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CALZAGHE FANS DON'T BE MAKING EXCUSES IF KESSLER BEATS HIM
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
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trust me dude if CALZAGHE loses all people will say is he past it and kessler in his prime i bet you money that will be the case if they ever match and kessler wins even though is kessler a good fighter.
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
I won't make any excuses...unless Calzaghe hurts his hands, or I feel Kessler has cheated, or the judges were corrupt, or that he had home crowd advantage because it would be in Denmark, or that the referee stepped in too early. (lol, just in case)
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
I won't make any excuses...unless Calzaghe hurts his hands, or I feel Kessler has cheated, or the judges were corrupt, or that he had home crowd advantage because it would be in Denmark, or that the referee stepped in too early. (lol, just in case)
Lol
Yeh agreed - I personally can't see how Calzaghe's hands can hold up to another 12 round battlelike he will face with Kessler. But if they do I can't see him losing.
If Kessler wins fair and square, I will make no excuses and give him his props.
TYSONBRUNO you re going the same way as Northside after the Lacy fight, you aint gonna be able to show your face ;D
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
Dont worry mate he wont get beat so it you got nothing to worry about. ;D
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80% of the Calzaghe fans are just on the bandwagon anyway, they'll jump onto the Kessler one quick enough. Calzaghe couldn't really sell tickets (even in Wales) until he faught Lacy (In Manchester ;) ) so if he does lose you won't get excuses, you'll get people saying he was just over rated, which will piss me off big time because both fighters belong in the top pool in 160-175, and would have at least a level chance at beating other guys around their weight (Winky, B-hop, Taylor, RJJ, Tarver, Johnson etc etc )
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cant wait till Joe wins this (if it ever happens) because so many people were saying he was bottling it, now that hes shown he will fight Kessler, he's gona prove that he's the best fighter there's been at SMW.
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...wow excuses already ??!!! Hurt hands (in boxing no less) cheating judges.....isn't it a little early for all this...did i catch someone already saying he'll be drugged under thier breath !! C'mon calzaghe-ites back your boy don't already be talking about the reasons he lost, cause you know if he wins it'll be the opposite, both are very good fighters and although i'm not exactly a fan of either i like them both and know this will be a great fight !!
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...wow excuses already ??!!! Hurt hands (in boxing no less) cheating judges.....isn't it a little early for all this...did i catch someone already saying he'll be drugged under thier breath !! C'mon calzaghe-ites back your boy don't already be talking about the reasons he lost, cause you know if he wins it'll be the opposite, both are very good fighters and although i'm not exactly a fan of either i like them both and know this will be a great fight !!
Breaking your hand aint an excuse - you can't win a competetive fight without breaking your hands.
He won't 'lose' He may get retired ;)
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I understand where you're comin from...but in boxing where your hands are the only thing used..if they are that bad he shouldn't fight..and sure shouldn't have that hanging around as something to use as reason why he looses IF he ever does.....i just don't want to see kessler win and have any credit taken from him by people popping up with his hands were hurt, he was drugged, the water wasn't the right tempature etc.....i actually don't think the calzagehe fans have too much to be worried about anyways joe knows how to win bad hands and all......
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No excuses from me...we all know the risk of a hand injury. Its par for the course with Calzaghe at this stage.
Ive never been one for excuses....
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Yes he suffers with his hands but is'nt it how you addapt as a champion if this situation happens plus am i right in thinking once a broken hand numbs up you can throw it hard again.
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Yes he suffers with his hands but is'nt it how you addapt as a champion if this situation happens plus am i right in thinking once a broken hand numbs up you can throw it hard again.
I agree with you, I was saying that bust up hands will not be an excuse from me. Calzaghe has won with damaged hands before and he may need to again. He knows the score with the hands...
A plan B should always in order, and to be fair Calzaghe can always adopt a plan B.
Still no news on the finalisation of this fight though.... :-\
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CC#1035 always respect your comments Miles ;)
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CC#1035 always respect your comments Miles ;)
CC right back ;)
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he had to win a few times with broken hands and from what i can see it just stops hm going for a KO punch, he's still got speed and accuracy, just less power, broken hands will not stop him winning...
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
How can you expect anyone who has followed calzaghs in depth to not make an 'excuse' if he he losses in a close fight?
For someone to say he is washed up would be to far... but there are a few facts people will point and out and others need to understand.. it has been saidfor some time that his power is nothing compared to what it was and that is a massive thing to losse, his lack of sparring has resluted in IMO his timing not being as good as it could be as well... he will be pushing 36 by the time of his fight, and yet its ironic that you have said countless times about people calzaghe beat veing washed up when they were in the very very early 30's lol...
Joe isn't washed up that is true, and if kessler beats him its a damn good feat IMO but no way in hell is calzaghe the same fighter he was... he is right at the end of his career whislt kessler is bang on in his prime...
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Preme don't start with excuses before they fight ;D
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so hand on heart you think calzaghe is every bit as good now as he was in what other would consider his absolute prime? when he has great power, was sparring well, didn't break or hurt his handin 4 our of 5 fights?
and i have said this in other posts about other things long before this shit with kessler
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Calzaghe is as good now as he was yes he has'nt really had any wars
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
How can you expect anyone who has followed calzaghs in depth to not make an 'excuse' if he he losses in a close fight?
For someone to say he is washed up would be to far... but there are a few facts people will point and out and others need to understand.. it has been saidfor some time that his power is nothing compared to what it was and that is a massive thing to losse, his lack of sparring has resluted in IMO his timing not being as good as it could be as well... he will be pushing 36 by the time of his fight, and yet its ironic that you have said countless times about people calzaghe beat veing washed up when they were in the very very early 30's lol...
Joe isn't washed up that is true, and if kessler beats him its a damn good feat IMO but no way in hell is calzaghe the same fighter he was... he is right at the end of his career whislt kessler is bang on in his prime...
Im surprised by this posting. ::**
I disagree to the furthest extreme. Calzaghe BEATS kessler....Calzaghe knows the hand may bust but a great fighter will adapt and finsh the fight...
If he doesnt think he can do it then a fight should not be signed and he should retire...
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Calzaghe is in no way stuill in his prime, that isn't even debatable IMO. He may not be punch drunk, he may still be able to take the hit he could in his prime..
but he has lost easily 50% of his power and that is MASSIVE hundreds and hundred sof rounds of sparring due to hand injuries and trying to pererve them...
So basicaly if kessler wins a close fight by one round - he ranks higher than calzaghe in the all time SMw list? does he fuck!
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Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
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Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
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Ok then Preme whatever mate your just a gobshite and the thing that did the lapdance for you was probably a lady boy ;) ;D
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Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
Dude you took what sounded like a joke comment way too personally imo. :sadclick: #84. The board aint about stupid insults.
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im no calzaghe fan but dont think kessler will beat him.
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Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
Dude you took what sounded like a joke comment way too personally imo. :sadclick: #84. The board aint about stupid insults.
Ignore him Bzkfn he's just mardy he's Calzaghe crazy you can't say anything negative about Calzaghe to him or he goes off like this he needs councelling ;D