Floyd Sr. Say's RJJ was never exceptional and that oscar really lost to PBF...

That shit about roy is just ridiculous..i think he's jealous that he didn't get to train a freakshow like roy...

and there he goes again promoting himself..the only oscar-pbf rematch out does the first is if he's involved...damn he wants the spotlight..he should just get chad ready and ride him to the top maybe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=11137&more=1

i rate roach much more than him

What a dweeb...when you buy into your own crap, it's really a shame.

What did he say that was out of line... ??? I havent heard a trainer yet that hasnt made himself out to be better than the next guy. Not to mention he was very respectful about his opinion unlike Roger Mayweather who was just a friggin prick >:mad

And he totally told the truth about Roy Jones, he was always more athletic than fundamentally skilled, why do you think he dropped off so dramatically..

when you watch a clip of roy jones and then of mayweather. and then tell me roy was not exceptional fighter.
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roy jones and see the things he did in the ring he brought the matrix in to the ring never have i ever saw some one do that like roy.

Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

mayweather would never beat roy jones on a pound for pound match.

That picture of Floyd sr. in the article... holy crap, he is E.T.! :o

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what does that have to do with this conversation? not to mention he outweighs floyd by about 30-40lbs

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

well his father says that mayweather is better. i am saying pound for pound both at the same weight roy wins

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CC. Anybody saying Roy Jones was a exceptional boxer is an idiot. RJJ was fucking amazing, but a lot of that was based of pure, god-given, freakish athleticism. He was kind of like the Michael Vick of boxing in his prime. He was exciting and amazing but not techincally sound at all.

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CC. Anybody saying Roy Jones was a exceptional boxer is an idiot. RJJ was F****** amazing, but a lot of that was based of pure, god-given, freakish athleticism. He was kind of like the Michael Vick of boxing in his prime. He was exciting and amazing but not techincally sound at all.

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If your implying that im an idiot because of what i said actually read what i said did i say he was technically sound or was exceptional meaning technically ?? no he had some good skills with his jab and amongst other things that he done bloody good otherwise he wouldn't of got where he was without some skills and no of course he wasn't technically sound like a Mayweather or ect but he still was exceptional fighter meaning his athleticism his speed and basically having every single strong stat power speed reflexes ect.

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CC. Anybody saying Roy Jones was a exceptional boxer is an idiot. RJJ was fucking amazing, but a lot of that was based of pure, god-given, freakish athleticism. He was kind of like the Michael Vick of boxing in his prime. He was exciting and amazing but not techincally sound at all.

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no roy wasn't fundamentally sound...but that doesn't mean he wasn't exceptional...the fact that roy didn't use the traditional techs of boxing it what made him exceptional...example by definition everyone else had to use the jab to set up other punches, roy led with hooks sometimes with uppecuts he by definition was the exception...

"he doesn't need a jab" - george foreman

"never before have i ever heard you say about a fighter , he doesn't need a jab" - jim lampley

"and you'll never hear me say it again" - george foreman

if that's not exceptional i don't know what is....not to mention we'll see another PBF before we see another roy jones jr...

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Your talking about a fight with Johnson when he was way past it in his prime he knew how to deal with pressure fighters check out my thread i done yesterday and again read my other comment what i said after and your get the picture of what im trying to say you don't have to be skilled technictian or ect to be exceptional which Roy Jones was hell Whitaker had good skills but he wasn't exactly like every other boxer infact i've never seen a boxer like Whitaker in my life does that make him any less exceptional ?? no it doesn't and the same goes for Roy Jones.

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Your talking about a fight with Johnson when he was way past it in his prime he knew how to deal with pressure fighters check out my thread i done yesterday and again read my other comment what i said after and your get the picture of what im trying to say you don't have to be skilled technictian or ect to be exceptional which Roy Jones was hell Whitaker had good skills but he wasn't exactly like every other boxer infact i've never seen a guy like Whitaker in my life does that make him any less exceptional ?? no it doesn't and the same goes for Roy Jones.

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I saw your thread and you just validated my points exactly once Roy slipped an inch, it was over!!!!!! Hopkins, Wright, Toney, Delahoya, MAB would not get embarrased like Roy has

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Your talking about a fight with Johnson when he was way past it in his prime he knew how to deal with pressure fighters check out my thread i done yesterday and again read my other comment what i said after and your get the picture of what im trying to say you don't have to be skilled technictian or ect to be exceptional which Roy Jones was hell Whitaker had good skills but he wasn't exactly like every other boxer infact i've never seen a guy like Whitaker in my life does that make him any less exceptional ?? no it doesn't and the same goes for Roy Jones.

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I saw your thread and you just validated my points exactly once Roy slipped an inch, it was over!!!!!! Hopkins, Wright, Toney, Delahoya, MAB would not get embarrased like Roy has

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roy's demise was due to his own success. he got used to being able to stand and hit fighters and not expect the punch to come back..and he got caught by the perfect punch by tarver and became gunshy after that...roy's reflexes are not prime but they're still good enough to beat anybody out there as long as he's not afraid to let his hands go...

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Your talking about a fight with Johnson when he was way past it in his prime he knew how to deal with pressure fighters check out my thread i done yesterday and again read my other comment what i said after and your get the picture of what im trying to say you don't have to be skilled technictian or ect to be exceptional which Roy Jones was hell Whitaker had good skills but he wasn't exactly like every other boxer infact i've never seen a guy like Whitaker in my life does that make him any less exceptional ?? no it doesn't and the same goes for Roy Jones.

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I saw your thread and you just validated my points exactly once Roy slipped an inch, it was over!!!!!! Hopkins, Wright, Toney, Delahoya, MAB would not get embarrased like Roy has

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Sorry JT but this makes me laugh Tyson in his early 20s when he faced Ruddock was considered way past it even though i didn't see much difference but when Jones moved all the way down in weight and it was so obvisious that he wasn't same fighter he is only considered *slighty past it* or just *slipped an inch* in his prime he would of embarrassed both Johnson and Tarver and you know it and actually your saying Jones wasn't well rounded or didn't have good technical skills like Mayweather well that proves my point how good he is he didn't have what most boxers have like good technical skills or ect yet he dominated Toney and Hopkins and is considered the best ever at 168 and 175 and would beat anyone at those weights in many peoples eyes.

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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He was very unorthdox fighter but he still had some very good skills he had goob jab when he used and amongst other things yes he didn't do what normal fighters do but that doesn't take away what a great fighter he was and Floyd Sr is talking out his a**.

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He was talking about fundamental skill.... This Mysery jab Roy used once in a Blue Moon is hardly a measureing stick for fundamental skill, Roy was fast enough not to need a jab to set up his power punches and thats a well known fact..

Roy is proving how shoddy his fundamentals are at the moment, he got sparked by Johnson, looked like less than an amatuer against Tarver in the 3rd bout and he beat some guy in boise that no one ever heard of

No superior reflexes = less than ordinary for Jones

Take a fundamentally sound boxer with deteriorating reflexes and he can still be competitve since he has a great foundation of skill... Roy's reflexes slipped a tiny bit and it cost him his career as we know it

Roy was great but it wasnt because he was a skilled technictian... Thats the part I agree with Floyd sr

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Your talking about a fight with Johnson when he was way past it in his prime he knew how to deal with pressure fighters check out my thread i done yesterday and again read my other comment what i said after and your get the picture of what im trying to say you don't have to be skilled technictian or ect to be exceptional which Roy Jones was hell Whitaker had good skills but he wasn't exactly like every other boxer infact i've never seen a guy like Whitaker in my life does that make him any less exceptional ?? no it doesn't and the same goes for Roy Jones.

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I saw your thread and you just validated my points exactly once Roy slipped an inch, it was over!!!!!! Hopkins, Wright, Toney, Delahoya, MAB would not get embarrased like Roy has

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Sorry JT but this makes me laugh Tyson in his early 20s when he faced Ruddock was considered way past it even though i didn't see much difference but when Jones moved all the way down in weight and it was so obvisious that he wasn't same fighter he is only considered *slighty past it* or just *slipped an inch* in his prime he would of embarrassed both Johnson and Tarver and you know it and actually your saying Jones wasn't well rounded or didn't have good technical skills like Mayweather well that proves my point how good he is he didn't have what most boxers have like good technical skills or ect yet he dominated Toney and Hopkins and is considered the best ever at 168 and 175 and would beat anyone at that weight in many peoples eyes.

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DING DING DING!!!! YOU THINK that was point if he had good fundamentals then he would still be a great fighter today like the above referenced ones..

What im saying is JT is that you said yourself he hasn't got the technical skills of Mayweather or other things normal boxers have yet look how good he is without these things thats im saying he is so gifted that he is too good for his own good and doesn't need these things that most boxers have thats what i call raw talent like Michael Johnson who has one of the weirdest running styles ever yet he still used to be miles ahead of his competition and thats exactly the same with Roy.

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What im saying is JT is that you said yourself he hasn't got the technical skills of Mayweather or other things normal boxers have yet look how good he is without these things thats im saying he is so gifted that he is too good for his own good and doesn't need these things that most boxers have thats what i call raw talent like Michael Johnson who has one of the weirdest running styles ever yet he still used to be miles ahead of his competition and thats exactly the same with Roy.

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you know i compared mike to roy in the way they both took their respective sports and where bounds ahead of it...also like bob beamon who took the long record from 27 feet to 29 feet..bypassing 28 feet altogether...mike took the 200m record from 19.72 to 19.32...and roy was this far ahead of the boxing game and to say that he wasn't exceptional is ridiculous...

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:coolclick: Totally agree.

While I have always been a RJJ fan...I personally feel that Floyd is the more dynamic of the two as far as game goes.

Sure Jones has more power & is also the more atheletic of the two...but Floyd is the more sound boxer.

Also...Floyd's video was much more impressive that Roy's Pot Shot Pose Down.

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:coolclick: Totally agree.

While I have always been a RJJ fan...I personally feel that Floyd is the more dynamic of the two as far as game goes.

Sure Jones has more power & is also the more atheletic of the two...but Floyd is the more sound boxer.

Also...Floyd's video was much more impressive that Roy's Pot Shot Pose Down.

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roy jones as far as technical boxing goes was probably one of the worst...but that by definition is why he's "exceptional"... because he dominated for so long this makes him exceptional to all the fundamentals of boxing in every aspect...

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:coolclick: Totally agree.

While I have always been a RJJ fan...I personally feel that Floyd is the more dynamic of the two as far as game goes.

Sure Jones has more power & is also the more atheletic of the two...but Floyd is the more sound boxer.

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when you watch a clip of roy jones and then of mayweather. and then tell me roy was not exceptional fighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK9klSiYLUg

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I dont know dude, both clips look equally impressive in their own right

The only thing i agree with is that oscar would have done better with floyd sr in his corner.....but at this point i don't think that matters if the re-match happens reguardless of the trainer i think oscar looses....

guys be nice to floyd senior or he'll open up his self destructing time bomb on his wrist and kill us all :-X

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That S*** about roy is just ridiculous..i think he's jealous that he didn't get to train a freakshow like roy...

and there he goes again promoting himself..the only oscar-pbf rematch out does the first is if he's involved...damn he wants the spotlight..he should just get chad ready and ride him to the top maybe.

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Aside from Floyd, all the other Mayweathers are big talkers who were not good fighters. And Floyd being in the class with Ali and Leonard is ridiculous. I hate to say it but Roy in my mind was better than Floyd. Floyd has great skills and a great fighter, but Roy had the skills and power. The whole package.

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That S*** about roy is just ridiculous..i think he's jealous that he didn't get to train a freakshow like roy...

and there he goes again promoting himself..the only oscar-pbf rematch out does the first is if he's involved...damn he wants the spotlight..he should just get chad ready and ride him to the top maybe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=11137&more=1

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I would hate for that guy to be my father ::**

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That S*** about roy is just ridiculous..i think he's jealous that he didn't get to train a freakshow like roy...

and there he goes again promoting himself..the only oscar-pbf rematch out does the first is if he's involved...damn he wants the spotlight..he should just get chad ready and ride him to the top maybe.

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Since when does anyone give a shit wot that complete dickhead says, look at the guys hair yes hes a total fruit :)

Skills come in many ways, Jones had great skills to go with his pscyhcodinamics of the time. He was to me a joy to watch, He set the other guy problems they coulnt solve thats the bottom line.

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I disagree with you here JT. Sure he doesn't have the fundamentals like Hopkins but sheer athleticism alone doesn't win fights.

If that were true you could give any gymnast a few weeks training and they would be world beaters.

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I disagree with you here JT. Sure he doesn't have the fundamentals like Hopkins but sheer athleticism alone doesn't win fights.

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Some people are just jealous of how good people are love him or hate him Roy Jones Jr was exceptional and very talented and if anybody says different then they don't know about boxing imo or there just plain jealous.

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You can't tell me with a straight face that Roy Jones is a Fundamentally sound fighter with exceptional BOXING skill.

Roy was EXTREMELY athletic, fast and strong, thats how he won fights he was always the superior human being in that ring...

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I disagree with you here JT. Sure he doesn't have the fundamentals like Hopkins but sheer athleticism alone doesn't win fights.

If that were true you could give any gymnast a few weeks training and they would be world beaters.

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OKAY THEN.... Well I'd love to see the guy doing the wooden horse, punch like a mule, have blazing speed and be able to avoid punches with cat like reflexes... :P Sorry Bud, Roy was a fundamental mess... If he wasnt then he would still be a great champion and successful today but because he slipped in his reflexes and natural atributes he dosent have the fundamentals and skill to compensate for those losses ;)

i think everyone that's saying roy was not exceptional because he didn't have world class fundamentals is missing the point...

floyd sr said roy wasn't exceptional.

and that's ridiculous..because roy was extremely exceptional...if a trainer were training a young fighter that was trying to lead with left hooks and constantly leave his feet the way roy did, the trainer would stop it immediately...and young fighter would say "well roy jones used to do it"
and trainer would reply "well he's the exception, and you're not him"

EXCEPTIONAL......

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

i think everyone that's saying roy was not exceptional because he didn't have world class fundamentals is missing the point...

floyd sr said roy wasn't exceptional.

and that's ridiculous..because roy was extremely exceptional...if a trainer were training a young fighter that was trying to lead with left hooks and constantly leave his feet the way roy did, the trainer would stop it immediately...and young fighter would say "well roy jones used to do it"
and trainer would reply "well he's the exception, and you're not him"

EXCEPTIONAL......

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Well said and agreed i think people are missing the point.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

i think everyone that's saying roy was not exceptional because he didn't have world class fundamentals is missing the point...

floyd sr said roy wasn't exceptional.

and that's ridiculous..because roy was extremely exceptional...if a trainer were training a young fighter that was trying to lead with left hooks and constantly leave his feet the way roy did, the trainer would stop it immediately...and young fighter would say "well roy jones used to do it"
and trainer would reply "well he's the exception, and you're not him"

EXCEPTIONAL......

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Well said and agreed i think people are missing the point.

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How so? Thats my point Roy would be even great today if he had half the fundamental skill... You guys get your panties all in a bunch, thinking people are taking anything away from Roy... I sure is hell aint the man was subperb and a phenom.. But let the truth be told he has horrible fundamentals and that was his demise and fall from grace