Cotto's future if he loses?

For the record, I don't think he'll lose.

Was just thinking a hypothetical situation:

If he was to lose a close decision, would he probably stay at WW, and go ahead with Arum's plan to face the winner of Margarito-Williams?

If he gets KOd, (Obviously, Zab's hand speed would play a major roll), would he retreat to 140, since he's only been at 147 for less than a year, and try to fight the winner of Hatton-JLC? (Weight drain might be a problem, plus the fact that Tony and Paul have very heavy hands)

If you were his handlers, or cotto himself, what's the best option?

I don't see him going down in weight, 147 is his most natural weight class.

If he loses, he'll do what most beaten fighters do, he'll fight some easy opponents to get his confidence back, and then 2 or 3 fights down the road, he'll get another shot at a big fight.

I would not be surprised if there is a rematch clause in the contract for this fight. He'd probably have an immediate rematch with Zab.

Depends on how he lost, if it was a close questionable decision a rematch would be a shoe in. If Zab blew him out in a round or so I agree with Sweetpea that Cotto would go back to the drawing board & rebuild against a few easy opponents. It would definitely put a huge dent in his earning & star potential though

I don't see any way that Judah gets a close decision against Cotto. Powers that be won't let it happen.

Well I don't think it'll matter much even if he gets stopped. Cotto's style is blood and guts and he doesn't seem to change his psyche even when he's rocked.

If Miguel was to lose he'd just get back up and start fighting to get his title back

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I don't see any way that Judah gets a close decision against Cotto. Powers that be won't let it happen.

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Stranger things have happened...

Agreed with all. As I said, purely hypothetical, and I feel that he will win.

Going back to the drawing board is the best option usually. But, Cotto is exciting, but not the biggest draw. And, If he got blew out, he would lose alot of credibility amongst the general public. So, (physically and mentally, might not be the best option) why not jump at a chance to fight the winner of the JLC-Hatton fight? Neither of those fighters, IMO, are going to be the top at 147, but I'm sure that both of their camps would jump at the fight, and a win would put Cotto right back in the thick of things, as long as he could handle the weight drain (and if the winner is Castillo, the fight might be at 147). It's a gamble, but it's also just a thought, not reality. All of these hypothetical threads about fights in the past, I figured I would make one in the present, that could actually happen.

:coolclick: 's to Hulk, Galaxy76, sweetpea, and Lyle for replying. As I said before, I'd rather talk about hypothetical situations, that could happen, rathen than ones that will never happen.

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I don't see any way that Judah gets a close decision against Cotto. Powers that be won't let it happen.

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Well you would think that the powers that be wouldn't have given Baldomir the decision either.

He gets a rematch and starts over again, he is young enough and good enough to bounce back.

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I don't see any way that Judah gets a close decision against Cotto. Powers that be won't let it happen.

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Well you would think that the powers that be wouldn't have given Baldomir the decision either.

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True, but said powers that be like Cotto a lot better than Judah.

i dont see how Zab can win Cotto will KO him in similar fashion to Kostya

Cotto has been waiting for a fight like this for a long time. Judah is just looking for a pay check. trust me...the name "Cotto" and the word "lost" will not come out of anybodys mouth on June 9th. We should be talking a bout "Judah's future when he loses?".....

One thing is very probable, I doubt Cotto will return to 140. He was making too much sacrifice to make the weight, and now that he has adapted to 147 this will probably be the biggest mistake he can make, and I don't think he will attempt to do it. I remember couple of years ago that he was trying to make 135 looking for a shot with Floyd, but could not make the weight. This is a fight I really want to see, but at 147. Although Floyd has the speed and movements to run from Cotto, a body attack from Cotto will not be the same as De La Hoya.

This is the fight I really want to see: Cotto vs Floyd

Other fights I would like to see some day are: Margarito and Mosley

Hey PRP... good to see you. I agree, Cotto will likely never go back to 140. I think 147 is his natural weight.

Saludos mi amigo, que bueno verte por aqui nuevamente.

Definitely Cotto should not attempt a move back to 147. That may be OK for Hatton, but not for Cotto. I really hope Cotto get a victory sufficiently impressive over Judah that can make Floyd think about fighting him.

Disfrutando de este fin de semana largo. Espero la estes pasando bien.

I think you meant 140. But you're right...... 140 is Hatton's natural weight, just like 147 is Cotto's. Now, Hatton did fight at 147 before. Maybe he can go up again and challenge Cotto at that weight.

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Disfrutando de este fin de semana largo. Espero la estes pasando bien.

I think you meant 140. But you're right...... 140 is Hatton's natural weight, just like 147 is Cotto's. Now, Hatton did fight at 147 before. Maybe he can go up again and challenge Cotto at that weight.

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You are right, I pressed the wrong button, I meant 140. Hatton vs Cotto will be a great fight also.

definatly a close fight if it is ever made. Ricky's got the tools to beat him!!!

At 147 Cotto would have too much power for Hatton I feel. 140 would suit Hatton though.

If Cotto takes an L next Saturday then he just bounces back. Judah has his multiple losses and he's fighitng Cotto on Saturday, isn't he?

One loss is meaningless.


*Of course it would help if I finished reading the original post. I think he stays put since moving back means extra heartache during camp.

IF Cotto would lose,I don't think it would be that big a deal at this time. I think he is Arum's trumpcard,and Arum would do anything he could to get him back into the picture. I think he'd rematch Zab or fight some bums,get the confidence back up,it depends on the manner of the loss.

Interesting. First of all, for me this is irrelevent because he won't lose...but, I'd probably give him somebody he should beat with no problems...then move him towards a rematch or another big fight. He's beaten a few names to still have a good standing.

He would probably fight Mosley. Mosley been fighting some fighters who recently lost lately, Vargas and Collazo. So he will probably fight the looser of this fight as well.

LOL I don't really think this will happen I just thought it was funny how Mosley been hyped up again by his recent wins against a shot Vargas and Collazo, a decent fighter but one who came out of a loss against Hatton (even though he made Hatton look bad).

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I don't see him going down in weight, 147 is his most natural weight class.

If he loses, he'll do what most beaten fighters do, he'll fight some easy opponents to get his confidence back, and then 2 or 3 fights down the road, he'll get another shot at a big fight.

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Spot on, i agree 100%

Here is an idea (though it will probably never materialise):

Mayweather vs. Winner of Judah-Cotto for Welterweight title
Margarito vs. Loser of Judah-Cotto and the winner becomes number one contender

If PBF is offered enoygh $$$ he will come out of 'retirement', the winner of Judah-Cotto would be pleased that they are getting a shot at the Ring championship belt, Margarito ducks no one and would enjoy finally getting a big fight and the loser of Judah-Cotto would be grateful for a 2nd chance (or a 4th chance if the loser is Judah)

That could be sorted within a year and then after that Mosley should fight the champ in a final fight

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I don't see him going down in weight, 147 is his most natural weight class.

If he loses, he'll do what most beaten fighters do, he'll fight some easy opponents to get his confidence back, and then 2 or 3 fights down the road, he'll get another shot at a big fight.

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Spot on, i agree 100%

Here is an idea (though it will probably never materialise):

Mayweather vs. Winner of Judah-Cotto for Welterweight title
Margarito vs. Loser of Judah-Cotto and the winner becomes number one contender

If PBF is offered enoygh $$$ he will come out of 'retirement', the winner of Judah-Cotto would be pleased that they are getting a shot at the Ring championship belt, Margarito ducks no one and would enjoy finally getting a big fight and the loser of Judah-Cotto would be grateful for a 2nd chance (or a 4th chance if the loser is Judah)

That could be sorted within a year and then after that Mosley should fight the champ in a final fight

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There's no way Floyd fights the winner of Cotto-Judah if Zab is the one who wins. A Mosley fight is worth more money than a Zab rematch.
However, if Cotto puts on a spectacular knockout performance, there's a chance that a Cotto-Floyd fight becomes more marketable than a Floyd-Mosley fight.

I think Cotto will win against Judah.
Cotto is young and hungry and he seems to be able to take a shot which is imperative at the top level. Cotto is taking this fight for all the right reasons.
I have to wonder the reasoning for Judah taking this fight?
If he wins he will be in a slightly better position to look for a big money match but I get the feeling he is most likely looking for a payday and that is not the right headspace to be taking into the ring.
Not against a banger like Cotto.
I believe Judah will get a fright when he cops a shot from Cotto and he will take to his toes.
It's certainly going to be an entertaining match up and it's looong overdue for Cotto to get a chance at a ranked and respected quality opponent. I wish the young man well. He is good for the image of boxing.

Should Cotto lose he is young and strong, he has years left in him and he would be back by the end of the year looking for a rematch or a new target.