Ive gota go with Lewis he had Tyson's number..
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Ive gota go with Lewis he had Tyson's number..
This debate went 21 pages last time me vs BIG H and Miles cracking debate that was :)
Tyson he was loads better than the Tyson who fought Lewis when he was in his prime and Lewis was in his prime yet still had to go 8 rounds to stop a faded Tyson.And i've done this topic before
Lewis would eat a lot of uppercuts.
Only because Lewis injured his right hand and couldn't throw it for a couple of rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
I thought Tyson was the one who got caught with the uppercuts ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
still 8 rounds fella ;) ;D
8 rounds of punishment but it doesn't matter how long it took because Tyson has a decent chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
That and two other reasons...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
1. Lewis took tyson's power seriously... he had been reclace often in the past, and new no matter what this was one fight he could not lose, and no matter how washed up tyson was, there was always the chance he could end a fight with one big punch.
2. He wnated to punish tyson, there was no doubt he could of ended that fight many rounds before, but he didn't want no quick knock out, no one big punch, he wnated ti inflic his punishment over a number a rounds...
great chin really he tuck a massive barrage off Holyfield got stopped on his feet 20 unanswered punches off Williams massive blows off Lewis and Douglas
I thought this thread was about... "Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?"Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Lewis is too smart for Tyson, Lewis would have weathered an early storm by holding on then would have stopped Tyson between 8-12.
It could go either way. The problem Tyson even had in his prime against tall fighters is that they could tie him up on the inside relatively easy its why IMO Lewis beat him even when he was older, and why Holyfield could beat him. I think Lennox could win on the outside like he did against Tua except with more holding or Tyson could spark him out. More often than not I say Lewis wins.
Lewis wins more than Mike out of ten fights.
LL 11th rnd tko
Same prediction if not a little earlier. LL was the and is still the best heavy weight champ from his time till the present and probally the most underrated of all time. +1 at yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'd take Lewis by decision, but it could EASILY go to Tyson by knockout IMO. Prime Tyson and the Tyson who fought Lewis are completely different. I think Tyson at his best would give any man who ever lived all he could handle, but I'd go with Lewis to edge him out on points.
Tyson in his prime was 10 times better than Tua Tyson used to bob and weave his way in slipping the jab and let his punches go his speed and power combined used to just smash through guards noway lewis wins this one no way on earth Tyson would stop him inside 5 rounds Tyson was brutal in his primeQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
If McCall & Rahman could do it - Tyson could do it ;) A fully prepared LL would stand a btter chance than most in history, but would still get caught imo
prime lewis kills mike...just like prime evander, holmes, foreman..they all would outbox him
I think Tyson would take all these prime for primeQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
its convient that most will say that mike prime came right before he lost to dougalss...but he was only 23 years old..but lemme guess he was ring old...and if that was the case then it wasn't because he wasn't knocking all the bums out so he wasn'[t in the ring that long...as soon as he fought the top guys from his generation he lost....Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
no mate, his prime was 86-88 (the kevin rooney years) ;) tyson was absoloutly awsome and at his peak in those 2 sweet years.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
prime vs prime tyson would imo win a convincing UD. but if lennox got cocky tyson would KO him badly
so you're telling me that his prime was when he was 20-21 then that was it? that's convienent that right before he lost, his prime was gone...funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy McClure
age has nothing to do with it. lewis peak late in his carrer and tyson peaked early and if u knew anything u would no that a focused tyson would have never lost to the likes of a buster douglas. there are many factors that come in to play regarding tyson downfall but i couldnt be bothered going into with you. you oviosly know littleQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
and tell me how would foreman out box mike? foreman is a bruiser not a boxerQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
yeah yeah yeah i know all the crap about trainier, wife, management and all the other excuses...when the facts are at any time in tyson's career had he fought a legitamte prime heavy that wasn't afraid being hit they would have beaten him..holyfield would have beaten any version of mike tyson...and even the old version of larry when he got onto his feet and kept tyson on the end of the jab tyson couldn't do shit..younger larry wouldn't have tired...tyson prime 2 years :lolhaha: :LMAO: :lolololol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy McClure
tyson was one of the most overrated boxers in history....he should credit his success to extrordinary promotion by don king...lining up the bums and letting a guy that hits hard knock them out...wow...that was hard...
where talking prime vs prime and tysons prime, his absoloute peak was 1988. and that version off tyson would be a handfull for most. you know little in the fact that you think anyone whos not affraid and can take a punch will automatically kill tyson ::**
and i know u think tyson only ever beat bums ??? ....spinks, thomas, williams, berbick,tubbs,smith,biggs,and holmes were not bums and yeah holmes was 38 but he still had never been koed and was never koed after that but tyson knocked him out cold,something prime holyfield couldnt do to an even older version of holmes. and spinks was a natural light heavy but he would have givin holyfield a run for his money and he ko cooney who was twice his size . so it was a good win for tyson
Tyson was an awesome fighter he only lost 6 times and one was a dq and 2 were a the end against Williams and McBride he lost it mentally with McBride just decided he'd had enough of fighting and his leg vs Williams did not help after douglas he still fought good fighters.He fought Alex stewart who was W26 L1 all 26wins by ko the loss to Holyfield TKO8 Tyson blew him away in 1 then he fought Ruddock twice dropping him in both fights and getting rocked himself.Then he went to prison came out and fought Mathis jnr after mcneeley of course but we interested in him Mathis is 2nd fight after leaving prison was unbeaten in 20 with 2 NC he gave Bowe a nightmare of a fight frustrating him to the point that Bowe hit him while he was on one knee resulting in 1 of the NC's Tyson KO'd him in 3 then he fought Bruno in his 3rd fight in nearly 5 year quite a step up actually won TKO3 and regained WBC title then he fought Seldon won Tko1 then was Holyfield he lost but he was still fighting his 3rd top 10 fighter in a row then came the dq in rematch he was banned and out of the fight game for about 17 month and fought Botha a good fighter and stopped him in 5.Then their was Saverese a good fighter and Holyfields fighting him next he lasted 38 seconds with Tyson then Golota Tyson dropped him in 1st then proceded to beat him in the 2nd Golota refused to come out for the 3rd in just 2 rounds Tyson gave him concusion jaw damage and a slipped disc in his neck or something.Even Nielson were'nt a bad fighter only lost once yet Tyson just used him as a punch bag and he won RTD7 then he lost to Lewis who was still close to his prime Tyson was a shadow of his prime yet stud and had to take a beating like a man for 8 rounds then after that stopped Etienne a fighter who had only lost once and still were'nt bad Tyson stopped him in 1 what im getting at even after Douglas he did'nt slip right down in competition until really Williams and McBride but Mike was done then .He was a good fighter all the way through his career he was'nt a bully it were'nt his fault because of his ko wins and awesome ko power fighters were scared of him he beat some good guys through his career as champ and contender lets not right him off god don't i waffle on HA HA HA ;D
Troy your talking some sense today fella now Tyson ko'd Larry cold now prime for prime Tyson would have still got to him and ko'd him cold 3 times he dropped him in that fourth round Larry could'nt keep him off and had Tyson dropped him in his prime Larry still would'nt have kept him off jab or no jab
;D lol i have my moments ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
im with you on this one bruno.we recognise tysons great skill and ability. when he was with rooney ofcourse. after he left rooney he just became a head hunter with little head movement and combos, he was still good but nothing compared to his feroucious prime ;)
ohh i did CC earlier. sometimes i just randomly cc people throughout the day :D
CC#52 brother ;)
You said this last time and Lewis did not take them seriously he would take Tyson seriously because he was baddest man on the planet at that time Tony Tucker managed to avoid alot of Tysons bombs i don't see why Lewis can't do the same considering he is better than Tucker.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Right i see you mentioned these names about 6 times today im going to tell you little factQuote:
Originally Posted by Troy McClure
Spinks was natural Lightheavy only got title getting 2 gifts off a faded Holmes
Pinklon Thomas had talent but he had just got out of rehab
Carl Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak
Berbick had been koed in 1 round before Tyson got to him and lost every round against Holmes
Tubbs had 2 weeks to prepare and was badly out of shape
Smith lol don't make me laugh he lost to Marvis Frazier
Biggs is like Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak and he never beat an elite fighter just like Williams
Holmes 38 2 weeks to train on losing streak and hadn't fought in nearly 2 years.
Tyson used to throw upto 6 punches at a time in combinations in his prime Lennox would'nt beable to keep him off unlike when he fought Tua who was a plodder and lets have it right was nearly beat by Maskaev.When they did fight Lennox was still roughly in his prime Tyson was only 40% of what he once was Ice i think your a little bitter because Tyson knocked your man Holmes cold
No its nothing to do with that because even before i became Holmes fan i never liked Tyson but facts are Tucker won 4 rounds and managed to avoid alot of Tysons bombs why can't Lewis do the same but even better ??Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
tyson would have been killed by prime lewis just like when..oh i mean when lewis did kill him in memphis...tyson's career should be credited to don king and that's it....Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
4 rounds out of 12 ain't good and Tucker was unbeaten he was a good fighter good enough to do 12 with Lewis years later
4 rounds is quite good and he managed to avoid alot of Tysons bombs Tucker was unbeaten but only name he beat was Douglas who was ahead on points but he quit i believe yes he went 12 with lewis but he was dropped 2 times Lewis on his best would do alot better than Tucker did against Tyson.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! ;D