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Eubank on an RJJ fight
"Yeah, Roy Jones was very, very good and that's a frightening fight. That guy had all the shots and some great moves - aggressive, let his hands go.
"If there was a token to victory for me, it might have been bodyshots. He liked to jump around a lot in the ring and my most underrated arsenal was bodypunching.
"If he wasn't prepared to breakthrough pain barriers then I'd have beaten him.
"If he was prepared to breakthrough pain barries then it may have come down to absorbance, and I had a PhD in absorbance. But then again, he could hit a head harder than the vast majority outside of Nigel Benn and he could avoid a glove better than the vast majority outside of Herol Graham.
"He could also punch faster in combination than anyone else, punch faster off his feet than anyone else and punch for longer than the vast majority. With my integrity and grit, it could only be a bruising encounter on both sides.
"But if he fought the right fight then - providing he was prepared to break through pain barriers - it would probably be a fight I just could not win.
"If he tried crowding me early doors though, it may have evolved into a cat and mouse game of strategy and that was where I was King.
"But yeah, that Jones definitely had the tools to beat me once we got into the swing of things."
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
where's the original article?
besides this just sounds like an honest assessment of a fight between them and i'd like to know what fight was eubank speaking about...
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
Eubank was always cocky but also brutally honest
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Harry Mullan asked him in 1993 about Jones and he said "I fight to win, and so that's why I won't fight Jones. He can beat me."
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Jones would beat Eubank easily he would win 12 rounds to 0 i would think.
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jones would beat Eubank easily
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Jones would beat Eubank easily
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA
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If that was from eubanks mouth, he said Jones works constantly, he doesnt, he waits for you to move, rather like Eubank. Chris would eventualy have to channce his luck in this fight and there is no one that Jones faced that had Eubanks resiliance, not just his ability to take and ride shots but the fight in him, he was fiercly proud, if the Watson fight had only ended as a ko and not as it did, that would have made Eubank an even better fighter instead of the more passive version we saw later on.
How many fights could have ended early in Eubanks career ?
The first Collins fight, he was out ! Only for Chris to completely stand off, the first Thompson fight, I lost count how many times Chris could have nailed Carl to the canvas
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jones would beat Eubank easily
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA
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EUBANK? Beat him easily??
I don't know what to say
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jones would beat Eubank easily
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA
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EUBANK? Beat him easily??
I don't know what to say
Yes Jones would beat Eubank easily and ??
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
I don't know if I agree with "easily", but I do believe Jones would win a clear cut and dominant decision. But I do think Eubank was a great fighter with a tremendous heart, and would pose problems for anyone.
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I don't know if I agree with "easily", but I do believe Jones would win a clear cut and dominant decision. But I do think Eubank was a great fighter with a tremendous heart, and would pose problems for anyone.
Well thats what i meant clear cut it wouldn't be competitive or close.
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Sorry dude but your in fucking dreamland!
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Jones himself said Eubank was the only fighter who would cause him real problems and the only fighter who could give him a challenge
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Sorry dude but your in F****** dreamland!
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Jones himself said Eubank was the only fighter who would cause him real problems and the only fighter who could give him a challenge
Uhh no im not Eubank had close decisions against Ray Close and Sugar Boy Malinga Roy koed his ass in 6 Roy would easily beat Eubank end of Eubank even said he would lose so there you have it.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Nium
Sorry dude but your in F****** dreamland!
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Jones himself said Eubank was the only fighter who would cause him real problems and the only fighter who could give him a challenge
Uhh no im not Eubank had close decisions against Ray Close and Sugar Boy Malinga Roy koed his a** in 6 Roy would easily beat Eubank end of Eubank even said he would lose so there you have it.
He lost both fights against Close and looked shit, and yeah Jones would beat that Eubank fairly easily (esp the one at King's Hall who could barely move). But Roy Jones wasn't a natural pressure fighter
Eubank's effort against Malinga was very, very low - Malinga caused him no problems. Infact he caused Jones more problems, Jones had to resort to feints
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Nium
Sorry dude but your in F****** dreamland!
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Jones himself said Eubank was the only fighter who would cause him real problems and the only fighter who could give him a challenge
Uhh no im not Eubank had close decisions against Ray Close and Sugar Boy Malinga Roy koed his a** in 6 Roy would easily beat Eubank end of Eubank even said he would lose so there you have it.
He lost both fights against Close and looked S***, and yeah Jones would beat that Eubank fairly easily (esp the one at King's Hall who could barely move). But Roy Jones wasn't a natural pressure fighter
Eubank's effort against Malinga was very, very low - Malinga caused him no problems. Infact he caused Jones more problems, Jones had to resort to feints
Jones koed his ass in 6 no problems at all Jones is gifted great talent possibly fastest hands ever p4p and has great power he is too good for Eubank im sorry.
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IMO this fight would be closer than most of you are making out. Yes RJJ was a great fighter (notice the was) but Eubank was pretty damn good himself! I'd go for a Jones win on points (80%) with a small chance that Eubank would manage to pull off an upset if he somehow managed to test Jones not so rock solid chin.
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Originally Posted by danchar123
IMO this fight would be closer than most of you are making out. Yes RJJ was a great fighter (notice the was) but Eubank was pretty damn good himself! I'd go for a Jones win on points (80%) with a small chance that Eubank would manage to pull off an upset if he somehow managed to test Jones not so rock solid chin.
this isn't hindsight were're talking about...roy back then took solid punches on the chin and he'd be fighting at 168 not 175..tarver walks around around 200 and caught roy with the perfect punch...roy moved alot back then and would have stood there and waited on the punch..prime roy jones easily beats eubank,collin,benn, darius, all the europenas that were fighting back then he'd stop every last one of them.... chris is the only one that might make it to a lopsided decision.....
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Eubank would make Jones look stupid for a few rounds, but Jones would just out-work him and out-hussle him
I remember in 93 Jones said "I know the way to beat Eubank", and I often wonder what it was
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Eubank would make Jones look stupid for a few rounds, but Jones would just out-work him and out-hussle him
How? I can't think of one fighter in the history of boxing who would be able to make Jones look stupid (without knocking him out). Eubank was real good but how is he going to go about making Jones look stupid??
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Eubank would make Jones look stupid for a few rounds, but Jones would just out-work him and out-hussle him
How? I can't think of one fighter in the history of boxing who would be able to make Jones look stupid (without knocking him out). Eubank was real good but how is he going to go about making Jones look stupid??
Oh come on, this is Chris Eubank we're talking about! Probably the most unorthodox boxer ever.
Eubank made all his opponents look stupid.
Jones was very much a pouncing fighter, Eubank would keep moving out of range and Jones would really struggle to get to grips with him early doors
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Eubank would make Jones look stupid for a few rounds, but Jones would just out-work him and out-hussle him
How? I can't think of one fighter in the history of boxing who would be able to make Jones look stupid (without knocking him out). Eubank was real good but how is he going to go about making Jones look stupid??
Oh come on, this is Chris Eubank we're talking about! Probably the most unorthodox boxer ever.
Eubank made all his opponents look stupid.
Jones was very much a pouncing fighter, Eubank would keep moving out of range and Jones would really struggle to get to grips with him early doors
I guess me and you have different definitions on what making someone stupid really is. Eubank was unorthodox but I see nothing in his style that would be capable of making Jones look stupid. I don't see how he could out manuever Jones and keep him out of range, if Roy wanted to be in range he would be there.
You must be British...
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Originally Posted by Nium
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Eubank would make Jones look stupid for a few rounds, but Jones would just out-work him and out-hussle him
How? I can't think of one fighter in the history of boxing who would be able to make Jones look stupid (without knocking him out). Eubank was real good but how is he going to go about making Jones look stupid??
Oh come on, this is Chris Eubank we're talking about! Probably the most unorthodox boxer ever.
Eubank made all his opponents look stupid.
Jones was very much a pouncing fighter, Eubank would keep moving out of range and Jones would really struggle to get to grips with him early doors
I guess me and you have different definitions on what making someone stupid really is. Eubank was unorthodox but I see nothing in his style that would be capable of making Jones look stupid. I don't see how he could out manuever Jones and keep him out of range, if Roy wanted to be in range he would be there.
You must be British...
Must be...Roy was one of quickest fighters in history..and to think Eubank would be quick enough to move out of range is absurd..eubank would lose a lopsided decision and that's me being nice because i like eubank..when truthfully he'd get stopped by the SMW version of roy jones...
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Sorry guys but we have to agree to disagree and Jones does too!
Eubank always made opponents fall short the sway out of distance, he had those high hips that allowed him to do it. Also, his ring generalship was the best I've seen. He'd make Jones look bad for a few rounds, there's no question about that. Jones doesn't have the right style.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jones would beat Eubank easily he would win 12 rounds to 0 i would think.
Jones may very well beat Eubank. But by that margin?!
Absolute bollocks. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but really. :-\
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Jones would beat Eubank easily he would win 12 rounds to 0 i would think.
Jones may very well beat Eubank. But by that margin?!
Absolute bollocks. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but really. :-\
Well does it matter 10-2 or 12-0 it would be easy decision.
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Re: Eubank on an RJJ fight
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Originally Posted by miles
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Jones would beat Eubank easily he would win 12 rounds to 0 i would think.
Jones may very well beat Eubank. But by that margin?!
Absolute bollocks. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but really. :-\
Well does it matter 10-2 or 12-0 it would be easy decision.
Jones would probably win, but to say it would be a Calzaghe: Lacy style fight was too much. Eubank was extremely unorthodox and who is to say how that style would really have played against Jones. Eubank prior to Watson 2 was also a dangerous puncher when up against it too...
I would suggest that prime against prime Eubank loses by UD but in an edgy contest where Jones is made to have a tough night and eat some glove.
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I gotta agree with Miles and the rest.
Eubank was a extremely dangerous customer
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Just dug this old thread out. I'm quite shocked at how much of a chance people think Eubank would have had against a Prime RJJ. Roy was a monster at 168 and for me could well have been p4p the greatest ever there. He totally schooled Toney at that weight and Toney for me would have comfortably beat Eubank too.
I've always been a huge Eubank fan but to think he causes Jones any REAL trouble for me is a bit far fetched. I respect that everyone is entitled their own opinion though and I respect that Eubank was an elite fighter so I suppose he is entitled to his defence on here.
Looking at what happened with a common opponent in Malinga though, you have to say Jones did a much, much better job.
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I gotta admit that I am suprised at the chances people are giving Eubank. I agree that Chris was an unorthodox fighter who would've gave Roy problems but only for the first couple of rounds. After that I see Jones winning an easy decision(something like 9-3) or possibly getting Eubank out of there. A lot of people don't wanna admit it because he was a cocky mofo who got on my nerves at times but prime Roy was just too much God given talent. Reflexes, hand speed, etc........
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Eubanks could dig deep as he did with Benn and Watson but Roy would not be there to be hit. He would beat Chris handily.
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Eubanks could dig deep as he did with Benn and Watson but Roy would not be there to be hit. He would beat Chris handily.
Nah, Roy wasnt defensively that good. Ever! His defence has always consisted of putting the earmuffs on and leaning on the ropes. Like he did with Bryant Brannon at super middle for the first round. That was in 96 and the first minute is an exact replica of how he now fights every fight. He has now slowed down so opponents dont fear him and just wail away hoping to Ko him. Nigel Ben wouldnt have relented, he was a much bigger puncher than Brannon and was much harder to catch because of his bobbing and weaving. It would have been a good fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uus5wDjGV6Y
He was fast and threw good combinations and that really was what his style was based on. He intimidated opponents who didnt really open up for fear of being caught.
Now, think about this. Which 2 super middleweights of the Ninties really didnt mind getting in hard fights and coming back from the bring to win spectacularly;)
You may say that Benn and Eubank never fought anyone as athletic as Jones but again, did Roy every fight anyone as aggressive and powerfull as Benn or as hard and determined as Eubank?
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Roy's defense wasn't good? Watch all his fights from 89 to the John Ruiz fight and you tell me how many good, hard FLUSH shots he took to the chin.
Jones, like any great, only went to the ropes when he felt it was advantageous to him. He would often INVITE guys to come in and fire at him when he was on the ropes. And he would ALWAYS get the better of the exchanges with his lightning fast hands and power.
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Beanflicker
Roy's defense wasn't good? Watch all his fights from 89 to the John Ruiz fight and you tell me how many good, hard FLUSH shots he took to the chin.
Jones, like any great, only went to the ropes when he felt it was advantageous to him. He would often INVITE guys to come in and fire at him when he was on the ropes. And he would ALWAYS get the better of the exchanges with his lightning fast hands and power.
Yeah, I reckon his defence was shite to be honest. His offence was awesome though. His opponents were to busy thinking of that to just let their hands go. He used the ropes more and more as the years went by but the competition never really went up. Glen Kelly is a good example. He was a nothing really and Jones knocked him out, from the ropes. Even Woods, most of Jones fight was off the ropes. His hands still had the speed to get away with it. Its only when he juiced;D to get up to fight Ruiz and had to come back off, that Tarver pushed him to fight. Again off the ropes then when Tarver had absolutely no respect for him did he just walk right through him in the rematch
