove he stopped morrales twice...
anyway prince's lefty style mayhave posed a prob for EM
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
He wouldn't have to because he would box on outside like Barrera and outbox Naz.
When Naz lost to Barrera he were'nt on form i think had Naz still been with Ingle it would have been different my point with Injin Chi was he shuck Morales a few times when he caught him Naz did'nt shake you he ko'd you Morales would have been ko'd
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
He wouldn't have to because he would box on outside like Barrera and outbox Naz.
When Naz lost to Barrera he were'nt on form i think had Naz still been with Ingle it would have been different my point with Injin Chi was he shuck Morales a few times when he caught him Naz did'nt shake you he ko'd you Morales would have been ko'd
naz was waaaaaay to unorthodox or barrera was waaaay to technical..regardless of the trainer naz would have lost...he had manny for that fight and the things manny was telling him were things that were too imbeded into naz to change...i.e. keeping his chin so high, and his hands down,
barrera all the way....EM isn't on the same technical level as barrera..so i think prince would have had a better shot against EM...but again its all hindsight..
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Manny tried to change Naz's style to much he lost his original base and all the crazy angles the thing with the gloves fucked his head he did'nt even flip over the ropes because the gloves still did'nt feel right.
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I think Naz would have stopped Morales without to much trouble i remember watching Injin Chi giving him some trouble and shuck him a few times and i think a better prepared Naz would have beaten Barrera
Giving him bit a trouble and giving him load of trouble is totally different Naz had trouble alot of trouble with Kelley Medina ect Morales would of beat Naz his style was even better suited to beat Naz than it was for Barrera.
No way would Morales be able to take Naz's power
He wouldn't have to because he would box on outside like Barrera and outbox Naz.
but don't forget naz was a lefty...but had power in both hands and you saw what pac did to morrales and after seeing the second and third fights...i think pacman had a good argue ment that morrales only won the first because of the gloves...because when wore his punchers glove he stopped morrales twice...
anyway prince's lefty style mayhave posed a prob for EM
Morales vs Pac is totally different Pac moves side to side comes right at you Naz holds his hands down and waits for openings Pac doesn't Naz has been shook so many times in his career and i hate to say it but he never really fought top level opponent mostly domestic fighters hell even Ingle almost had Naz in 10th round of there fight.
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come on.. naz looked good against guys who just wasnt elite, his trainer said he didnt want marquez, and instead went for barrera..
i really think that those hyping up naz, saying, well morales this and morales that, should take a deep breath.. cause this is simply ,a bad excuse, as bad as it gets..
morales, barrera and marquez are as bad as they come in boxing, skills, chin and heart, all of them warriors and able to take punches,, that is simply not up for discussion.. ..
if naz was such a great fighter, then he would have adapted to barrera style, and tried to do something, but he just wasnt skilled enough to do so..
honestly the 3 mentioned was just a class above naz..
naz simply just didnt cut against the elite, morales, barrera and marquez would all beat a prime naz..
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that's right he didn't i forgot about that..but then he did retire after that or soon after..if he really felt the gloves made a difference he would have kept fighting and demanded a rematch after a few wins to prove it was the gloves..i.e. PACMAN v MOrrales...
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come on.. naz looked good against guys who just wasnt elite, his trainer said he didnt want marquez, and instead went for barrera..
i really think that those hyping up naz, saying, well morales this and morales that, should take a deep breath.. cause this is simply ,a bad excuse, as bad as it gets..
morales, barrera and marquez are as bad as they come in boxing, skills, chin and heart, all of them warriors and able to take punches,, that is simply not up for discussion.. ..
if naz was such a great fighter, then he would have adapted to barrera style, and tried to do something, but he just wasnt skilled enough to do so..
honestly the 3 mentioned was just a class above naz..
naz simply just didnt cut against the elite morales, barrera and marquez would all beat a prime naz..
so then naz is like delahoya... ;D ;)
