I say Tyson would have dominated the FIRST UFC

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05-31-2007, 06:33 AM
Hulk

I say Tyson would have dominated the FIRST UFC

I say that if Mike Tyson had entered the very first UFC up to about the 8th or 10th, he would have whipped ass left and right. I do not think either Ken Shamrock, Dan Severen or Royce Gracie could have beaten him, and had he connected solid against any of them, he very well might have literally killed them.
05-31-2007, 06:36 AM
amat

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I don't think you'll find to much argument to that one. I think the only person with a shot was Gracie, but he was to small, I don't think he would get Tyson to the ground either. Tyson would definitely have won imo.
05-31-2007, 07:29 AM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by amat

I don't think you'll find to much argument to that one. I think the only person with a shot was Gracie, but he was to small, I don't think he would get Tyson to the ground either. Tyson would definitely have won imo.

CC or CC in 24 hours. I also would give Bruce Lee a great chance to win the first UFC as well.
05-31-2007, 09:50 AM
Poom

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by amat

I don't think you'll find to much argument to that one. I think the only person with a shot was Gracie, but he was to small, I don't think he would get Tyson to the ground either. Tyson would definitely have won imo.

CC or CC in 24 hours. I also would give Bruce Lee a great chance to win the first UFC as well.

nah.. I really think he would have been too small , but yea you never know :)
05-31-2007, 02:40 PM
ICB

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Unless they could get him on the ground then yes he would win easy.
05-31-2007, 03:23 PM
Howlin Mad Missy

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King Kong? Pacquiao? ??? should be against the law.
05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Unless they could get him on the ground then yes he would win easy.

See I don't think anyone in the first few UFC's was good enuff to get him on the ground. Ken Shamrock was the biggest and strongest one, along with Kimo later on, and neither would have been able to take Tyson down without being pummelled IMO.
05-31-2007, 08:36 PM
lambpie

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didnt i read somewhere that tyson signed for K1??
05-31-2007, 08:45 PM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by lambpie

didnt i read somewhere that tyson signed for K1??

Maybe...he signed with Pride, but nothing came of it. He's too old and shot now to be competitive in either though.
05-31-2007, 08:47 PM
Punisher136

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Originally Posted by lambpie

didnt i read somewhere that tyson signed for K1??

Maybe...he signed with Pride, but nothing came of it. He's too old and shot now to be competitive in either though.

He's too shot to be competitive in ANYTHING anymore. I wouldn't even give him a shot at a pro am golf event.
05-31-2007, 10:15 PM
southakron314

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Time magazine once wrote in 1989 that Mike Tyson's power was the same as putting a phone book at your face and having it struck with a baseball bat by a prop baseball player. i don't know if that was true but I would never would want to find out. I think he would have pretty much Murdered everyone in the first ufc's. Too much power and Speed.
06-01-2007, 01:35 AM
VictorCharlie

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if we are talking about a cross trained Tyson then I'd give him a chance, but as is I'd feel pretty certain that Severn or Shamrock would be able to get the takedown.
06-01-2007, 07:32 AM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

if we are talking about a cross trained Tyson then I'd give him a chance, but as is I'd feel pretty certain that Severn or Shamrock would be able to get the takedown.

I figure both would be too intimidated and Tyson would be too strong for them to get down.
06-01-2007, 03:30 PM
VictorCharlie

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first of all Shamrock was an accomplished Pancrase champ well before the UFC I dont see him or Severn being intimidatd by anybody...secondly I dont think Tyson has any huge strength advantage if any over a seasoned grappler, and lastly takedowns are just as much about technique as strength....My experience is that pound for pound top wrestlers are some of the strongest atheletes I've ever encountered....Male Gymnasts at NCAA and Olympic level are studs as well.
06-01-2007, 08:15 PM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

first of all Shamrock was an accomplished Pancrase champ well before the UFC I dont see him or Severn being intimidatd by anybody...secondly I dont think Tyson has any huge strength advantage if any over a seasoned grappler, and lastly takedowns are just as much about technique as strength....My experience is that pound for pound top wrestlers are some of the strongest atheletes I've ever encountered....Male Gymnasts at NCAA and Olympic level are studs as well.

Right...so you would favor a male gymnast over Mike Tyson? Or do just have a thing for male gymnasts? ;D
For real though, Pancrase is all well and good but they allow NO striking, cept for slapping. Thats really gonna prepare a guy to fight Mike Tyson isn't it? Come on. Tyson would have destroyed anyone the first few UFC's IMO.
06-01-2007, 11:01 PM
VictorCharlie

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You got me Hulk, gymnasts make me hot. ::** I just think you underestimate top wrestlers overall strength and their technique. I mentioned Ken's experience in Pancrase only b/c he was an accomplished fighter and wouldn't be intimidated....Do you really think just boxing prepares someone for a MMA fight? I wouldn't count Mike out in the first UFC but I wouldn't be ready to just hand it to him either.
06-01-2007, 11:19 PM
Hulk

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

You got me Hulk, gymnasts make me hot. ::** I just think you underestimate top wrestlers overall strength and their technique. I mentioned Ken's experience in Pancrase only b/c he was an accomplished fighter and wouldn't be intimidated....Do you really think just boxing prepares someone for a MMA fight? I wouldn't count Mike out in the first UFC but I wouldn't be ready to just hand it to him either.

Thats fair. But I would pick Tyson without hesitation back then.
06-03-2007, 12:19 AM
southakron314

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

You got me Hulk, gymnasts make me hot. ::** I just think you underestimate top wrestlers overall strength and their technique. I mentioned Ken's experience in Pancrase only b/c he was an accomplished fighter and wouldn't be intimidated....Do you really think just boxing prepares someone for a MMA fight? I wouldn't count Mike out in the first UFC but I wouldn't be ready to just hand it to him either.

I used to wrestle in highschool. They are the strongest pound for pound. Gives you one hell of a neck too.
06-03-2007, 10:44 PM
tkdboy

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If you watched the first UFCs Gracie had a crazy shot that could take down just about anybody even Tysons size and once on the ground Royce would have him wrapped up
06-04-2007, 03:35 PM
Munkymagic

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*sigh*

Still think tyson would have been subbed into oblivion in the first UFC by Monsieur Gracie
06-04-2007, 03:44 PM
BIG H

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Originally Posted by Munky

*sigh*

Still think tyson would have been subbed into oblivion in the first UFC by Monsieur Gracie

I am no expert - just an armchair fan - but completely agree with that!!
06-04-2007, 04:17 PM
Munkymagic

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by Munky

*sigh*

Still think tyson would have been subbed into oblivion in the first UFC by Monsieur Gracie

I am no expert - just an armchair fan - but completely agree with that!!

Plus i also know what a big tyson fan you are big fella ;D
06-04-2007, 04:21 PM
BIG H

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Originally Posted by Munky

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by Munky

*sigh*

Still think tyson would have been subbed into oblivion in the first UFC by Monsieur Gracie

I am no expert - just an armchair fan - but completely agree with that!!

Plus i also know what a big tyson fan you are big fella ;D

;D
06-09-2007, 12:32 AM
vegasMMAfan

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I wrestled in high school and boxed in the Army, and I say Severn, Shamrock or Gracie would have beaten Tyson in the first 3 minutes.

Unless they tried to stand up with him, of course.
06-10-2007, 12:14 PM
Nate17

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I actually think that Tyson would have had a really good chance of winning UFC 1. He's stocky and looks like he'd be hard to take down. If you think Tyson hits hard with 12 oz. boxing gloves I'd love to see the damage he'd do with no gloves.

Gracie's hardest win before retiring from the UFC was against Kimo, simply because of his strenth, and the only reason he won is because of all the hair pulling he did. Another what if situation, but damn wouldn't it be fun to watch. :lickish:
06-10-2007, 08:20 PM
southakron314

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Originally Posted by vegasMMAfan

I wrestled in high school and boxed in the Army, and I say Severn, Shamrock or Gracie would have beaten Tyson in the first 3 minutes.

Unless they tried to stand up with him, of course.

How would they shoot in and try to take him down without eating either hand. Just a glancing shot from him could knock a man out cold. A flush one could possibly kill a man.
04-26-2014, 07:19 AM
Max Power

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I agree. Mike Tyson would have completely destroyed any and every opponent in the original UFC's.

He'd probably lay waste to practically all the upstart UFC fighters today barring the top guys we see on TV now who are well versed in takedowns and massively outsize him.
04-26-2014, 07:46 AM
FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by amat

I don't think you'll find to much argument to that one. I think the only person with a shot was Gracie, but he was to small, I don't think he would get Tyson to the ground either. Tyson would definitely have won imo.

CC or CC in 24 hours. I also would give Bruce Lee a great chance to win the first UFC as well.

Lmfao, hulk. You sound like a kid waiting for Santa with cookies and milk.

Lol @ Bruce Li winning the UFC. What are you basing this off of exactly bruh? Enter the Dragon don't count.
04-27-2014, 12:10 PM
Max Power

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by amat

I don't think you'll find to much argument to that one. I think the only person with a shot was Gracie, but he was to small, I don't think he would get Tyson to the ground either. Tyson would definitely have won imo.

CC or CC in 24 hours. I also would give Bruce Lee a great chance to win the first UFC as well.

Lmfao, hulk. You sound like a kid waiting for Santa with cookies and milk.

Lol @ Bruce Li winning the UFC. What are you basing this off of exactly bruh? Enter the Dragon don't count.

Man old Brucie would have gone lights out against a world class pro kickboxer, MMA or boxer no doubt. He'd be hard pressed to beat any world class amateur or serious pro.

I'm talking lb for lb here too!
04-27-2014, 05:18 PM
Beanflicker

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If Royce got a hold of him he would have gotten tapped out just like all the other guys with no grappling experience.
05-18-2014, 04:32 PM
beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

If Royce got a hold of him he would have gotten tapped out just like all the other guys with no grappling experience.

It's an oddball question/statement, I'd never think to ask and I agree with you.
They were like lambs going to slaughter, with no idea what they were getting into.

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